Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). Read warning in 1st post

Ush1 · 21-04-2016 04:48PM

VisibleGorilla wrote: »

He is the one who demanded this rematch, no one else wanted this fight and now he is moaning about promoting it?

He can dish out but cannot take it. He'd have to sit there in Stockton, California and take it all and he is simply not strong enough for that.

Broken man.

Weird that he went to Brazil before the Aldo fight, known to be MUCH more hostile.

Effects · 21-04-2016 04:53PM

VisibleGorilla wrote: »

He is the one who demanded this rematch, no one else wanted this fight and now he is moaning about promoting it?

He can dish out but cannot take it. He'd have to sit there in Stockton, California and take it all and he is simply not strong enough for that.

Broken man.

He wants to do it on his terms, even if those terms are different this time. Nothing new about Conor doing that.

21-04-2016 04:53PM

seems like what he's not saying is that he doesn't want to do promos (excepting the NY one) when they would involve facing a guy (Diaz) who has already beaten him (with an embarrassing tap-out finish that's very fresh in the mind) where the back-chat trash-talk possibilities are limited. he had no problem doing it before.

Depp · 21-04-2016 04:57PM

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh/status/723178335350730752

dont get the hate atal, kavanagh is hilarious!

mel123 · 21-04-2016 04:57PM

super_furry wrote: »

There’s no way that McGregor doesn’t fight at UFC 200. He’s their golden boy, the man who will fight anyone at a moment’s notice and has made, as he claims $400million for the UFC over the last year. There’s no way Dana will jeopardize his cash machine.

Make no mistake, Dana wants and needs McGregor to beat Diaz at UFC200 and will do what he can to ensure that happens. So when McGregor wants to stay in camp rather than doing a press tour, he’ll get it, only Dana can’t make is seem obvious and can’t make it look like he’s giving his golden boy special treatment.

So what do they do? They come up with a story that ensures that there’s more coverage for UFC200 than any kind of press tour or TV advert could create. They point to McGregor retiring, they send out that tweet and they get the kind of prime-time coverage that money just can’t buy. It's not just the sports channels talking about UFC200 now, it's everywhere.

McGregor flying in to film a TV sport would never generate the kind of press that McGregor at war with Dana will.

McGregor v Diaz is a big story and it'll sell but nowhere near as big as McGregor v Dana.

Thats exactly what i meant, only you said it better

:D:D

Effects · 21-04-2016 04:57PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Weird that he went to Brazil before the Aldo fight, known to be MUCH more hostile.

Aldo hadn't beaten him.

MrStuffins · 21-04-2016 05:00PM

It's a great statement but let's be honest here, Conor can't just all of a sudden pretend that it was only his fists that got him where we is today.

He's a show man, and if anything it's been the build up to fights and the mental warfare that has been his greatest asset. Do you think Aldo would've charged at him the way he did had Conor not been winding him up for months?

He's dealing with Dana White, the guy who built the game and knows it. Fighters don't have the power, he does! He believes this so much that he let it get in the way of us seeing Fedor in the UFC.

He cant give in now. And neither can Conor. There'll have to be a compromise but I think that Conor's bluff has been called here and his comment is a back-track, just in the most McGregor way possible!

Ush1 · 21-04-2016 05:00PM

Effects wrote: »

Aldo hadn't beaten him.

True, but I genuinely just think he wants to make sure he give full focus to his training. A lot of fighters change everything after a loss. I don't think him being afraid or anything comes into it.

Axwell · 21-04-2016 05:02PM

glasso wrote: »

where the back-chat trash-talk possibilities are limited. he had no problem doing it before.

In terms of the fight in the cage Nate won hands down, outside the cage Diaz cant compete. Even with a loss to Diaz recently McGregor would still end up coming out on top when it comes to thrash talk. Nate can barely string a sentence together never mind play mind games and bring decent thrash talk to the table. Diaz couldn't even stay the 10 minutes assigned for the CNBC interview before their and just walked out.

SeanBlack · 21-04-2016 05:03PM

The UFC have made vast amounts of money because Conor was compelling in interviews and brilliant at promotion. Also, he has done more promotional work than any other fighter. Exponentially more.

The figures relating to number of interviews/social media reach/PPV buys and box office numbers can't be argued with. The numbers simply don't lie. The guy is a grafter who went above and beyond any contractual obligations he had to promote events. He sure as hell didn't quote contract clauses, he simply went above and beyond what he was obligated to do.

Secondly, he has NOT said he will not promote the fight. But he wants to scale his promo way back so he can better prepare. What's wrong about asking other fighters to take up the slack? Presumably that's part of their obligation as well?

There is also the question of recent events and the death of a brave young man. On a side note: the Irish MMA community should be extremely proud of how they have handled themselves. People without resources have really proven their decency and character in supporting the families involved, while being vilified by an at times moronic Irish media.

Given all of this, I think the very least the UFC and the MAA community should do is cut Conor a bit of slack. We might also want to remember that he's a 27-year-old who yes has made a fortune, but who has earned every penny and handled it better than anyone I know would have at that age.

JJayoo · 21-04-2016 05:03PM

Will he still be drug tested as often?

Depp · 21-04-2016 05:05PM

JJayoo wrote: »

Will he still be drug tested as often?

obviously

EuskalHerria · 21-04-2016 05:05PM

UFC should probably stop social media posts for a while. Irish flags, four leaf clover emojis and Conor everywhere.

GiftofGab · 21-04-2016 05:05PM

If this was Diaz or any other fighter, McGregor would be saying how he's running scared.

He was contracted to do the media obligations. You can't sign a contract and say "I agree to do X" but then refuse do X and argue that you don't need to do X because you generated so much money and want to do Y instead.

weemcd · 21-04-2016 05:06PM

SeanBlack wrote: »

The UFC have made vast amounts of money because Conor was compelling in interviews and brilliant at promotion. Also, he has done more promotional work than any other fighter. Exponentially more.

The figures relating to number of interviews/social media reach/PPV buys and box office numbers can't be argued with. The numbers simply don't lie. The guy is a grafter who went above and beyond any contractual obligations he had to promote events. He sure as hell didn't quote contract clauses, he simply went above and beyond what he was obligated to do.

Secondly, he has NOT said he will not promote the fight. But he wants to scale his promo way back so he can better prepare. What's wrong about asking other fighters to take up the slack? Presumably that's part of their obligation as well?

There is also the question of recent events and the death of a brave young man. On a side note: the Irish MMA community should be extremely proud of how they have handled themselves. People without resources have really proven their decency and character in supporting the families involved, while being vilified by an at times moronic Irish media.

Given all of this, I think the very least the UFC and the MAA community should do is cut Conor a bit of slack. We might also want to remember that he's a 27-year-old who yes has made a fortune, but who has earned every penny and handled it better than anyone I know would have at that age.

Such wisdom and only 2 posts, you should post more. Unlike many morons who do.

Depp · 21-04-2016 05:08PM

great to see a lot of fighters siding with Conor on this one and not the usual ''ill take the fight dana'' little b*tch sh*t

Letree · 21-04-2016 05:09PM

messinkiapina wrote: »

Is he being cute by asking for something he knows he will not get, because he wants out of the Diaz fight? Taking that Diaz fight seems like an awful idea to me, maybe Conor is coming to that conclusion too.

I think they both realise Nate is a bad bad match up for Conor. Conor is a knockout artist and Nate's chin is too much for him. Conor isn't gonna wrestle him either so his only way to win is by decision. McGregor is untested over a 5 rounder. They just can't see him bet Diaz so concoct this to get him out of it imo.

I think they will kill Nate off at 200 with an opponent who will beat him. Nate will be old news then.

CSF · 21-04-2016 05:11PM

Depp wrote: »

great to see a lot of fighters siding with Conor on this one and not the usual ''ill take the fight dana'' little b*tch sh*t

Haven't been keeping in touch with Twitter, any big names?

maximoose · 21-04-2016 05:11PM

CSF wrote: »

Haven't been keeping in touch with Twitter, any big names?

Alvarez being a company man anyway:

@Ealvarezfight
If UFC folds then it's sets a precedent for future stars to do the same , short term gain $$$ Long term disaster .. Let's see what happens

Den_M · 21-04-2016 05:13PM

Regardless of the reason, writing on ****ing Twitter that you're retiring only to come back on ****ing Twitter 2 days later and say that you're not is stupid bloody behaviour.

I like Conor. I don't like everything that he says, but usually I can understand why he's saying it but this was dumb and he won't win in this situation. If the UFC bends the rules this time it'll start a precedent that will cause them serious issues with fighters in the future.

A rematch to a pointless fight in the first place will not be missed on the 200 card if it's amended properly.

Depp · 21-04-2016 05:13PM

CSF wrote: »

Haven't been keeping in touch with Twitter, any big names?

https://twitter.com/ZakCummings/status/723168184585453574

https://twitter.com/ALIAQUINTA/status/723163464827547648

two i spotted so far

21-04-2016 05:13PM

Axwell wrote: »

In terms of the fight in the cage Nate won hands down, outside the cage Diaz cant compete. Even with a loss to Diaz recently McGregor would still end up coming out on top when it comes to thrash talk. Nate can barely string a sentence together never mind play mind games and bring decent thrash talk to the table. Diaz couldn't even stay the 10 minutes assigned for the CNBC interview before their and just walked out.

All Diaz has to do is keep repeating is "you tapped out mofo" what do say to that?

Diaz walked out of the nbc gig if I recall due to mcgregor going on about how poor Diaz was compared to him, which was low as it gets.

Depp · 21-04-2016 05:14PM

maximoose wrote: »

Alvarez being a company man anyway:

@Ealvarezfight
If UFC folds then it's sets a precedent for future stars to do the same , short term gain $$$ Long term disaster .. Let's see what happens

of all the men who should be supporting mcgregor to get back on 200, mcgregor pulled thats his title shot gone

.ak · 21-04-2016 05:14PM

As rants go it's good. Can't help but feel he seems a little shaken though, first time I've heard him admitting someone's advantages over him...

Still tho I think he's absolutely right. Afaik the promo stipulations changed so he's right to fight for himself.

CSF · 21-04-2016 05:14PM

glasso wrote: »

All Diaz has to do is keep repeating is "you tapped out mofo" what do say to that?

Diaz walked out of the nbc gig if I recall due to mcgregor going on about how poor Diaz was compared to him, which was low as it gets.

If that was the case then Diaz would never be able to show his face again after all his defeats

Ush1 · 21-04-2016 05:15PM

glasso wrote: »

All Diaz has to do is keep repeating is "you tapped out mofo" what do say to that?

Diaz walked out of the nbc gig if I recall due to mcgregor going on about how poor Diaz was compared to him, which was low as it gets.

Diaz walked out because he didn't have a clue what was going on.

21-04-2016 05:16PM

CSF wrote: »

If that was the case then Diaz would never be able to show his face again after all his defeats

Were talking about mcgregor, not diaz

bobmalooka · 21-04-2016 05:17PM

They need a scenario allowing UFC to save face.

Hard to see happening apart from Diaz saying he wants the fight and doesn't care if McGregor cuts back some media work.

Then White can say he doesn't agree but won't deny Diaz his big payday, everyone wins.

Polo_Mint · 21-04-2016 05:19PM

I understand Conor with this statement.

The guy was like a dancing monkey for the UFC and all its fighters ( yes he brought it on himself ) but everyone pocketed off his back.

Now that they take it for granted he has changed it up and told everyone to step it up Pre -fight.

I can see the next conference where all questions are direct at Conor and him telling the Media to direct all questions to the other fighters on stage..

Axwell · 21-04-2016 05:21PM

glasso wrote: »

All Diaz has to do is keep repeating is "you tapped out mofo" what do say to that?

Diaz walked out of the nbc gig if I recall due to mcgregor going on about how poor Diaz was compared to him, which was low as it gets.

All Diaz could say is that, and he would get drowned out by McGregor during every interview that would happen. McGregor is too witty for him, Nates thought process goes at about 10 mile an hour. You cant expect it to go any other way, McGregor is well able to handle any crowd. The abuse he got in Brazil from the crowd rolled off his back. Nate offers nothing in the thrash talking game and its a waste of both their time. Nate walked off the CNBC gig because he had no comeback, even the interviewer was giggling at Conors comments about Nate not being able to count to 5 nevermind the 10 count for the interview.

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