Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

paulieeye

eddie73 wrote: »

What you offer an organization, and what the organization can offer you. It is not one way traffic either way.

If anyone is earning 8 million + a fight, then there is going to have to be media commitments involved.

I agree

paulieeye

Jesus, you all really think that he's backing out because he lost to Diaz?? Fighters loose all the time and go on to promote fights. Shiit he's lost twice before this. Look at Chael...didnt even break stride when he lost.

He could spin this so many ways...off the top of my head.."I need to fighter smarter against a bigger man, i needed to learn this the hard way but now I'll be prepared to a whole new level...things will be different next time Nate" and like thats its done. Course Nate will remind him over and over again..but guess what..Nate lost before too.

lougal88

paulieeye wrote: »

He didnt refuse media and press obligations, just didnt want to do the extra stuff they had planned, like this photoshoot where they wouldnt be trah talking.

There would of been plenty of time for Nate to remind Conor that he made him tap.

So theres a big hole in your thoery unless you want to expand it to say that conor knew he would be cut from the card for not doing the shoot and so wouldnt have to face Nate at all...but thats a bit mad to be honest

I said nothing about Conor not wanting to fight Nate. I'm talking about him hyping the fight with his usual style of destructing an opponents fight style.

Can't do that for this fight as Nate, although may not be as intellectual as Conor will ruin him with one line answers.

He is refusing to more than just one photo shoot. He said he would go to NY but not Vegas or Stockton i.e. quite a lot of media obligations.

ardinn

Whats the share record on fb? 172k so far!

the whole year inn

There allot of blind love for Mcgreggor,making excuses for him,yea hes a big draw for the UFC the biggest actually but he signed the contract to do the pressers and media obligations.Hes the one the threw himself infront of the screen playing it up for the camera,hes the one that made the millions of $.
Does no one else think its ridiculous what hes said ,was it something like hes a bigger man and bigger reach and I need to concentrate on training to beat him,what hes saying there is he wants more time training while let give less to Diaz.Both fighters should be given the same time.
Im sure McGregor could have got a new contract before UFC 200 to say have less time doing the media if he really wanted to.
Man up McGregor swallow your pride get in the ring and do Diaz

StringerBell

ardinn wrote: »

Whats the share record on fb? 172k so far!

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but in relation to this.

Facebook shares, likes, tweets, retweets etc

Honestly, who gives a flying ****?

paulieeye

lougal88 wrote: »

I said nothing about Conor not wanting to fight Nate. I'm talking about him hyping the fight with his usual style of destructing an opponents fight style.

Can't do that for this fight as Nate, although may not be as intellectual as Conor will ruin him with one line answers.

He is refusing to more than just one photo shoot. He said he would go to NY but not Vegas or Stockton i.e. quite a lot of media obligations.

But you agree that he'd have to face Nate anyway in the press conferences when the normal pr is being done?

Look this is getting a bit confusing but my point is I dont think he didnt want to do the extra PR because of lost mojo due to his loss to Nate. I still think he would be very aggressive and competent in these situations even with the loss.

Billy86

StringerBell wrote: »

ardinn wrote: »

Whats the share record on fb? 172k so far!

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but in relation to this.

Facebook shares, likes, tweets, retweets etc

Honestly, who gives a flying ****?

Sponsors, marketing companies and the likes, I would reckon.

RoryMac

So many people going off on tangents to explain this when the statements made by both Dana & Conor are clear on the dispute.

The UFC wanted a ton of publicity in the lead up to 200 & McGregor wanted to cut back a bit from it. Things get heated and he's pulled from the card.

It seems as simple as that.

It's hard to see Dana back down now so I'm guessing we'll have to wait for NYC to see Conor fight, if Diaz gets a new opponent for 200 it could be a win-win

ardinn

StringerBell wrote: »

I'm not trying to be snarky here, but in relation to this.

Facebook shares, likes, tweets, retweets etc

Honestly, who gives a flying ****?

I get where your coming from but since all the twiter retweet thing I was just wondering - I dont really care either but ... you know. Im bored!

hardCopy

I think people are over analysing this a bit too much.

Dana says he cut Conor because he wouldn't do the media push he was asked to do.

Conor says the same and adds that it's because he wants to train harder than he did the last time.

I still think the match-up can be saved. Dana offers Conor a slightly scaled back schedule and sends a camera crew out to Iceland to shoot some footage of Conor the hermit rededicating himself to his art.

Cut some promos with JK, Rogan and Dana talking about how this is gonna be Conor like we've never seen him before, blah blah blah. Even use the music from Rocky 4. Conor comes back with a new haircut and wears his hood up walking into the octagon.

Swashbuckler

RoryMac wrote: »

So many people going off on tangents to explain this when the statements made by both Dana & Conor are clear on the dispute.

The UFC wanted a ton of publicity in the lead up to 200 & McGregor wanted to cut back a bit from it. Things get heated and he's pulled from the card.

It seems as simple as that.

It's hard to see Dana back down now so I'm guessing we'll have to wait for NYC to see Conor fight, if Diaz gets a new opponent for 200 it could be a win-win

^^This.
Don't be surprised if Fertitta gets involved.

lougal88

paulieeye wrote: »

But you agree that he'd have to face Nate anyway in the press conferences when the normal pr is being done?

Look this is getting a bit confusing but my point is I dont think he didnt want to do the extra PR because of lost mojo due to his loss to Nate. I still think he would be very aggressive and competent in these situations even with the loss.

I'm saying he might hold his own for ONE press conference. Even at that he will struggle.

I don't think he will be as aggressive. What's he going to say? It'll be different this time?

Nate will destroy him in the press conference. The less he has to do the better. Hence the whole "concentrate on training" statement.

Personally I think its a complete cop-out. He created the whole brash McGregor character. The media obligations and trash talk is what got him where he is.

If you believe that hes refusing to take part now out of fatigue or whatever else, I think you are blinded by the admiration of his achievements.

Spudman_20000

I think there's an element in this of Conor seeing people's true colours after the loss too. Conor saved that card yet again, and Nate is suddenly the man because he beat the man.

You can see it in Conor's reference to doing shots in Cabo in his statement. He's saying "you know what, if you think Nate is such hot sh*t now, let him carry the can for the promotion".

RoryMac

Swashbuckler wrote: »

RoryMac wrote: »

So many people going off on tangents to explain this when the statements made by both Dana & Conor are clear on the dispute.

The UFC wanted a ton of publicity in the lead up to 200 & McGregor wanted to cut back a bit from it. Things get heated and he's pulled from the card.

It seems as simple as that.

It's hard to see Dana back down now so I'm guessing we'll have to wait for NYC to see Conor fight, if Diaz gets a new opponent for 200 it could be a win-win

^^This.
Don't be surprised if Fertitta gets involved.

Add your reply here.
The Fertitta's are most likely be behind Dana playing hardball with Conor

Stupid new boards making a mess of the quote

Faugheen

I think he's wearing his partners knickers and is afraid of being shown up by Nate in the media, after hyping himself up big time over the last 3 years.

Call Me Jimmy

I actually don't think it's such a strong statement. The only thing that has changed this time is that he is coming off a loss and it doesn't look good for him. Yea if anyone deserves special treatment it's him but does anyone deserve special treatment? He already got his wish of the rematch, no other fighter would have got the opportunity to avenge a loss like that.

I love him but he doesnt come off great here

paulieeye

lougal88 wrote: »

I'm saying he might hold his own for ONE press conference. Even at that he will struggle.

I don't think he will be as aggressive. What's he going to say? It'll be different this time?

Nate will destroy him in the press conference. The less he has to do the better. Hence the whole "concentrate on training" statement.

Personally I think its a complete cop-out. He created the whole brash McGregor character. The media obligations and trash talk is what got him where he is.

If you believe that hes refusing to take part now out of fatigue or whatever else, I think you are blinded by the admiration of his achievements.

No I dont think its out of fatigue, I think he realises that he has a serious fight on his hands and this wont be any 13sec KO and so doesnt want to break his stride in training.

I see where you're coming from with the press conference but I dont agree. We have seen many fighters come back from losses to be just as aggressive when hyping fights, sonnen and bisping spring to mind. He built this brash character alright but he can just as easily adapt it to a comeback kid fighting up a weight division, got caught with his own hype, now its personal type bullshiit. It doesnt really matter, he just has to pick a line and stick to it and be loud and brash as usual

the point being, fighters loose all the time, everyone realises this except fanboys. No one expects fighter to go undefeated. If and when he comes back, dont think he'll be any different just cus he lost (for the 3rd time)

canhefixit

Lads would he not just be so red faced and stuck for something credible to say after all the trash talk the first time? and for it all to back fire completely?

I think people read wayyy to much into these things

He hyped himself up said he would demolish Diaz and he was beat good, its gonna be hard for a man who boasts so much and trash talks about his oppenants so much to sit there and say anything against Diaz this time

Dont get me wrong, id like nothing more than Conor to come out and fight the proper fight the way he should of the first time and do the job on Diaz which i think he could easily but just got caught up in the hype and belief he was untouchable before

CSF

Faugheen wrote: »

I think he's wearing his partners knickers and is afraid of being shown up by Nate in the media, after hyping himself up big time over the last 3 years.

Let's be real though, you were going to think that no matter what he said because you don't like Conor McGregor.

Hyping himself up big time? He went undefeated towards becoming the current Featherweight champion. If it transpires that he isn't capable of being effective at Welterweight i don't think that will be the biggest conjob anyone has ever played on the world.

sonofenoch

Polo_Mint wrote: »

why the fuck is it not fair?

The only words from Diaz in the Press Conference is " **** You Mofo"

You dont even need Diaz at the press conference. A cardboard cutout with that quote is enough

Conor is the one who has beefed up any fight night he was involved in.

It looks like he wont do it anymore and the UFC needs to find another dancing monkey to do it.

Tbf been listening to alot of Diaz post fight and he's quite bright , maybe not as articulate but he's not dumb

SeanBlack

StringerBell wrote: »

He did refuse to do media and press obligations.

No, he did not.

He declined SPECIFIC media/press obligations at a certain point in time that would adversely affect him/his team/his family.

Got that out of the way?

Cool, we're on the same page.

Now it may well be that there is an overarching and vaguely worded clause about 'making reasonable effort to fulfill any and all required promotional obligations.' These clauses can he worded in a hundred ways and clause 4.6 can contradict 5.7, which then contradicts clause 10.1.

But as far as we know, he declined to do certain events in a certain time scale. There is a world of difference between saying I won't promote this event, and what has happened.

froog

fair statement from conor imo. all he wants is a bit less promotional stuff to focus on his training. he said he'd still do the big pressers. hardly asking for the world is he? after all the money he's made them. unless there's more stuff we haven't heard.

ardinn

not sure of the source - but according to this - it's off!!

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/4/21/11481106/report-ufc-officially-pulls-the-plug-on-nate-diaz-vs-conor-mcgregor

the whole year inn

froog wrote: »

fair statement from conor imo. all he wants is a bit less promotional stuff to focus on his training. he said he'd still do the big pressers. hardly asking for the world is he? after all the money he's made them. unless there's more stuff we haven't heard.

Hes looking for more time to train and then less for Diaz,that doesnt seem fair to me.

ASOT

ardinn wrote: »

not sure of the source - but according to this - it's off!!

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/4/21/11481106/report-ufc-officially-pulls-the-plug-on-nate-diaz-vs-conor-mcgregor

They should do McGregor Aldo 2.... Imagine Frankie's reaction it would be priceless.

zpehtsfd

Dana will never submit to any fighter, never has, never will. The "Retiring" stunt going to backfire. imo

Swashbuckler

zpehtsfd wrote: »

Dana will never submit to any fighter, never has, never will. The "Retiring" stunt going to backfire. imo

Dana got pulled from negotiations with Melendez and Fertitta stepped in.

CSF

I actually don't think I could control my amount of happy if Conor was to end up back on the card, and end up beating Diaz. With all the new vitriol that was thrown his direction after one defeat it would just be the ultimate redemption. Not even for Conor, for me having to read the sh*te on the Internet at large. How dare he lose one fight, what a fraud.

zpehtsfd

Swashbuckler wrote: »

Dana got pulled from negotiations with Melendez and Fertitta stepped in.

Technically it wasn't a submission.