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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • #2282
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Gamebred wrote: »
    There is some awful eijits out there who follow him,on facebook supporter groups complaining about him letting the fans down and how the the country is in a bad state financially and he owes them the fight in july because they have it booked already LOL


    Half of these dole merchants dont realise he could've pulled out a number of fights and still took them at short notice now hes a villain,


    As for the influx of new trolls here,please dont bite to these muppets.

    Peoples employment status is irrelevant so no need for the sweeping statements, no need for the back seat moderation either thanks. Take a few days off to relax and get the whole thing out of your system.


  • #2283
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,274 ✭✭✭SteM


    JustShon wrote: »
    I imagine that a significant portion of the people who have already booked flights / hotels to Vegas were going to be disappointed anyway since tickets haven't gone on sale yet and they're not guaranteed to get one for themselves.

    Long-winded way of saying they shouldn't have bought hotels and flights before knowing if they have a ticket to the fight or not.

    Exactly. Basing your trip to see a specific fighter on a card that's over 2 months when tickets haven't even gone on sale yet is crazy. Sure anything could happen in that time. Can't have too much sympathy to be honest.


  • #2284
    lougal88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭lougal88


    My theory on all this is that Conor is injured, cruciate again maybe.

    He has called multiple fighters pussies for pulling out of fights. So there was no way he could pull out for an injury, as all his stupid words would come back to bite him.

    He's already coming off a bad loss, so how was he going to trash talk for this fight anyway? "This time will be different"....

    I think if he pulled out of the fight it would have ruined him so he has faux retired and will be back fighting before the year is out.


  • #2285
    That_Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    JustShon wrote: »
    I imagine that a significant portion of the people who have already booked flights / hotels to Vegas were going to be disappointed anyway since tickets haven't gone on sale yet and they're not guaranteed to get one for themselves.

    Long-winded way of saying they shouldn't have bought hotels and flights before knowing if they have a ticket to the fight or not.

    Given the increase in prices on a near daily basis last year, we bit the bullet last January and bought our flights/hotel way in advance of having a ticket.

    It's an expensive time in Vegas and flights are not cheap this time of year so for fear of increase in fares, people decided to book ahead of time. Not uncommon.

    When fights are scrapped/pull outs occur, it's usually a bit of an annoyance. But when you've paid money ahead of time, it becomes a lot more panicky.

    These things happen but it's a really odd situation. I think I'm right in saying that Nick Diaz didn't do much promotional stuff for his fight against GSP and still fought.

    I wonder if this is the UFC taking no shít ahead of their marquee event this year.


  • #2286
    SteM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,274 ✭✭✭SteM


    badbeatcentral wrote: »
    Why is it pathetic? a lot of people (Irish people in particular) only started watching UFC because of Conor, only natural that those people drift away from the sport if he retires.

    Hopefully Pendred will come out of retirement to fill the void. :p


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  • #2287
    JustShon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    fermanagh_man wrote: »
    If you've any interest in MMA/UFC then you will know 200 will be a great event with or without Conor

    I know it sucks he is not on the card anymore but seeing people say they aren't going or even watching UFC anymore if Conor retires is pathetic really

    I've a certain amount of sympathy for those fans. To them it's a bit like going to a football match and you find out the team you support isn't showing up.

    Personally I'll still watch it, McGregor got me interested in the sport but now I've become interested in broader MMA (and not just UFC either). For some though they're just McGregor fans, not MMA fans.


  • #2288
    coniosumadre
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 256 ✭✭coniosumadre


    Rubbish. He's running scared. How do you thrash talk someone in a press conference who whipped your ass last time.?


  • #2289
    madcabbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭madcabbage


    Maybe it's a combination of a couple of things. The missus is possibly pregnant and the death of Carvalho must have had some effect on him. Can't honestly see him calling it quits over media obligations, he's in the game long enough to know that he has to do it!


  • #2290
    JustShon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Given the increase in prices on a near daily basis last year, we bit the bullet last January and bought our flights/hotel way in advance of having a ticket.

    It's an expensive time in Vegas and flights are not cheap this time of year so for fear of increase in fares, people decided to book ahead of time. Not uncommon.

    When fights are scrapped/pull outs occur, it's usually a bit of an annoyance. But when you've paid money ahead of time, it becomes a lot more panicky.

    These things happen but it's a really odd situation. I think I'm right in saying that Nick Diaz didn't do much promotional stuff for his fight against GSP and still fought.

    I wonder if this is the UFC taking no shít ahead of their marquee event this year.

    I'm not saying it doesn't suck to have bought your flights and hotels and then find out McG won't be fighting.

    I'm just saying that out of his last 3 fights, only one of them actually wound up being who it was supposed to be originally and even that only lasted 13 seconds. You have to accept that UFC fights are very much subject to change.


  • #2291
    JustShon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Rubbish. He's running scared. How do you thrash talk someone in a press conference who whipped your ass last time.?

    He didn't pull out, he was pulled.


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  • #2292
    That_Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    coniosumadre wrote: »
    Rubbish. He's running scared. How do you thrash talk someone in a press conference who whipped your ass last time.?

    How is he running scared? He took the Diaz fight on short notice at a higher weight class to save yet another card. He lost sure but by all accounts, he was the one that demanded this rematch despite the UFC brass warning him against it.

    There's something more and it's pure speculation but like myself and others have mentioned, it seems that doing a big media event in the wake of a fighters death is something he may not feel comfortable with.

    This may be the UFC's way of saying, 'nobody is bigger than the promotion itself. We have plenty of other fighters who'd kill for a main event spot at UFC 200. So long and good luck'.


  • #2293
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    So the news broke late last night and some of you are only seeing it now. Lets be very clear on a few things..

    We all know the story so far - so lets keep the theories and comments sensible and not go down the route of trolling nonsense for the sake of it. There will be more to unfold on the story and anything outside of what we know so far is just speculation...try not to let the whole thing go to your head and post something stupid, its only going to get you a break from the forum.

    To all the new visitors - if you don't like MMA or dont like Conor McGregor that's fine but don't come in trolling and expect to be sticking around. Engage in reasonable discussion or you will be shown the door.


  • #2294
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    jones 19 wrote: »
    He has not turned up to the press conferences as he knows he'll get pulled from the fight so he won't have to fight Diaz again.
    glasso wrote: »
    Mcgregor pulled out / chickened out of this fight by his actions.
    coniosumadre wrote: »
    He's running scared.


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    Folks, you do realise the rematch was Conor's choice, right?

    Ya'll acting as if the UFC had told him he had to fight Nate again and he bricked it.


  • #2295
    That_Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    JustShon wrote: »
    I'm not saying it doesn't suck to have bought your flights and hotels and then find out McG won't be fighting.

    I'm just saying that out of his last 3 fights, only one of them actually wound up being who it was supposed to be originally and even that only lasted 13 seconds. You have to accept that UFC fights are very much subject to change.

    I understand that fights are subject to change. Given the awful year they had in 2014 with injuries, it's always a factor in combat sports.

    But whatever about a change in opponent, at least he was always on the card to fight. I'm sure he'd have fought on the card still if the media stuff could have waited another week or so.

    The fact that he's pulled and not injured is definitely a bitter pill to swallow and I can fully empathise with people heading over.


  • #2296
    [Deleted User]
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    Cathy.C wrote: »


    Folks, you do realise the rematch was Conor's choice, right?

    Ya'll acting as if the UFC had told him he had to fight Nate again and he bricked it.

    but he did then pull out of the fight then - also his choice.


  • #2297
    JustShon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    That_Guy wrote: »
    I understand that fights are subject to change. Given the awful year they had in 2014 with injuries, it's always a factor in combat sports.

    But whatever about a change in opponent, at least he was always on the card to fight. I'm sure he'd have fought on the card still if the media stuff could have waited another week or so.

    The fact that he's pulled and not injured is definitely a bitter pill to swallow and I can fully empathise with people heading over.

    Yeah I get that since it's something preventable it must be especially annoying.

    It could end up as a change of opponent, just a change of opponent for Diaz, and he does have his share of fans showing up to watch him, especially after beating McGregor last time.


  • #2298
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    glasso wrote: »
    but he did then pull out of the fight then - also his choice.

    He didnt pull out of the fight...he got pulled from the fight, there is a clear difference. The official statement was given last night by Dana White.

    Now kindly stop trolling on the matter - you already have a warning, keep it up and the door is next.


  • #2299
    SpaceCowb0y
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    Hard to see what has brought this on, did Joao Carvalho's death impact him this badly? Understandable when he was at the fight and it was against his teammate but at the end of the day he wasn't the one throwing the shots at him. Who am i to know how that type of tragedy can affect another man though. Perhaps he is injured and doesn't want to admit it after the abuse he threw at everyone in the past for the same thing, OR did he think he was possibly about to fail a drugs test and instead of going through with it and having that type of news get out he retired instead? I guess nobody knows except Conor and maybe those closest to him.

    Who knows, maybe this is just the master of head games and fight promotion trolling the whole mma world. it's a Wednesday morning 3 months before 200 is even to take place and all anyone online can talk about is Conor Mcgregor! He certainly knows how to stay in the limelight. I'm sure we will get more information on this over the next few days. Sucks for the fans who have paid to get over for 200 but you can't begrudge a man for his choices whatever they are.

    He's made a lot of money really quickly and could probably happily live the rest of his days without working if he wanted but I'd be highly surprised if this was the last we saw of 'The Notorious' inside the Octagon! Possibly even at 200


  • #2300
    That_Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    glasso wrote: »
    but he did then pull out of the fight then - also his choice.

    Not a hope in hell he was wishing to be pulled from this fight. Win, lose or draw he would certainly have been on course to receive his biggest purse yet.


  • #2301
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    glasso wrote: »
    but he did then pull out of the fight then - also his choice.

    Nobody knows yet. Posted my thoughts already, as have many others, but it sure ain't because he's afraid.

    He would have just went and defended his belt again if that was the case. You don't arrange rematches with fighters you're afraid of. That's illogical.


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  • #2302
    zuutroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    What sort of career earnings is he sitting on to date, roughly?


  • #2303
    JustShon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭JustShon


    glasso wrote: »
    but he did then pull out of the fight then - also his choice.

    He refused to attend media events, then UFC pulled him. Getting a bit sick of repeating the difference between pulling out and being pulled to people who don't understand.

    If you're implying he refused his media obligations in order to get pulled well I can't prove you're wrong but that's a little bit too conspiracy theory for my blood. I'd find it way more likely that he didn't want to go to the media events in Vegas and he never expected them to genuinely pull him from the fight.


  • #2304
    [Deleted User]
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    Axwell wrote: »
    He didnt pull out of the fight...he got pulled from the fight, there is a clear difference. The official statement was given last night by Dana White.

    Now kindly stop trolling on the matter - you already have a warning, keep it up and the door is next.

    hang on a second - how is that comment trolling?

    Dana White said he was pulled because McGregor wouldn't do promo.

    McGregor chose not to do promo and would have fully known the consequences so according to the current information, McGregor effectively pulled out.

    Behind the scenes, I'm sure it's a question of money.


  • #2305
    That_Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    zuutroy wrote: »
    What sort of career earnings is he sitting on to date, roughly?

    It's hard to say. Whatever about the money from PPV's/bonuses etc, you have to factor in the external endorsements. Budweiser, Reebok Monster Energy drinks, various mobile phone games etc.

    I'd say he's on a fairly big chunk. I'd hate to hazard a guess but upwards of about €7-8m I would say.


  • #2306
    SpaceCowb0y
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭SpaceCowb0y


    That_Guy wrote: »
    It's hard to say. Whatever about the money from PPV's/bonuses etc, you have to factor in the external endorsements. Budweiser, Reebok Monster Energy drinks, various mobile phone games etc.

    I'd say he's on a fairly big chunk. I'd hate to hazard a guess but upwards of about €7-8m I would say.

    Way more than that!! he would have made over that for last fight alone with fight purse and PPV never mind sponsorships and endorsements!

    I'd say he has accumulated well closer to 20mil at this point.


  • #2307
    weemcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,515 ✭✭✭weemcd


    Joe Rogan guessed he made about $5 million for Aldo fight and possibly more for the Diaz fight.

    Id imagine everything together, all his fight purses, deals etc would have him easily on $12 million+. Nobody has any idea how much he spends though so he could have burned through a lot of that already.


  • #2308
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    glasso wrote: »
    hang on a second - how is that comment trolling?

    Dana White said he was pulled because McGregor wouldn't do promo.

    McGregor chose not to do promo and would have fully known the consequences so according to the current information, McGregor effectively pulled out.

    Behind the scenes, I'm sure it's a question of money.

    McGregor pulled from the fight - fact

    McGregor said he wouldnt do the promo work - fact

    McGregor pulled out of the fight - pure speculation on your part, there is no official statement from Conor McGregor or Dana White that said he pulled out of the fight.


  • #2309
    [Deleted User]
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    SpaceCowb0y wrote: »
    Way more than that!! he would have made over that for last fight alone with fight purse and PPV never mind sponsorships and endorsements!

    I'd say he has accumulated well closer to 20mil at this point.

    what about all the taxes he would be paying - mainly in the US?


  • #2310
    FutureGuy
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 15,255 Mod ✭✭✭✭FutureGuy


    I would be stunned of WWE haven't already reached out to him. $20-30m for 12-13 appearances and a Wrestlemania fight.

    He's a clever businessman. It makes a ton of sense.


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  • #2311
    Professey Chin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    glasso wrote: »
    what about all the taxes he would be paying - mainly in the US?

    Thats what a good accountant is for


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