Justin Bieber guilty of 'Cultural Appropriation'?

beach_walker · 07-04-2016 11:27AM

The absolute worse thing about slavery to your modern day SJW is that "white people" culturally appropriated the practice.

seamus · 07-04-2016 11:28AM

biko wrote: »

Can the leftits on AH please make a list of what hair styles and clothes are acceptable for each race?

Honestly not sure if her attitude is liberal left or conservative right.

"Everyone should be their own race, people should not appropriate other cultures" sounds like a very rightist attitude to me

dinorebel · 07-04-2016 11:31AM

Cultural Appropriation is a stupid concept that hairstyle making him look like a twat however is a valid concept.

Duggy747 · 07-04-2016 11:31AM

seamus wrote: »

Honestly not sure if her attitude is liberal left or conservative right.

"Everyone should be their own race, people should not appropriate other cultures" sounds like a very rightist attitude to me

Very much the horse shoe theory going into overdrive these past few years.

Help!!!! · 07-04-2016 11:32AM

12Phase wrote: »

Slavery is just wrong - end of story.

Its very clear that black people were treated absolutely beyond abysmally over the centuries though.

It's just worth remembering though it was by *some* white, racist establishment systems. It's actually pretty racist to accuse every white person of having had an ancestral role in that. Most of us absolutely did not. Nor is if fair to assume that all white people are racist. That's simply not true.

What's frightening is slavery is *still* on going. It's just not happening in the democratic and developed world.

We're still turning a blind eye to it. You're probably using electronics or wearing clothes that have at least components that were produced by people in de facto slave conditions.

Yes of course slavery is wrong but some black people think that their ancestors were the only victims of it.

ohnonotgmail · 07-04-2016 11:34AM

12Phase wrote: »

Slavery is just wrong - end of story.

Its very clear that black people were treated absolutely beyond abysmally over the centuries though.

It's just worth remembering though it was by *some* white, racist establishment systems. It's actually pretty racist to accuse every white person of having had an ancestral role in that. Most of us absolutely did not. Nor is if fair to assume that all white people are racist. That's simply not true.

What's frightening is slavery is *still* on going. It's just not happening in the democratic and developed world.

We're still turning a blind eye to it. You're probably using electronics or wearing clothes that have at least components that were produced by people in de facto slave conditions.

and also by arabs and their fellow blacks.

For Forks Sake · 07-04-2016 11:34AM

Duggy747 wrote: »

Led Zeppelin are guilty of cultural appropriation, how dare they take blues from African-Americans and put it into their white man sounds.

Rory Gallagher is probably the greatest monster of the 20th century.

You forgot the Rolling Stones.

And Elvis, the biggest cultural appropriator of them all.

biko · 07-04-2016 11:35AM

I saw a black man in khaki trousers the other day, I shouted "stop culturally appropriate my stuff"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw

Help!!!! · 07-04-2016 11:40AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and also by arabs and their fellow blacks.

http://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/from-baltimore-to-barbary-the-1631-sack-of-baltimore/

jungleman · 07-04-2016 11:44AM

Cultural appropriation is tied up with that "safe space" nonsense. Victim complex + thinking you are Einstein because you go to university = Moron.

Must be a serious amount of people with PHD's in anthropology considering the amount of gobshítes who think they are an authority on culture.

Duggy747 · 07-04-2016 11:51AM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

You forgot the Rolling Stones.

And Elvis, the biggest cultural appropriator of them all.

Triggered

12Phase · 07-04-2016 12:07PM

seamus wrote: »

Honestly not sure if her attitude is liberal left or conservative right.

"Everyone should be their own race, people should not appropriate other cultures" sounds like a very rightist attitude to me

Isn't that basically apartheid philosophy?!?!

Many people are also mixed race!

Including members of my family and I'll quite happily appropriate aspects of my inlaws' and distant cousins' culture no matter what some jumped up student protestors who, despite their belief, are behaving like fascists!

This line of thinking is so warped that it could nearly drive a person with musical taste to like Justin Beeber !!

ohnonotgmail · 07-04-2016 12:07PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

http://www.historyireland.com/early-modern-history-1500-1700/from-baltimore-to-barbary-the-1631-sack-of-baltimore/

a story i'm very familiar with. My point thought is that americans seem to think that slavery is something that only white people perpetrated on black people.

Rattser · 07-04-2016 12:08PM

conorhal wrote: »

Am I guilty of cultural appropriation if I order and Indian takeaway tonight? If it's racist I'll just go and boil some spuds instead.......

Potatoes came from Peru. Nuts, berries, seafood and if you find any wild boar is all we can eat without appropriating any other cultures.

Help!!!! · 07-04-2016 12:09PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

a story i'm very familiar with. My point thought is that americans seem to think that slavery is something that only white people perpetrated on black people.

Yeah & they dont want to hear any different

speedboatchase · 07-04-2016 12:10PM

12Phase wrote: »

Isn't that basically apartheid philosophy?!?!

Many people are also mixed race!

Including members of my family and I'll quite happily appropriate aspects of my inlaws' and distant cousins' culture no matter what some jumped up student protestors who, despite their belief, are behaving like fascists!

This line of thinking is so warped that it could nearly drive a person with musical taste to like Justin Beeber !!

At some point someone will try argue that mixed race relationships are racist because the person from the 'dominant race' has somehow tricked the other person due to societal bias blah blah actually hurting my brain right now.

Help!!!! · 07-04-2016 12:13PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

At some point someone will try argue that mixed race relationships are racist because the person from the 'dominant race' has somehow tricked the other person due to societal bias blah blah actually hurting my brain right now.

I find it racist when black people call mixed race people black, what about the other race/races making up the person

12Phase · 07-04-2016 12:14PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

At some point someone will try argue that mixed race relationships are racist because the person from the 'dominant race' has somehow tricked the other person due to societal bias blah blah actually hurting my brain right now.

Yeah in other words certain so called anti-racists are actually racists, just with different motivations!!

I'm off to absorb some culture at a fusion restaurant!!

Help!!!! · 07-04-2016 12:17PM

12Phase wrote: »

Yeah in other words certain so called anti-racists are actually racists, just with different motivations!!

I'm off to absorb some culture at a fusion restaurant!!

Think I'll absorb some culture down my local " massage " parlour

speedboatchase · 07-04-2016 12:24PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

I find it racist when black people call mixed race people black, what about the other race/races making up the person

I suppose, in 2016, it's down to how that person wants to be identified, e.g. as white, black, or mixed race. If you're Obama, you can skilfully glide between all three depending on your audience.

Although I do notice that many mixed race celebs with black and white parents in America seem to always identify as mixed race or black, but never white. Case in point the Disney Channel actress Zendaya who regularly dives into the argument on cultural appropriation by white people. Recently she said: "Black women have been wearing braids for a very long time, and that's another part of the frustration. We've been using that as a protective style, as a hairstyle. That's been in our culture and our community for a very long time."

This is her and her mam: http://cdn03.cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2014/05/zendaya-mom-brunch-mothers-day.jpg

Can her mam braid her hair, according to her? Probably not.

12Phase · 07-04-2016 12:25PM

@Help!!!

You realise that's probably a therapy centre and they'll call the guards if you keep doing that...

RWCNT · 07-04-2016 12:31PM

Can't watch the video with sound as Im in work, so can't comment on whatever's being said there.

Dreadlocks, a lot like stretched ears, have existed in a lot of different cultures. If you simply stop combing your hair then it will eventually dread naturally so I'm struggling to imagine how someone could be appropriating a culture by simple neglect alone. I think a lot of the frustration comes from the idea that a white person wearing something might be viewed in a different way to someone of a different race/ethnic background. I worked in an office ages ago where there was a white girl who was allowed to have dreads as they were "neat" whereas a black male member of staff was admonished for them looking "dirty". There was **** all difference between them that I could see but the impression was that as far as HR were concerned "White girl + dreads = cool alternative girl" while "Black men + dreads = Cannibus user". That is of course down to the utter racism of the management and not the white girl's choice of hairstyle of course.

I can absolutely think of some examples of it that I do find annoying, albeit more on a personal preference level than taking offence. Whats with the fashion trend of wearing a bindi, for example? I could completely understand if a Hindu was annoyed by that.

Help!!!! · 07-04-2016 12:40PM

12Phase wrote: »

@Help!!!

You realise that's probably a therapy centre and they'll call the guards if you keep doing that...

Nah Mingming doesn't mind in the slightest

Crann na Beatha · 07-04-2016 02:33PM

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ger vallely · 07-04-2016 02:49PM

Hang on a minute. I saw that documentary Brave Heart. Yer man had dreadlocks and he was a Celt. Mountains molehills crappy plop plop. Get a grip with yer appropriation.

loveisdivine · 07-04-2016 03:02PM

I stopped brushing my hair a few months back, now I just leave it naturally curly, sometimes dreads start to form. Sometimes I pick them out, sometimes I let them carry on. It has absolutely nothing to do with someone else's culture.

Gyalist · 07-04-2016 03:06PM

speedboatchase wrote: »

Although I do notice that many mixed race celebs with black and white parents in America seem to always identify as mixed race or black, but never white. Case in point the Disney Channel actress Zendaya who regularly dives into the argument on cultural appropriation by white people. Recently she said: "Black women have been wearing braids for a very long time, and that's another part of the frustration. We've been using that as a protective style, as a hairstyle. That's been in our culture and our community for a very long time."

The One-drop Rule

The one-drop rule is a social and legal principle of racial classification that was historically prominent in the United States asserting that any person with even one ancestor of sub-Saharan-African ancestry ("one drop" of black blood)[1][2] is considered black (Negro in historical terms). This concept evolved over the course of the 19th century and became codified into law in the 20th century. It was associated with the principle of "invisible blackness" and is an example of hypodescent, the automatic assignment of children of a mixed union between different socioeconomic or ethnic groups to the group with the lower status.

Now I'm sure that someone will read that last sentence and still deny that there is a "power dynamic".

DEFTLEFTHAND · 07-04-2016 03:28PM

Help!!!! wrote: »

Slavery is not just a black thing either....Irish people were sold as slaves in the Caribbean & were actually treated worse than the black slaves

The Barbary slave trade is also rarely brought up by anyone.

hatrickpatrick · 07-04-2016 03:48PM

Cultural Appropriation is not and never will be a thing. If it was, Eminem would be as egregious as any of the modern artists SJWs are attacking.

smash · 07-04-2016 03:49PM

loveisdivine wrote: »

I stopped brushing my hair a few months back, now I just leave it naturally curly, sometimes dreads start to form. Sometimes I pick them out, sometimes I let them carry on. It has absolutely nothing to do with someone else's culture.

Just pure laziness

Justin Bieber guilty of 'Cultural Appropriation'?

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