Cork 2016 Route news

zone 1 · 27-01-2016 11:52AM

96fm very interesting people options on it....ive this feeling it could be another cork---- swansea ferry run for short period and boom gone ,that saying even if gets the go ahead..

highlydebased · 27-01-2016 02:25PM

lisasimpson wrote:

Regradless of the boston route, any idea of the bookings for the other new routes going..read on one of the national papers that holiday bookings made this January compared to other years are up significantly

Numbers for cityjet will be a going concern

roundymac · 27-01-2016 03:45PM

highlydebased wrote: »

Numbers for cityjet will be a going concern

It is January though, it really needs to have a high season run to gauge it properly; I also suspect that people are thinking the LCY is out in the sticks when in fact the opposite is true.

JCX BXC · 27-01-2016 07:16PM

Will be interesting to see the figures once June/July/August comes around.

lisasimpson · 27-01-2016 07:41PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Will be interesting to see the figures once June/July/August comes around.

Indeed.. it take time for a route to bed down but the the summer traffic will say a lot. I think twice daily is more realistic for the London city service

Booked flights on the new Madrid service recently.. appears to be popular enough.. not many seats left for sept. its only available mid june to mid sept last flight the 17th of Sept hopefully it returns 2017 for a bit of a longer duration

man98 · 27-01-2016 07:47PM

The Madrid service will have been booked up with Spanish students, Blue air operated plenty student charters in last summer on IB's behalf. The worrying fact about Cityjet's service is that (from DUB) more people fly to LCY in February than in August, a reverse of what happens to most routes. While I'm sure the demographics are different in Cork, it must be a worrying prospect for WX.

L1011 · 27-01-2016 08:31PM

man98 wrote: »

The Madrid service will have been booked up with Spanish students, Blue air operated plenty student charters in last summer on IB's behalf. The worrying fact about Cityjet's service is that (from DUB) more people fly to LCY in February than in August, a reverse of what happens to most routes. While I'm sure the demographics are different in Cork, it must be a worrying prospect for WX.

Business traffic drops off over the summer. They mostly get business passengers.

JCX BXC · 28-01-2016 07:02PM

So WX will be reducing soon by the looks of it? 40% loads aren't sustainable.

lisasimpson · 11-02-2016 10:24PM

Airport reporting 6percent growth last month. Hopefully that figure continues come the summer with new routes

Nemanrio · 12-02-2016 09:51AM

Carnacalla wrote: »

So WX will be reducing soon by the looks of it? 40% loads aren't sustainable.

lisasimpson wrote: »

Airport reporting 6percent growth last month. Hopefully that figure continues come the summer with new routes

Isn't one contradicting the other to an extent?

JCX BXC · 12-02-2016 01:20PM

Nemanrio wrote: »

Isn't one contradicting the other to an extent?

No?
Explain.

Nemanrio · 12-02-2016 01:33PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

No?
Explain.

Growth increasing,airline reducing capacity due loads?

JCX BXC · 12-02-2016 01:57PM

Nemanrio wrote: »

Growth increasing,airline reducing capacity due loads?

On a new route. The growth is mainly due to that new route.

lisasimpson · 12-02-2016 02:15PM

And cardiff route has increased its service and to one of winter sun destinations

JCX BXC · 12-02-2016 03:54PM

lisasimpson wrote: »

And cardiff route has increased its service

Kind of, this time last year there was no service.

Loads are said to be horrorific on that too, but no major surprise considering its only 2pw.

lisasimpson · 12-02-2016 07:58PM

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/lift-off-at-cork-airport-passenger-numbers-on-the-rise-in-2016/1843434/

link to Echo article on numbers

one thing I noticed on facebook recently there was a advert about booking holidays and flying from cork... a few people posted they wont book from cork cause they are afraid the service would be cancelled before they get to go.. unfortunately after the Prague thing last year its an image Cork needs to sort out

highlydebased · 18-02-2016 10:00PM

As if it weren't fleetingly obvious by now, Norwegian plans "on hold"

http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/0218/769179-norwegian-airline-cork/

roundymac · 20-02-2016 12:16AM

But not cancelled. That's the important thing.

JCX BXC · 20-02-2016 12:23AM

roundymac wrote: »

But not cancelled. That's the important thing.

Not yet.
Hopefully, Norwegian will be made tighten up their labour laws a bit and still continue with the Cork ops, that would be, in my opinion, the ideal outcome.

kub · 01-03-2016 10:00PM

roundymac wrote: »

But not cancelled. That's the important thing.

Sorry to discover

http://clareherald.com/2016/03/shannon-confirms-deal-with-norwegian-air-75391/

JCX BXC · 01-03-2016 10:03PM

kub wrote: »

Sorry to discover

http://clareherald.com/2016/03/shannon-confirms-deal-with-norwegian-air-75391/

That means they are cancelled does it?

Shannon have been talking to Norwegian since BEFORE cork.

Locker10a · 01-03-2016 10:14PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

That means they are cancelled does it?

Shannon have been talking to Norwegian since BEFORE cork.

I don't think Norwegian are serious about services from either airport I feel this is an experiment

kub · 01-03-2016 10:18PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

That means they are cancelled does it?

Shannon have been talking to Norwegian since BEFORE cork.

I have copied and posted the following from the Shannon Airport thread:

This funny when Norwegian announced flights for cork, there was great celebration at the death of Shannon, I wonder how many are so smug now?

And let's be clear Norwegian are only playing games to screw employees but for the people of cork that didn't matter a dam, hopefully they operate from snn aer lingus have had it all their own way long enough and have shown no loyalty to snn or traveling pax, so best of luck to Norwegian!

First of all, would you guys up there please recognise that there is a capital C in Cork.

Secondly and in all seriousness, do you think that traffic levels justify Norwegian offering the same route from Shannon and Cork?

JCX BXC · 01-03-2016 10:27PM

So yeah, one poster summarises everyone who supports Shannon? Grow up would you. I infact did not agree with what imurdaddy said and think there was little begrudging against Shannon.

Also, you never answered my question. Does that mean it's cancelled? It certainly does not. Why would it? Chances are Norwegian have no interest in Shannon and are only using it as political bate to get the US DOT approval.

In the article you posted above, I take this quote- "A Shannon Airport spokesman said: “We have a deal in place with Norwegian Airlines, having commenced discussions with them in 2014."

Locker10a wrote: »

I don't think Norwegian are serious about services from either airport I feel this is an experiment

I agree, if not an experiment, just bait for Irish labour laws.

kub · 01-03-2016 10:58PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

So yeah, one poster summarises everyone who supports Shannon? Grow up would you. I infact did not agree with what imurdaddy said and think there was little begrudging against Shannon.

Also, you never answered my question. Does that mean it's cancelled? It certainly does not. Why would it? Chances are Norwegian have no interest in Shannon and are only using it as political bate to get the US DOT approval.

In the article you posted above, I take this quote- "A Shannon Airport spokesman said: “We have a deal in place with Norwegian Airlines, having commenced discussions with them in 2014."

I agree, if not an experiment, just bait for Irish labour laws.

I will let your ' grow up ' statement pass. As i have said either here or on another thread, I have no issues with Shannon, I use it for T/A travel.
It makes zero commercial sense in using the 2 airports, what have Shannon got to gain by releasing this statement?

JCX BXC · 01-03-2016 11:03PM

kub wrote: »

I will let your ' grow up ' statement pass. As i have said either here or on another thread, I have no issues with Shannon, I use it for T/A travel.
It makes zero commercial sense in using the 2 airports, what have Shannon got to gain by releasing this statement?

Lately though you have been rather unfair towards the airport, I have no problem with Cork at all and am supporting these services. I think you do realise that Norwegian have more motives than just the market at ORK, but hopefully once they are established they may find profitability and stay.

Commercially, I think it makes more sense for Norwegian to start operations at Cork, for two reasons:

1. No competition. ORK-BOS is an untapped market (Unsure of it's size though) compared to a year round, and in the summer widebody service already in place at Shannon.

2. Discounts at Cork. For LCC's airport fee's are important, Cork will do alot to get this service, but Shannon likely won't be offering any discounts.

It's also noteworthy that Shannon are not releasing the statements, it seems the Clare Herald dug into these stories themselves. Slow news day perhaps?

kub · 01-03-2016 11:11PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Lately though you have been rather unfair towards the airport, I have no problem with Cork at all and am supporting these services. I think you do realise that Norwegian have more motives than just the market at ORK, but hopefully once they are established they may find profitability and stay.

Commercially, I think it makes more sense for Norwegian to start operations at Cork, for two reasons:

1. No competition. ORK-BOS is an untapped market (Unsure of it's size though) compared to a year round, and in the summer widebody service already in place at Shannon.

2. Discounts at Cork. For LCC's airport fee's are important, Cork will do alot to get this service, but Shannon likely won't be offering any discounts.

It's also noteworthy that Shannon are not releasing the statements, it seems the Clare Herald dug into these stories themselves. Slow news day perhaps?

All i have said about Shannon has been factual, sorry if you find that unfair.
I hope you are right about the Slow news day though, just felt they were doing a Ryanair on it.

JCX BXC · 01-03-2016 11:16PM

kub wrote: »

All i have said about Shannon has been factual, sorry if you find that unfair.
I hope you are right about the Slow news day though, just felt they were doing a Ryanair on it.

Factual with an agenda though, you can't pretend to be neutral on here:D

Between the Clare Herald and Irish Examiner, you'd wonder if they have any actual real news to report.

kub · 01-03-2016 11:32PM

Carnacalla wrote: »

Factual with an agenda though, you can't pretend to be neutral on here:D

Between the Clare Herald and Irish Examiner, you'd wonder if they have any actual real news to report.

The only way i could be truly neutral would be if i moved to somewhere like Kerry or Tipperary ( no issues or disrespect to the good people in either county

)

I suppose the media have been so wrapped up with politics over the last while that they are seeking out stories about other things.

Pat Dunne · 02-03-2016 01:29AM

Here we go, "handbags at dawn" over SNN yet again.

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