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Gangland Shootings in Dublin MOD Warning in Post #1 (updated 29/05/16)

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  • #992
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    To be fair, the Gardai can't be everywhere and prevent everything from happening. How can they be expected to monitor every single scumbag in the country? And even if they monitor all the known criminals, what's to stop the criminals using outside contractors to do the hits?

    If we had unlimited resources where there were armed Gardai on every street corner and in every housing estate, then these hits wouldn't be happening.

    I don't think I'd like to live in a society where we have armed Gardai in every nook and cranny.

    No, what we should have is known scumbags in prison where they can't behave the way they're behaving.


  • #993
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,605 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    They pick out the easier jobs. They revel in them. They still mount speeding checkpoints. They love bagging drivers in sneaky areas. Shooting fish in a barrell.
    Those would be the traffic corps, who are employed and trained to do just that.

    That's their job.

    Do you really think when there's a shooting they're going to drop the speed gun, run into the nearest phone box, do a few twirls and come out in combat gear toting a machine gun??


  • #994
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,944 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    No, what we should have is known scumbags in prison where they can't behave the way they're behaving.


    Yeah the whole "due process" thing is just way overrated. Bring back internment and be done with it.


  • #995
    barney4001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭barney4001


    Jayop wrote: »
    Because Enda brought Sf into it in typical form.

    grasping at straws again as usual


  • #996
    Leroy Brown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Leroy Brown


    Gamebred wrote: »
    LOL at the chewing gum littering talk you seriously think that kind of crap would stop people going into organised crime ffs wake up from that dream with your zero tolerance the Idea of taking a city from another continents approach to policing is laughable on budget alone never mind the fact it wouldnt work if they did try it.

    There's a $700 fine for spitting out gum on the streets in Singapore btw and crime rates there are some of the lowest in the world.


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  • #997
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Leroy Brown wrote: »
    There's a $700 fine for spitting out gum on the streets in Singapore btw and crime rates there are some of the lowest in the world.



    So theres no organised crime in singapore or gangland killings?


  • #998
    07Lapierre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,406 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    I can't see to many gangsters taking up this offer.....

    "Members of gangs in fear of their safety should come forward to the Gardai"

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/streets-of-fear-city-on-tenterhooks-as-pictures-emerge-of-eddie-hutch-snrs-bullet-ridden-home-after-fatal-shooting-34436023.html


  • #999
    Leroy Brown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 830 ✭✭✭Leroy Brown


    Gamebred wrote: »
    So theres no organised crime in singapore or gangland killings?
    I googled it for you
    How did Singapore manage to eradicate organized crime completely given that all the other major cities still have this social problem today?
    Ask any Singaporean or foreigner who have lived there for at least 5 years.
    No-one disagrees. How did Singapore do it?

    Organized crime refers to crimes associated with violence, Mafia and Triads.
    Not the white-collar crimes like football match-fixing, stock market manipulation where money is stolen but no violence is committed.

    Kris Lim, Living in the Little Red Dot

    It's actually due to several reasons:
    • A generally law abiding society.
    • Low unemployment rate. Basically if you are willing to work, there will be work to be done. There are less 'desperate' people in Singapore.
    • High risk of being caught. The police is efficient and low crime rate means that any new crime is investigated swiftly.
    • High incorruptibility of the police and law.
    • Above point encourages whistle blowers and tip-offs from the public without fear of being silenced.
    • Weapons are highly inaccessible due to high penalties for possessing firearms.
    • High penalties, eg death penalty may be meted out for:

    • Under the Penal Code, the commission of the following offences may result in the death penalty: [1]
    • Waging or attempting to wage war or abetting the waging of war against the Government
    • Offences against the President’s person (in other words, treason)
    • Mutiny
    • Piracy that endangers life
    • Perjury that results in the execution of an innocent person
    • Murder
    • Abetting the suicide of a person under the age of 18 or an "insane" person
    • Attempted murder by a prisoner serving a life sentence
    • Kidnapping or abducting in order to murder
    • Robbery committed by five or more people that results in the death of a person
    • Drug trafficking
    • Unlawful discharge of firearms, even if no one is injured
    • Rape
    And harsh minimum penalties for eg. gang-robbery:

    The penalty for gang-robbery is imprisonment for not less than five years and not more than 20 years, and also caning with not less than 12 strokes. [2]

    Singapore is a small country, only 700+ square kilometres . Once you commit a crime and the airport is alerted, there is nowhere for you to hide and due to Singapore being the world's busiest transshipment port, her waters are under constant surveillance and patrolled 24hrs.
    https://www.quora.com/How-did-Singapore-manage-to-eradicate-organized-crime-completely-given-that-all-the-other-major-cities-still-have-this-social-problem-today


  • #1000
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Gamebred wrote: »
    Theres 3 gardai at least involved in that post saving a swan,the guy in picture the guy taking it and the person on the social media account taking time to post it,it also happens to be in Dublin 8 where suspected gangland criminals have been meeting,


    Thats 3 wages that could be used putting gardai where they are needed on the streets not saving swans or posting on twitter.

    So what? Don't be an idiot and suggest they do nothing else.


  • #1001
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,808 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    The Gardai can't win.
    If they chase a suspect in a car and the suspect or a member of the public dies. They'd be people saying why we're they chasing it's a disgrace.
    If the Gardai didn't chase and the suspect crashed the same people would be saying why weren't the Gardai in pursuit.
    Same thing goes with that Garda with the Swan. If the Garda Traffic core left the Swan on the road to assist last night and an accident happened people would be whinging on why didn't they do something it's there job. There the traffic cops.


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  • #1002
    RainyDay
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,925 ✭✭✭RainyDay


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Yeah the whole "due process" thing is just way overrated. Bring back internment and be done with it.

    Yeah, that worked so well in the North in the 70s, it only resulted in a few thousand more deaths over the next 30 years - let's give it another shot...


  • #1003
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,944 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    RainyDay wrote: »
    Yeah, that worked so well in the North in the 70s, it only resulted in a few thousand more deaths over the next 30 years - let's give it another shot...


    Well i was being sarcastic. i hope you were too.


  • #1004
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,281 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Yes but people got through before him.

    Francis fitzgerald confirmed this yesterday.

    The gards were there in 60 seconds of the first call getting through.

    Your man seems to think he is some celebrity all ever the radio and news.

    Do you have a source for this?


  • #1005
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,387 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    barney4001 wrote: »
    grasping at straws again as usual

    Me or Enda?? :p


  • #1006
    tramoreman77
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 395 ✭✭tramoreman77


    kupus wrote: »
    I said it here on boards before, i feel safer walking down any ghetto in america(daylight hours) than walking in around dublin.

    THe reason you start with gum and other little crimes is that the people doing it are more likely to get involved in bigger crimes as they progress up the ladder, nip it in the bud.
    Also it gets cops info they might not have known from some young fella running his mouth in the station while waiting for his id to show up.

    And tramore man, since youre so worldy and traveled tell us your suggestions that you have.

    Suggestions from playing xbox games not included.
    Haha,very good ..but I'm more of a PlayStation man..your living your life by mainstream media and your more likely a keyboard warrior then a real man with a real voice ,who wouldn't even know what article 40.3.1 is ,so my advice is for you to walk down clondalkin and tallaght and express your ideas in person .


  • #1007
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,406 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    They pick out the easier jobs. They revel in them. They still mount speeding checkpoints. They love bagging drivers in sneaky areas. Shooting fish in a barrell.

    Ah now I know. Bit of an OG there Ally :pac: Slow down son.


  • #1008
    Ally Dick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,757 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    The Gardai can't win.
    If they chase a suspect in a car and the suspect or a member of the public dies. They'd be people saying why we're they chasing it's a disgrace.
    If the Gardai didn't chase and the suspect crashed the same people would be saying why weren't the Gardai in pursuit.
    Same thing goes with that Garda with the Swan. If the Garda Traffic core left the Swan on the road to assist last night and an accident happened people would be whinging on why didn't they do something it's there job. There the traffic cops.

    All ifs buts and maybes. Just like the mentality of the cops, or rather their representative organisation. Plenty of excuses why they can't do something


  • #1009
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,406 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    All ifs buts and maybes. Just like the mentality of the cops, or rather their representative organisation. Plenty of excuses why they can't do something

    They seem to be able to catch speedsters :pac:


  • #1010
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,270 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I know this is maybe way left of field. But I hate when you hear the likes of Bishop dermuid martin, condemning the killers and the affects on the children.

    ask him to do his bit regarding ousting all the rapists and paedos of the cloth and he's quiet as a virgin in a confession box!!!!

    sorry back on topic!


  • #1011
    JustTheOne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭JustTheOne


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Do you have a source for this?

    Heard them talking about it on Matt Cooper yesterday.

    Francis fitz said it yesterday morning at her press conference.

    http://utv.ie/News/2016/02/08/Continuity-IRA-claim-Dublin-hotel-murder-53646


    Speaking on Monday, Justice Minister Francis Fitzgerald defended the response of Gardaí to the attack, saying members of the force were dispatched within one minute of receiving a 999 call.


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  • #1012
    josephryan1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 669 ✭✭✭josephryan1989


    rusty cole wrote: »
    I know this is maybe way left of field. But I hate when you hear the likes of Bishop dermuid martin, condemning the killers and the affects on the children.

    ask him to do his bit regarding ousting all the rapists and paedos of the cloth and he's quiet as a virgin in a confession box!!!!

    sorry back on topic!

    Every Irish institution who can throw their weight behind the fight against these sinister anti-democratic gangs has to be welcomed no matter their obvious short comings.


  • #1013
    LostinBlanch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭LostinBlanch


    JustTheOne wrote: »
    Heard them talking about it on Matt Cooper yesterday.

    Francis fitz said it yesterday morning at her press conference.

    http://utv.ie/News/2016/02/08/Continuity-IRA-claim-Dublin-hotel-murder-53646


    Speaking on Monday, Justice Minister Francis Fitzgerald defended the response of Gardaí to the attack, saying members of the force were dispatched within one minute of receiving a 999 call.

    More self serving rubbish from an incompetent minister. She even said it was a good thing that there weren't any guards there in a desperate attempt to spin herself out of any responsibility for the fact that there were no guards around despite the fact that in previous weigh ins there was trouble. Sure why were so many crime journos there? :rolleyes:

    But Fitzgerald comes out and says the guards had no intelligence that there would be any trouble. Despite the fact that one fella was nearly shot at a similar weigh in at the Red Cow and only survived when the assassins gun jammed. Yeah right.

    The fact is that neither Fitzgerald, nor Noirin O'Sullivan could care less about this until it blew up in their faces.


  • #1014
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,944 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    LostinBlanch wrote: »
    More self serving rubbish from an incompetent minister. She even said it was a good thing that there weren't any guards there in a desperate attempt to spin herself out of any responsibility for the fact that there were no guards around despite the fact that in previous weigh ins there was trouble. Sure why were so many crime journos there? :rolleyes:

    Its a good thing there were no unarmed guards around. If there were they would probably be dead.

    LostinBlanch wrote: »
    But Fitzgerald comes out and says the guards had no intelligence that there would be any trouble. Despite the fact that one fella was nearly shot at a similar weigh in at the Red Cow and only survived when the assassins gun jammed. Yeah right.

    The fact is that neither Fitzgerald, nor Noirin O'Sullivan could care less about this until it blew up in their faces.

    the incident with the gun jamming took place at the fight not the weigh-in.


  • #1015
    Hitchens
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,100 ✭✭✭Hitchens


    it's up to the grannies and mammies now, according to the little bishop person :rolleyes:


  • #1016
    shugy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭shugy


    Start with fines for spitting out chewing gum! I seriously haven't laughed as much in my life as I did when I read that post lol. The Irish sure are thick as fcuk!


  • #1017
    Flint Fredstone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,519 ✭✭✭Flint Fredstone


    shugy wrote: »
    Start with fines for spitting out chewing gum! I seriously haven't laughed as much in my life as I did when I read that post lol. The Irish sure are thick as fcuk!

    Yeah the Irish can be summed up by one anonymous persons opinion on a message board :rolleyes:


  • #1018
    Irelandcool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 266 ✭✭Irelandcool


    All we need now is a dark vigilante running around after the death of parents by violent crime and then we have batman.


  • #1019
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,464 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Gangland needs a good looking bastard!
    They are all ugly as ****!


  • #1020
    Supernintento Chalmers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Supernintento Chalmers


    Bam Bam Mickey wrote: »
    Gangland needs a good looking bastard!
    They are all ugly as ****!

    Can see the nicknames already.

    "Pretty Boy"
    "Face"
    "The Heartbreak Kid"
    "Bronzed Adnois"
    "Mr. Perfect"
    "Ravishing Rob"


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  • #1021
    blinding
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Our glorious governments of the last 30 years have presided over the Great Expansion of what they call Gangland. They will be looking for your vote for this Achievement !

    Rural Crime has Escalated in such a Manner that many Elderly People are terrified in their own Homes.

    Our Politicians will be looking for your Vote for this Accomplishment !

    Think carefully about your vote and If you Keep Voting for the fg/ff/lab permanent government do not be surprised if you get the Same Result !


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