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Athlone ¾ Marathon, Sunday 4th Oct 2015 at 10:30am

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  • #2
    tang1
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    Great race, literally passes my family home front door. Shall be on marsalling duties again this year.


  • #3
    KJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭KJ


    I've just signed up. i figured what better way to prepare for the marathon than by doing a 3/4 marathon.


  • #4
    Pink11
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭Pink11


    I'd love to do this but the date doesn't suit.

    Are there any other 3/4 marathon's in Ireland? I can't find any.


  • #5
    bazman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭bazman


    Pink11 wrote: »
    I'd love to do this but the date doesn't suit.

    Are there any other 3/4 marathon's in Ireland? I can't find any.

    The first and still the only one in Ireland :-)


  • #6
    Dublin9210
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭Dublin9210


    Great event and hope to do this one.Will probably run 15-20 seconds per mile slower than marathon pace.Great race for preparing for the big day and the art of taking on water/gels during the race.Really well run by runners who know how to put on a great race.

    Would highly recommend for first time marathon runners.


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  • #7
    Jakey Rolling
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    Must admit I've never seen that race distance before. I'm sure if they billed it as an "Ultra Mini Marathon" they would double the numbers competing!

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



  • #8
    bazman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭bazman


    Best to enter today if you're going to join us for this run.

    Entry price goes up at midnight tonight.

    We've also just set up discount code for an Irish Runner promo that will be running on next magazine, but it should work today for a €5 discount on top of lower price.

    Code: IRISHRUNNER


  • #9
    MisterDrak
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    Im in and looking forward to it...

    Just checked my training log and haven't run this long since DCM 13, should be fun in the latter stages...


  • #10
    averagejoe123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭averagejoe123


    bazman wrote: »
    Best to enter today if you're going to join us for this run.

    Entry price goes up at midnight tonight.

    We've also just set up discount code for an Irish Runner promo that will be running on next magazine, but it should work today for a €5 discount on top of lower price.

    Code: IRISHRUNNER

    Signed up today using the code. I've heard good things so looking forward to this.


  • #11
    ooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭ooter


    Wouldn't be familiar with athlone at all, would the 0800 train from Dublin (arriving at 0920) leave me enough time to get to the start area?


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  • #12
    tang1
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    ooter wrote: »
    Wouldn't be familiar with athlone at all, would the 0800 train from Dublin (arriving at 0920) leave me enough time to get to the start area?

    Not when they want you there for 9.30am, the race start is a good twenty minutes from the train station. Drop the organisers an email about what time the bus pick up from the train station is at Sunday morning.


  • #13
    ooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭ooter


    tang1 wrote: »
    Not when they want you there for 9.30am, the race start is a good twenty minutes from the train station. Drop the organisers an email about what time the bus pick up from the train station is at Sunday morning.

    Sorry, didn't know about having to be there for 0930, just seen that it was a 1030 start.
    Thanks


  • #14
    bazman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭bazman


    ooter wrote: »
    Wouldn't be familiar with athlone at all, would the 0800 train from Dublin (arriving at 0920) leave me enough time to get to the start area?

    We will have a bus waiting at the train station for this arrival to bring you to the hotel to register and race. It would have to be over 30mins late to miss the start. We are aware of this train and will have c. 10 on the train, so we will hold registration open to facilitate those travelling by public transport.

    We do have a 10:30 start this year, but generally all our public transport folk are on the premises before 10am.


  • #15
    bazman
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    Fleece this year guys. We reckon this will be very useful for the winter training months. You can see it on our facebook page
    https://www.facebook.com/athlone3quartermarathon

    We'll sell out shortly. Enter by tomorrow to get personalised race number.


  • #16
    brennarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭brennarr


    Just registered for the 3/4 this evening. Looking forward to it.

    Have heard how great this race is great for preparing for the big day.


  • #17
    MisterDrak
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    Any locals know the story around parking in the area ?

    Given that Im driving down from Dublin before, I want to ensure I have enough time to get parked up, warmed up etc.


  • #18
    tang1
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    MisterDrak wrote: »
    Any locals know the story around parking in the area ?

    Given that Im driving down from Dublin before, I want to ensure I have enough time to get parked up, warmed up etc.

    Parking at race headquarters in Glasson Golf Club, keep the t-shirt on this time and don't be scaring the locals!!!


  • #19
    bazman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭bazman


    MisterDrak wrote: »
    Any locals know the story around parking in the area ?

    Given that Im driving down from Dublin before, I want to ensure I have enough time to get parked up, warmed up etc.

    While there will be sufficient parking, do allow time to get from car park to race HQ as it may be up to a 10min walk. There is very limited parking available at the hotel, with preference given to those with full cars.


  • #20
    Phoole
    Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭Phoole


    I'm trying to sign up with the code IRISHRUNNER, does anyone know if its still valid?


  • #21
    brennarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭brennarr


    Phoole wrote: »
    I'm trying to sign up with the code IRISHRUNNER, does anyone know if its still valid?

    Worked for me last night.


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  • #22
    Phoole
    Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭Phoole


    brennarr wrote: »
    Worked for me last night.

    works now... cheers!


  • #23
    Phoole
    Registered Users Posts: 378 ✭✭Phoole


    Signed up.. hoping this will be perfect prep for my first marathon! :eek:


  • #24
    Neady83
    Registered Users Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭Neady83


    Phoole wrote: »
    Signed up.. hoping this will be perfect prep for my first marathon! :eek:

    +1 I'm hoping to stay with the 4 hour marathon pacer at 9:40/mile pace. Last LSR before the big day


  • #25
    MisterDrak
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    tang1 wrote: »
    Parking at race headquarters in Glasson Golf Club, keep the t-shirt on this time and don't be scaring the locals!!![/QUOTE

    Cant promise anything is the temps rise on the day :)


  • #26
    Mr Jinx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Mr Jinx


    anyone got a spare entry going for this?


  • #27
    tang1
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    Best of luck to all doing this on Sunday, see yiz all just before mile 10. Look out for the signpost for tang, it does exist.


  • #28
    MisterDrak
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    Cheers T, ill have the shirt off just for you :cool:


  • #29
    averagejoe123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭averagejoe123


    How are people who are doing the Dublin marathon treating this race? Will any of you be racing flat out?

    I was thinking of 6 miles @ MP+1minute followed by the balance (say 14) @ MP? With Dublin 3 weeks away would this approach be too agressive?


  • #30
    dublin runner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    averagejoe123 wrote: »
    How are people who are doing the Dublin marathon treating this race? Will any of you be racing flat out?

    I was thinking of 6 miles @ MP+1minute followed by the balance (say 14) @ MP? With Dublin 3 weeks away would this approach be too agressive?

    I would recommend not to do any MP miles, instead use it as a long steady run. If you run do decide to run some marathon miles do so in the middle as the finish is a tough one.

    It's a race that if done too aggressively will tell come the marathon. A long steady run is a great session and won't leave you completely flogged. It's a challenging route so I think it's best to be cautious and not run it too hard.


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  • #31
    vanderlyle
    Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭vanderlyle


    averagejoe123 wrote: »
    How are people who are doing the Dublin marathon treating this race? Will any of you be racing flat out?

    I was thinking of 6 miles @ MP+1minute followed by the balance (say 14) @ MP? With Dublin 3 weeks away would this approach be too agressive?

    I did Moone last week. 16 miles at my target marathon pace. I'm looking to do something similar here. As I'm a novice, my MP is (hopefully) a touch on the conservative side, because I just don't know what those last few miles will do to me in the marathon. So it's a pace which enables me to get the MP miles done in Athlone without killing myself ahead of Dublin.

    For someone who is faster, more experienced, and in tune with their marathon pace, I don't think they'd consider running all of this at MP, and definitely not racing it flat out. It's too much and too close.


  • #32
    dublin runner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    vanderlyle wrote: »
    I did Moone last week. 16 miles at my target marathon pace. I'm looking to do something similar here. As I'm a novice, my MP is (hopefully) a touch on the conservative side, because I just don't know what those last few miles will do to me in the marathon. So it's a pace which enables me to get the MP miles done in Athlone without killing myself ahead of Dublin.

    For someone who is faster, more experienced, and in tune with their marathon pace, I don't think they'd consider running all of this at MP, and definitely not racing it flat out. It's too much and too close.

    But the 3/4 is a far tougher route in my opinion. I see where you are coming from regarding conservative marathon pace but I would seriously think twice about running it anywhere near marathon pace.

    Why would you want to do nearly 20 miles at MP? That's just way too much in my opinion. Save yourself for Dublin.


  • #33
    Neady83
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    averagejoe123 wrote: »
    How are people who are doing the Dublin marathon treating this race? Will any of you be racing flat out?

    I was thinking of 6 miles @ MP+1minute followed by the balance (say 14) @ MP? With Dublin 3 weeks away would this approach be too agressive?

    There's been a bit of discussion on this over on the Mentored Novices Thread about this. You can't go wrong with this advice from Myles Splitz and whoopsadaisydoodles

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97214373&postcount=5510

    I'm aiming for a 4 hour marathon so I'm going to do Athlone with the 4 hour marathon pacers doing it @ 9:40/mi


  • #34
    tang1
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    vanderlyle wrote: »
    I did Moone last week. 16 miles at my target marathon pace. I'm looking to do something similar here. As I'm a novice, my MP is (hopefully) a touch on the conservative side, because I just don't know what those last few miles will do to me in the marathon. So it's a pace which enables me to get the MP miles done in Athlone without killing myself ahead of Dublin.

    For someone who is faster, more experienced, and in tune with their marathon pace, I don't think they'd consider running all of this at MP, and definitely not racing it flat out. It's too much and too close.

    I won't comment on the MP debate, but being a local man the route is challenging to be honest with minimum flat bits, your constantly up and down for the 19 plus miles and that is going to take it out of you 3 weeks from DCM. On route alone i'd be erring on the side of caution.


  • #35
    Neady83
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    dublin runner wrote: »
    But the 3/4 is a far tougher route in my opinion. I see where you are coming from regarding conservative marathon pace but I would seriously think twice about running it anywhere near marathon pace.

    Why would you want to do nearly 20 miles at MP? That's just way too much in my opinion. Save yourself for Dublin.

    +1 don't leave your marathon in Athlone, save it for Dublin


  • #36
    dublin runner
    Registered Users Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    Neady83 wrote: »
    There's been a bit of discussion on this over on the Mentored Novices Thread about this. You can't go wrong with this advice from Myles Splitz and whoopsadaisydoodles

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=97214373&postcount=5510

    I'm aiming for a 4 hour marathon so I'm going to do Athlone with the 4 hour marathon pacers doing it @ 9:40/mi

    On Sunday it will be my 4th time running this race. If you can run the last mile at MP your MP is very conservative or you will kill yourself. The finish (just before the nice downhill) is a right bruiser. Normally I agree with Myles but in this case I wouldn't advise treating the race like that.


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  • #37
    vanderlyle
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    dublin runner wrote: »
    But the 3/4 is a far tougher route in my opinion. I see where you are coming from regarding conservative marathon pace but I would seriously think twice about running it anywhere near marathon pace.

    Why would you want to do nearly 20 miles at MP? That's just way too much in my opinion. Save yourself for Dublin.

    There's a couple of reasons:

    It would be my last seriously challenging run before the marathon. After this, the mileage starts to wind down and the only other run of note is one final slow run of 18+ miles. I've been recovering quickly lately and been managing niggles well, so I had thought there's plenty time to get the recovery in and the benefit before Dublin.

    It's a confidence thing too for me - sometimes I need the evidence (the finish time) to know that the pace/performance is there.

    I didn't realise the 3/4 was significantly harder - thanks for that. And sorry - I meant 16 miles at MP, which again I know, it's still a lot. I'll definitely consider limiting the effort now.


  • #38
    yaboya1
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    I ran the inaugural event (2010) at my PMP three weeks out from the DCM. It took that much out of me that I did virtually no running between then and DCM day itself. In the marathon, I got to 17m before the damage I had done to myself kicked in and I clung on about a minute per mile slower for the remaining 9.2 miles. I had previously completed 22m at my PMP before Athlone (also not advised), so I'm pretty sure I left my marathon in Westmeath as I knew I was capable of getting to at least 22 on target.

    It was only when I started to listen to people on here and stopped racing my training runs that I significantly improved my times. By all means if you want a fast 3/4 marathon time, race it, but I can guarantee you from experience that if you do that you will not do yourself justice in the DCM.


  • #39
    vanderlyle
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    For those who have done both the dublin marathon and this, which is the tougher route generally?


  • #40
    yaboya1
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    vanderlyle wrote: »
    For those who have done both the dublin marathon and this, which is the tougher route generally?

    Athlone is a tougher route by far, but Dublin is 25% longer :D


  • #41
    Firedance
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    vanderlyle wrote: »
    For those who have done both the dublin marathon and this, which is the tougher route generally?

    I had a much better experience in Athlone than Dublin last year, but that's what happens when you leave your marathon on the roads of Westmeath :rolleyes:


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  • #42
    dublin runner
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    vanderlyle wrote: »
    For those who have done both the dublin marathon and this, which is the tougher route generally?

    Glasson Athlone is. That's why it's a great training run for Dublin particular.

    There's nothing too bad in it, just a rolling course with virtually no flat running. My favourite course in Ireland.


  • #43
    Slogger Jogger
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    Looking forward to Sunday. 4th time doing it. Always a great event.


  • #44
    086Jazzy
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    Mr Jinx wrote: »
    anyone got a spare entry going for this?

    Hi, I've a spare entry if you need it. Pm me if you're interested


  • #45
    Animella
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    Glad I saw this thread now. Hadn't realised it was going to be very hilly. It will be my first 3/4 in preparation for first full thing in Dublin.
    Really looking forward tonit and hear it's a really well organised event.
    I'm disappointed there won't be pacers for anyone whose marathon time is going to be more than 4 hours though. I'd imagine the majority of first timers would fall into that category.
    I'm planning to take it slowly but not sure just how slowly. If my half marathon pace is almost 9 mins/ mile, should I do this at 10 min miles? Or even slower??


  • #46
    niallo32
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    Same as other posters, am hoping for a 4 hour DCM (my first marathon) - 5.41km - what pace would posters recommend for tomorrow so?


  • #47
    menoscemo
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    niallo32 wrote: »
    Same as other posters, am hoping for a 4 hour DCM (my first marathon) - 5.41km - what pace would posters recommend for tomorrow so?

    In your case, follow the 4 hour pacers. They will be going 5% slower than Marathon pace.
    In Animella's case, it's hard to tell based on the info posted. It should be about 5% slower than PMP (planned marathon pace) for a steady run, slower again if you just want to run easy.


  • #48
    niallo32
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    menoscemo wrote: »
    In your case, follow the 4 hour pacers. They will be going 5% slower than Marathon pace.
    In Animella's case, it's hard to tell based on the info posted. It should be about 5% slower than PMP (planned marathon pace) for a steady run, slower again if you just want to run easy.

    Thank for that, will do


  • #49
    KJ
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    niallo32 wrote: »
    Same as other posters, am hoping for a 4 hour DCM (my first marathon) - 5.41km - what pace would posters recommend for tomorrow so?

    I'm in the same boat as you. Hoping to do 4 hours for my first marathon as well.


  • #50
    Animella
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    menoscemo wrote: »
    In your case, follow the 4 hour pacers. They will be going 5% slower than Marathon pace.
    In Animella's case, it's hard to tell based on the info posted. It should be about 5% slower than PMP (planned marathon pace) for a steady run, slower again if you just want to run easy.
    My last long run which was supposed to be 18 miles went like this
    9:48
    10:05
    10:08
    12:03 uphill
    10:41
    9:49
    10:22
    9:34 downhill
    9:59
    10:03
    10:13
    10:21
    10:56
    13:08 - massive hill
    9:41 - downhill
    9:53
    10:47
    Then 5:41 for 0.5 miles and completely ran out of fuel and walked last half mile. I was quite comfortable until then but suddenly felt really weak

    Average pace 10:28
    Should I stick to that pace tomorrow?


  • #51
    dublin runner
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    If it's coming up your first marathon I would suggest that running the 19.6 miles at an easy pace. That would be a great long run session. Don't worry about the pace and simply keep the effort nice and controlled. That's what I did before my first DCM.

    Remember it's a training run! No one remembers their 3/4 marathon PB but we all remember each and every one of our marathon times, paticularly the first. Enjoy it!


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