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Athlone 3/4 Marathon

  • 03-07-2010 07:01PM
    #1
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    This is a strange one...

    http://www.athlone3quarter.com/

    Rate this race based on, Scenery, PB potential, Atmosphere, Value, Organisation 18 votes

    5 stars (excellent)
    0%
    4 stars (good)
    55%
    DigiJemhot to trotRAL3MagnettunguskaBirrocRunonewonEmployerBrokenMankciaran 10 votes
    3 stars (average)
    44%
    yaboya1JimhOisin11178Oasis44kandikaneseanin4711SDARBSMarthastew 8 votes
    2 stars (poor)
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    1 star (terrible)
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭Sosa


    This is a strange one...

    http://www.athlone3quarter.com/

    nice pic of the golf course ? ? ? ?

    Ideal 3 weeks before Dublin if you wanted to rattle out a long pmp session....


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,368 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    And only 29 yoyos if you book in groups of 5. Most marathon plans would have 20 miles in for that week too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Nialloooo


    brillant idea, suprised no one thought of it before, think ill be using it as one of my 20 mile lsr for dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    4 stars (good)
    This is brilliant, perfect session right before the Dublin marathon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,527 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Some familiar names on the contact page too. Nice to see them linking back to Boards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,608 ✭✭✭donothoponpop


    Some familiar names on the contact page too. Nice to see them linking back to Boards.

    +1. "By runners for runners", is always a good sign so far as organization is involved. Previous events by PM ("excuseless" on Boards) have gotten the thumbs up around these parts, so best of luck to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,197 ✭✭✭elvis jones


    hmmm,

    I'm working until 4am the night before but if i can get some sleep on the sat during the day i might go for this !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Some familiar names on the contact page too. Nice to see them linking back to Boards.

    It's the ROAR crowd isn't it, they did a good job on the West Wicklow ROAR and it's looking good for Achill at the end of the summer too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,527 ✭✭✭✭Krusty_Clown


    Given that the organizers are both posters, they should answer that question, but there are a number of events lists on their website.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 254 ✭✭Excuseless


    To answer your question Racoon Queen:- The 3/4 Marathon is indeed being organised by myself and Bazman of fast running fame.
    It is placed in the calendar to suit those doing Dublin and New York a few weeks later so we are hopeful it will prove popular and useful part of most training plans.

    Other events listed on the left of my website are in association with various others:-
    e.g. The West Wicklow and Achill Roar events are in conjunction with Total Experience

    The shared google calendar on the site gives listing of various events that may be of interest to boardies not just the ones I am involved in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 436 ✭✭searay


    I live about a mile from the course and much of it would feature on my training rides. You'll need good quads for the course. It is quite hilly and the hills are spread out. Primarily on country roads with a scenic finish. The climb up through Ardnagrath is about a mile long and you'll feel the burn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭ElectraX


    Looking forward to this one. Its a great idea, surprised nobody thought of it before. Just a pity that its clashing with the Causeway Coast(same weekend). But sure u can't do all of them:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,029 ✭✭✭DigiJem


    4 stars (good)
    Signed up for this during the week. Good idea, perfect timing for the 20 mile lsr for DCM training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭village runner


    These are all the rage in the UK.

    But why didnt they go 4 weeks or even 5 weeks before the marathon. That way runners could do it at pmp. 3 weeks might be a little tight.
    Would love one of these 5 weeks before berlin.

    Not knocking it as its a great idea.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 254 ✭✭Excuseless



    But why didnt they go 4 weeks or even 5 weeks before the marathon. That way runners could do it at pmp. 3 weeks might be a little tight.
    Would love one of these 5 weeks before berlin.

    Not knocking it as its a great idea.

    Rather difficult to get a date that suits all but we did consider other dates for sure.

    Half M in the Park is on 5 weeks before DCM (19/09) - This event is very popular as a DCM prep race and is sure to be this year too, need to allow some recovery after, etc.
    Hence the date decision for 3 weeks before DCM - ideal for almost all marathon training plans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭bazman


    Due to local access considerations and safety concerns we've had to make the unfortunate decision to drop the relay option for this event. Apologies for the inconvenience to anyone who was planning on entering a team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭pdiddyw


    Can anyone shed some light on the actually course route.......?

    I am training for the marathon for the first time and see this as ideal prep.....but to be honest that last thing I want to do is enter a race , especially a distance I've never run before "19 + miles"..and find that there is alot of hills.......if anyone could shed some light on this I'd be grateful...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    4 stars (good)
    pdiddyw wrote: »
    Can anyone shed some light on the actually course route.......?

    I am training for the marathon for the first time and see this as ideal prep.....but to be honest that last thing I want to do is enter a race , especially a distance I've never run before "19 + miles"..and find that there is alot of hills.......if anyone could shed some light on this I'd be grateful...

    I recieced this e-mail from one of the race organisers:

    It is an undulating course, but there are no serious hills. You will climb/descend in the order of about 200m over the entire course, which is not much over 20 miles. It's designed as a Dublin marathon prep event & in this regard it is ideal as Dublin marathon isn't flat either ...
    We're still in contact with local gardai to finalise the course, but be assured that we will be doing our best to keep the course flat.

    I think anybody running the Dublin marathon would be mad not to do this race, its perfect prep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭pdiddyw


    thanks for feedvback... appreicated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭ElectraX


    I went online today to enter this race and was surprised to see that the entry fee has gone up to €59 as it is considered a "late entry" in September. This is not an established event like the Dublin City Marathon, and therefore I don't think you should be copying their format of raising the entry fee each month as the race gets nearer. Surely you are trying to encourage as many people to enter as possible, and hiking up the prices is not going to help with this.Alot of people would plan on using this as training towards the Dublin Marathon, and given as that event is over €80 to enter, another €59 for a race three weeks beforehand is just too steep for alot of people in the current climate.Pity cause it looks like a great event, and I have no doubt it will be very efficiently organised, but I think the race price should have remained at €39 especially as its the first time this is being run.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    The thing is that's the norm these days. I'm not defending or condemning it but all events I've entered this year have had a similar pricing structure and many others I've looked at do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 wilson8862


    ElectraX wrote: »
    I went online today to enter this race and was surprised to see that the entry fee has gone up to €59 as it is considered a "late entry" in September. This is not an established event like the Dublin City Marathon, and therefore I don't think you should be copying their format of raising the entry fee each month as the race gets nearer. Surely you are trying to encourage as many people to enter as possible, and hiking up the prices is not going to help with this.Alot of people would plan on using this as training towards the Dublin Marathon, and given as that event is over €80 to enter, another €59 for a race three weeks beforehand is just too steep for alot of people in the current climate.Pity cause it looks like a great event, and I have no doubt it will be very efficiently organised, but I think the race price should have remained at €39 especially as its the first time this is being run.

    Snap. Was also keen on running this, but not at that price. Race directors are shooting themselves in the foot, imo....Can't see too many takers at e59.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    It isn't just races that do this. Conventions often have a graded pricing structure too. The reasoning is most likely the same - these are expensive events that have a lot of up-front costs. If they're paying money out three months in advance, but not getting money in until two weeks before the race, that's a problem. Also, if you have a steady trickle of people booking you can make an educated guess how many people will be there on the day, which means how much stuff you'll need, how many stewards, etc, etc. If you don't make it attractive to book early, you don't get that information in advance, you get most of the runners booking in the last few weeks.

    Don't look at it as a price hike for booking late - I'd guess the current cost is close to the 'real' cost - it's more of a discount for early birds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    4 stars (good)
    60 quid is a bit cheeky, especially for the first year of the event. The lads running the event are experieced racers themselves so its hard to imagine why the costs are so high. Maybe theres a good explanation, Id like to hear what they have to say in relation to the entry fee.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,454 ✭✭✭hf4z6sqo7vjngi


    Cannot seem to find the start time for this?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 254 ✭✭Excuseless


    The pricing "structure" has been a difficult one to do for this race for sure.

    If the entry was €29 and somone told me we would get say 2,000 entered we would be happy but unfortunately as a first time event we do not have the luxury of knowing how many will enter.

    As Ray Cun says, organisers need to get a good idea of anticipated numbers early on to try to get a handle on items to be purchased well in advance like race shirts and the likes or risk getting stung big time on un-used stock that have little value apart from to race participants.

    We have tried to get as many as possibe to enter early by offering an early bird of €39/hd up to 31st July with a group (5+) discount to allow entry for €29/hd which essientially is a known loss leader to try to drum up interest in the event, provide for groups of friends, clubs, etc.
    When the early bird was finished the regular entry was set to run up to 31st Aug was then €49 with the €39 available to 5+ groups

    It is only by having a change in entry prices that folk come out of the woodwork and enter in general.
    This is the trend for many events (evidence by for example the big sell on Electric Picnic tickets in the last 10 days!) in the current climate as no-one wants to risk their hard earned cash until the last minute where possible.

    Bazman and I have first-hand experience of this as we both are regular participants in races.

    We agree that 4 weeks in advance is probably a bit early to have a late entry price particularly as many are only finding out about the event now via the Irish Runner that was delivered early this week, flyers at Longford and Galway last weekend, etc.
    We have changed the entry cost to keep the regular entry price at €49/hd until midnight on Monday 20th Sept with the 5+ group rate of €39/hd applicable until then also.
    We have already given on-line refunds of €10 to anyone who has paid the full €59 price since 1st September.

    We know from many of the entries recieved so far that there is extensive use of discount codes to reduce the price from that shown so average prices paid for entries is to date is less than €40 out of which also comes Active Europe's commission.
    We don't add this onto your entry fee as sometimes is the case.
    The bottom line fact is that we don't expect to make money from the event this year but if the folk that do come, enjoy the race and feel they get value for money then the numbers will increase in subsequent years.

    This would be somewhat similar to the recent Tulfarris 10 event which folk that participated in felt was well run and great value and we hope that it will be viable next year with increased numbers.

    At the end of the day we know the event has been well recieved by runners and definitely has a place in the calendar as a unique event.

    We want a decent crowd there to experience what we believe will be a good event and a really useful one in terms of Dublin Marathon preperation in particular so hopefully we will see lots of boardies and more there :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,608 ✭✭✭donothoponpop


    Fair play Excuseless, that level of disclosure could be a template for all commercial races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,545 ✭✭✭tunguska


    4 stars (good)
    Fair play Excuseless, thats very honest and upfront of you. I hope you get a decent turnout on the day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭BrokenMan


    4 stars (good)
    Fair play Excuseless, wish all race directors were as up front and willing to engage properly with people.

    I wasn't too sure if I would run this but its definitely on the list now.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 welsher


    I heard form a friend that the organisers where finalising the course....any update on this....hopefully there will not be too many hills!!!!
    Also is any first timers doing this?


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