Dublin is an unadulterated kip

Tarzana2 · 21-09-2015 09:04PM

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Love the wiki photo for Castlerea

The one for Knock is my favourite. A... roundabout.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IMG_KnockRbout2715.jpg

I mean, Knock is a kip but really?

BreadnBuddha · 21-09-2015 09:05PM

Brian from Bray wrote: »

Bray is a beautiful spot

Bray would be a lovely seaside town if it wasn't for the junkies and the scumbags.

They're not day trippers or blow-ins from Dublin either. Down by the dargle, main street and over to the train station and those dirt magnet arcades.

I lived there for years. The best and the worst, all in one place.

Turtyturd · 21-09-2015 09:07PM

Brian from Bray wrote: »

Bray is a beautiful spot

Boghall road with all it's beautiful junkies.

ArnoldJRimmer · 21-09-2015 09:08PM

Joe Duffy is right about O'Connell St and the surrounding area, its pretty depressing. But that said, the difference between the place now and the 1980's is night and day. Hopefully, something can be done to make it more welcoming for tourists and locals alike, but it looks like a long way to go. The Guinness Storehouse is in another pretty dismal area where as a tourist, you wouldn't want to get lost.

However, Dublin in general is a very pleasant city too visit. Dublin 2,4 and 6, Sandymount, Smithfield, Phoenix Park, Clontarf, IFSC/ dockland area etc are all very nice. Yes, there are a few junkies/ alco's hanging around, but I don't think its the epidemic that some people describe, and they generally keep themselves to themselves.

VinLieger · 21-09-2015 09:08PM

Joe was walking round parnell street what does he expect on the north side?

Tarzana2 · 21-09-2015 09:08PM

Candie wrote: »

I love Dublin. I think it's a shame the way planners have allowed O Connell Street to basically disintegrate into a shabby, shady mess of sex shops and fast food outlets, but overall Dublin is great. Sure there are no go areas and some problems, but every large city has those.

It isn't a kip, but more could be done to make the very centre more attractive and more upmarket for both the ambiance and the traffic on the main street of the capital.

Dubliners are the best, too.

Storefront rules just seem a bit inconsistent. Like, the SPAR at the corner of Dame Street and South Great George's Street is in nice gold lettering on a black background. But pretty much every other SPAR around the place is that gaudy red. And that's just one example!

Brian from Bray · 21-09-2015 09:10PM

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

Bray would be a lovely seaside town if it wasn't for the junkies and the scumbags.

They're not day trippers or blow-ins from Dublin either. Down by the dargle, main street and over to the train station and those dirt magnet arcades.

I lived there for years. The best and the worst, all in one place.

The majority of them are though. It's a nice spot but all the riff raff from Dublin like to venture down here and cause trouble which tarnishes Brays reputation.

BreadnBuddha · 21-09-2015 09:14PM

Brian from Bray wrote: »

The majority of them are. It's a nice spot but all the riff raff from Dublin like to venture down here and cause trouble which tarnishes Brays reputation.

Get away outta that. Bray has its own trouble makers and junkies, locally born and bred.

Dublin is a great city with culture and character that can't be imitated. It has its fair share of gougers but doesn't everywhere?

L'Enfer du Nord · 21-09-2015 09:23PM

Brian from Bray wrote: »

The majority of them are though. It's a nice spot but all the riff raff from Dublin like to venture down here and cause trouble which tarnishes Brays reputation.

Pfff... County Dublin: Little Bray and Shankhill maybe. There is also no shortage of blow-in heroine users coming into central Dublin other counties.

Riverireland · 21-09-2015 09:31PM

nullzero wrote: »

Junkies have ruined the city centre over recent years. Unsurprisingly at the same time when Garda resources have be slashed. Greater powers need to be given to Gardai to help them tackle this problem, unfortunately it does mean a new modern prison be built, but that goes for all criminality in the country, as prisons are over crowded and criminals cannot be housed and thus walk the streets with suspended sentences.

To be honest much as they drive me mad I believe they need to be helped with rehab centres rather than jailed. No one would want to live like that and I reckon a lot of them are victims of a system that they can't get out of. I socialise less and less in the city because of them though. Too easy to just call them junkies and scumbags, doesn't help with the problem at all.

Links234 · 21-09-2015 09:35PM

I always gotta chuckle at people who say that Dublin is a big city, and anyone who's spent any time outside of Ireland knows what I'm talking about, but you know what? Neither is it that much of a kip. Some parts of San Francisco would show you what a kip really looks like.

Simon2015 · 21-09-2015 09:36PM

newacc2015 wrote: »

Eg Capel Street was a kip 10 years ago. Now its full of decent bars and Restaurants.

I still woundn't feel comfortable walking down capel street late at night.

L'Enfer du Nord · 21-09-2015 09:46PM

The more I think about it, the more I realise that Duffy's sentiments are illinformed ****e.

Dublin has its problems, but the point is the city centre was a lot worse.

1) In 1916 and 1922 the north inner-city was shelled many building were destroyed and damaged.

2)c. 1911 a third of the population lived in tenements and slums, this fell gradually but it wasn't until the late 1960s that this ceased to be a significant issue.

3) 2 car bombs exploded in the O'Connell Street area in 1974 killing several people. As well as the immediate tragedy it took the streets (Parnell and Talbort) involved a long time to recover commercially.

4)In the 1960s and 1970s developers were allowed to build all kinds of crap in Dublin city centre, change the historic street scape and knock down historic buildings.

5) There seems to be more money now to maintain the mid 20th century public housing flat complexes built in the city centre than there was 20 years ago, most of them look a lot better than they did in the 1980s.

6) There are far more people living in the centre than there were c. 1980

7)This could have been built on the ILAC centre site: http://archiseek.com/wp-content/gallery/ireland-dublin/1081.jpg

If you dismiss Dublin as a Kip, you ought to have some specific criticisms and/or draw some comparisons with outer urban areas in Ireland and abroad. If you think sustance abuse and related problems are confined to Dublin city centre you are kidding yourself.

JustTheOne · 21-09-2015 09:49PM

Links234 wrote: »

I always gotta chuckle at people who say that Dublin is a big city, and anyone who's spent any time outside of Ireland knows what I'm talking about, but you know what? Neither is it that much of a kip. Some parts of San Francisco would show you what a kip really looks like.

Probably the same who think homelessness is exclusive to Ireland.

wakka12 · 21-09-2015 09:52PM

I feel like the only proud Dub on Boards sometimes. I travelled to dozens of capitals and big cities in Europe and I come back loving dublin more after every trip

suicide_circus · 21-09-2015 09:53PM

Bad planning and a lot on "unwell people" as Joe would put it but does the job as far as I'm concerned.

jonnny68 · 21-09-2015 09:54PM

Perhaps this overpaid **** might like to **** off and work somewhere else then

Tarzana2 · 21-09-2015 09:56PM

Links234 wrote: »

I always gotta chuckle at people who say that Dublin is a big city, and anyone who's spent any time outside of Ireland knows what I'm talking about, but you know what?

It's not an alpha city, but most cities aren't. It's a big city in an Irish context, being a primate city. And isn't actually that small by international standards except if you compare it to the Londons and Tokyos and Mexico Cities of this world.

Dublin feels like a proper city. London doesn't seem that different, despite being much much larger, because really it's a collection of smaller cities put together. The size doesn't always matter to how much a place seems like a city.

Links234 · 21-09-2015 09:59PM

JustTheOne wrote: »

Probably the same who think homelessness is exclusive to Ireland.

Yup, the homelessness in San Francisco was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen, it downright terrified me. The way they treat homeless people over there is insane, I never had culture shock like that in my life.

mars1995 · 21-09-2015 10:02PM

Is a dreambox any good

everlast75 · 21-09-2015 10:22PM

Frankly what this miserable f**ker has to say doesn't interest me in the slightest.

He has no concept of reality - akin to a politician. Old Red Joe is living the high life in RTE on a 6 figure salary.

He has an opinion on everything and a solution to nothing. The City Centre isn't perfect but that's why I love it. I lived in apartments for 5 years and loved every moment.

There are certain dodgy areas but name one city that doesn't.

Stay on the south side in the leafy suburbs Joe, where you're more comfortable.

ArnoldJRimmer · 21-09-2015 10:22PM

Links234 wrote: »

Yup, the homelessness in San Francisco was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen, it downright terrified me. The way they treat homeless people over there is insane, I never had culture shock like that in my life.

I was in San Fran for the weekend earlier this summer and got chatting to some locals in a pub. 'Oh I'm quarter Irish' etc. All very pleasant conversation until out of nowhere, the guy started into this hate filled rant about the homeless population. I live in the US, so I'm used to a lack of sympathy for the less fortunate, but this was unbelievable.

Being the argumentative so and so that I am, I said I didn't have a problem with it personally, I just felt sorry for them. And proceeded to get a cab back to my hotel near Union Square as the area in which it was in was scary as f00k :-)

The situation in Dublin, while concerning, is still nowhere near as bad as it is in other similar cities. And as I said in an earlier post, they're not causing much harm other than highlighting that Dublin is not squeaky clean. I'd be more worried about the little scrotes that are picking pockets and mugging people

ThisRegard · 21-09-2015 10:38PM

L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »

Pfff... County Dublin: Little Bray and Shankhill maybe. There is also no shortage of blow-in heroine users coming into central Dublin other counties.

I'm a big heroine user myself. I often find myself in perilous situations in which lovely ladies need to come to my aid.

In fairness, your points are very well made though, I agree completely.

WakeUp · 21-09-2015 10:59PM

Dublin is a great city and far from an unadulterated kip really thats a bit much. like most places its the people who make the place everyplace has its whatevers but I think Dublin is a great place to live myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV5QYfpKvEE

Cienciano · 21-09-2015 11:11PM

L'Enfer du Nord wrote: »

The more I think about it, the more I realise that Duffy's sentiments are illinformed ****e.

IF you regularly listened to Liveline, you'd know that pretty much every word out of his mouth is ill informed shíte

NachoBusiness · 21-09-2015 11:13PM

It's not a kip. It's just.. different.

Many changes undoubtedly have been for the best, but others, have not (the true price of which have yet to be seen).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9VMzdHaxcc

Yamanoto · 21-09-2015 11:59PM

newacc2015 wrote: »

Look at NYC. Time square was full of porn cinemas in the 1970s/1980s.

I'm not sure ESPN zone, M&M world & Planet Hollywood constitute much of an upgrade from the Jizz district of the 70's and 80's.

garrixfan · 22-09-2015 12:12AM

Most cities suck

joe swanson · 22-09-2015 12:14AM

Dublin has so much potential. Unfortunately the city centre has become over run with junkies and scobies which is a real buzzkill.

djflawless · 22-09-2015 12:20AM

joe swanson wrote: »

Dublin has so much potential. Unfortunately the city centre has become over run with junkies and scobies which is a real buzzkill.

And they will breed like vermin...
Like a parasite, eating its way from the core to the outer edges.
An Garda have enough of problems without having to keep the general public safe or preventing real crime.
Give it a few more years when the current city centre scums fledglings get to puberty and are tenfold

Dublin is an unadulterated kip

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