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TUF 22 - Europe vs USA (McGregor & Faber coaching)**Contains Spoilers**

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    #122
    Paully D
    Registered Users Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    JoeyJJ wrote: »
    Conor hardly there according to TJ
    https://youtu.be/fenNv6LdUxA

    He admitted so himself. He said he didn't want to do the show when it became apparent there was no coaches fight at the end (it was originally supposed to be Conor v Mendes) and that he made it quite clear he was only doing it now for Artem. He said at a media scrum (I'm paraphrasing) "I was there who I was said I was going to be there for, my team-mate".


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    #123
    Trabejo
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    Pretty big insult to Dana and the UFC. The guy should have the decency to pass on his wisdom to young up and coming fighters. I thought MMA was a lifestyle and that he respected everyone who take that journey? Seems like money went to his head.

    Hopefully he doesn't flip over any more tables full of drinks in Pygmalion now that he is back in Dublin.


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    #124
    slicus ricus
    Registered Users Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭slicus ricus


    What he said was that he was there to prepare them for the actual fights and get them in the right frame of mind for the fights and fighting in the UFC.

    He also said that there was no point in teaching the guys new techniques given the short format of the show, that they would be better off sticking to the techniques that got them there. He said that because the guys have already fought to get in the show and that there was a quick turnaround between fights, the key is to train smart and keep the body fresh and that he trusts his coaching team to do that.

    Here's an article that sums it up well:
    http://www.foxsports.com/watch/the-ultimate-fighter/story/ufc-conor-mcgregor-ultimate-fighter-doesn-t-plan-to-actually-train-his-fighters-on-tuf-090715

    Seems to me that he wants to focus on the mental side of it rather than the technical training. In fairness, having a guy as mentally strong as McGregor focusing on helping you with that would have to be of benefit to his team.


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    #125
    Exclamation Marc
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    Looks like it's starting on Wednesday night/Thursday morning

    :)


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    #126
    ASOT
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    Perfect I'm in work early Thursday so I can watch this on the bus on fight pass!


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    #127
    JustTheOne
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    Manufactured Miracle wrote: »
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    Looks like it's starting on Wednesday night/Thursday morning

    :)

    It's on bt Thursday at 10 o clock.


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    #128
    lertsnim
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    Setanta Ireland showing it Thursday at 10pm also.


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    #129
    Richy06
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    3e have it on next week too, I think.


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    #130
    Mellor
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    No sign of it over here. bollox


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    #131
    MartyMcFly84
    Registered Users Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭MartyMcFly84


    Pretty big insult to Dana and the UFC. The guy should have the decency to pass on his wisdom to young up and coming fighters. I thought MMA was a lifestyle and that he respected everyone who take that journey? Seems like money went to his head.

    Hopefully he doesn't flip over any more tables full of drinks in Pygmalion now that he is back in Dublin.

    Prize fighting in all about making money. Ideally you make as much as possible while you can and get out taking as little damage as possible.

    Its not a fantasy martial arts journey.


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    #132
    stiffler123
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    MartyMcFly84 wrote: »
    Prize fighting in all about making money. Ideally you make as much as possible while you can and get out taking as little damage as possible.

    Its not a fantasy martial arts journey.

    He's getting paid to be a coach though, he should be there or else not take the job.


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    #133
    John_D80
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    stiffler123 wrote: »
    He's getting paid to be a coach though, he should be there or else not take the job.

    That might be his title on the show, but he's getting paid because he will bring in big ratings consistently, something that TUF has been crying out for, for years now.


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    #134
    TheNap
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    MartyMcFly84 wrote: »
    Prize fighting in all about making money. Ideally you make as much as possible while you can and get out taking as little damage as possible.

    Its not a fantasy martial arts journey.


    Yet in boxing circles Mayweather gets abuse for it which i dont understand


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    #135
    stiffler123
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    John_D80 wrote: »
    That might be his title on the show, but he's getting paid because he will bring in big ratings consistently, something that TUF has been crying out for, for years now.

    Ya, you can do both though. Take Chael in Brazil as an example.


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    #136
    MartyMcFly84
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    He's getting paid to be a coach though, he should be there or else not take the job.

    If someone was to pay you for a job you didn't want to do regardless of how well you did it, would you really be that motivated to put all your time and energy into it?

    He is just coming off month and months of promotional obligations and training for a title fight. Then straight into TUFF which he admittedly has no interest in doing. Can you really blame the guy if he wanted to take his foot off the gas for a while?


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    #137
    Exclamation Marc
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    Given his ego as well, I'm sure he wanted to shy away from any responsibility for the outcomes of these guys.

    If his team is successful, all well and good and he'll credit the coaching but from what he's said he's firmly crediting the individuals with their own wins/losses.

    And if his team gets obliterated, he can stand back and say he was only there as a figurehead.


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    #138
    Foxtrol
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    It really depends on how they decide to edit the show. If he’s there at a few sessions plus weigh ins, pre-fight game planning, and fights then they could make it look like he was around all the time. Alternatively they could cut it that the fighters are complaining and minimise showing the tape of him in those situations.

    I’d say they’ll be somewhat wary of the stick Ronda got post show so they wont paint him in too bad a light. Either way though I don’t think it’ll phase Conor.


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    #139
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    What exactly happened with Rousey on the show, I've only heard bits and pieces that she grumpy or something?


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    #140
    Foxtrol
    Registered Users Posts: 11,048 ✭✭✭✭Foxtrol


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    What exactly happened with Rousey on the show, I've only heard bits and pieces that she grumpy or something?

    She was grumpy but it was more that her hatred towards Tate came through constantly. She was both a poor loser and poor winner throughout the competition and was in the middle of several unnecessary flash points. Her actions were only made worse by Tate appearing pretty friendly to her during the show (though I think a lot of that was purely for the camera) and Ronda threw it back in her face repeatedly.


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    #141
    Depp
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    Foxtrol wrote: »
    She was grumpy but it was more that her hatred towards Tate came through constantly. She was both a poor loser and poor winner throughout the competition and was in the middle of several unnecessary flash points. Her actions were only made worse by Tate appearing pretty friendly to her during the show (though I think a lot of that was purely for the camera) and Ronda threw it back in her face repeatedly.

    This!...only watched it recently and ronda comes off as a total b-word the whole way through...firmly on team Tate since!

    also, anyone know what time tonights episode airs at?


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    #142
    Zero-Cool
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    Depp wrote: »
    This!...only watched it recently and ronda comes off as a total b-word the whole way through...firmly on team Tate since!

    also, anyone know what time tonights episode airs at?

    3 am Irish time.

    I think UFC will be very careful with their editing this season. Most season has the coaches coming across bad and a lot complain about it. Conor is already a love/hate guy, I don't think ufc will want to offset that balance if the show puts him in a bad light.


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    #143
    Paully D
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    Will this be available on Fight Pass in the morning lads? Cheers.


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    #144
    stephenl15
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    Fxck me the first two elimination fights were very very impressive


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    #145
    stephenl15
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    What a joke. Artem without doubt won the first. I thought when they didn't bring it to a 3rd meant he had it in the bag


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    #146
    TimRiggins
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    Enjoyed the first show overall, the fights were very good. Think the Europeans have the stronger team. Thought Artems fight could have went another round but he can have no complaints really, went for a slugfest with a bigger guy and a quicker striker.


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    #147
    Foxtrol
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    stephenl15 wrote: »
    What a joke. Artem without doubt won the first. I thought when they didn't bring it to a 3rd meant he had it in the bag

    For those that don't watch the preview of the next episode
    Looks like he'll get in the back door by allowing 1 fighter to come back who was knocked out. Not sure how that'll work with numbers though. I'd say that was 100% something that Conor demanded to keep going with the show. The europeans are already saying how good a coach he is, definitely getting a favorable edit already.

    Overall good start to the season with some decent scraps and talent. It might just be me but there seemed to be less sob stories than I remember from other seasons. Wouldn't hold my breath though, there's a long season ahead.


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    #148
    ASOT
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    Not up on fight pass yet I'm disappointed


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    #149
    Whelo79
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    Does anyone know when this will be up on fight pass?


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    #150
    [Deleted User]
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    I will watch this tonight, have not watched TUF since season 6.
    I saw a 3 min clip of faber and conor getting at each other with white in between.

    if anyone saw this clip or didn't see it. go to the UFC website and click videos and watch it, maybe it's just me. near the end, conor asks faber to make an outside personal wager as to who would win in a fight, it's all a bit childish but ignore that and just really watch DANA Whites face and body language. you can see him pissed off big time with McGregor.. look at him tuning out staring into the air as if to say, "is this guy trying to make fights or promote something while on air." WTF>> he's vastly becoming too much here I think.


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    #151
    John_D80
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    Great start to the season. Got up early this morning just to watch the first episode. Great fights and great banter between McGregor and Faber.

    And oh my god, the only thing more impressive than 'THAT' heel hook, was the setup for that heel hook. Unbeleivable. Didn't spoiler tag that as I'm not mentioning names.

    Can mods please clarify, whats the deal with spoiler tags? Are we okay to mention names/results etc in this thread without spoiler tags once the episode has aired? Cant rightly remember the rules


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