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Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

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  • #9662
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Same here, give me a forest in Norway to mind with a cabin for me and a few animals with decent broadband. Ceasing to exist is continually appealing.


  • #9663
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Could be of interest to some of you
    http://www.my1000hours.com/me-and-my-mate-jeffrey-by-niall-breslin


  • #9664
    alaskayoung
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭alaskayoung


    Walking around earlier and I actually couldn't for the life of me remember where I had gone a few hours earlier. That's been happening quite a bit the past week or two. After my morning meds I'm in a complete daze. Can't even have proper conversations with people.


  • #9665
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    That's a little worrying, hopefully it passes or you need to chat with your doc.


  • #9666
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    greenfrogs wrote: »
    For some reason I usually cry when I go to my gp. Maybe that's why I didn't want to bring up the rough times. I didn't want to cry yet again.

    Maybe you could write down the anxious feelings as they come. A brief diary and then, show this to the doctors.

    Thats a good idea. Dont know if i have the bottle to tell them whats really going on in my head. They dont listen anyway.

    Living in the wilderness is something i fantasize about as well. Montana in the US looks good.

    http://www.dougroanephotography.com/Nature/Montana-Wilderness-1


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  • #9667
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Anyone else feel that even if their depression and anxiety were somehow cured, that their personality and personal situation would still be in a state of ruin?


  • #9668
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Anyone else feel that even if their depression and anxiety were somehow cured, that their personality and personal situation would still be in a state of ruin?

    Sometimes I believ it's affected too much of my personality or characteristics or what have you to be who I would have been if I was any other way. Funny enough the thought of being almost a completely different person frightens me..


  • #9669
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Gremlinertia wrote: »
    Sometimes I believ it's affected too much of my personality or characteristics or what have you to be who I would have been if I was any other way. Funny enough the thought of being almost a completely different person frightens me..

    Exactly. I wonder is this part of the reason why motivation is so hard to muster. Like what is the point if only to remain in a crap situation.


  • #9670
    freudiangirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭freudiangirl


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    That's been my way for years now. I just can't bring myself to tell the total truth at times. That being said, when I have volunteered more details, they're never really taken too seriously.

    I know that feeling. I think I try to convince both my psych team &myself that I am okay yet I am crumbling inside. I am a professional mask wearer.

    I agree on your second point re volunteering more details and not been taking seriously.

    I don't know I feel a fraud at best of timesm


  • #9671
    freudiangirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭freudiangirl


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Anyone else feel that even if their depression and anxiety were somehow cured, that their personality and personal situation would still be in a state of ruin?

    Ya .... totally


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  • #9672
    scrimshanker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 738 ✭✭✭scrimshanker


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Exactly. I wonder is this part of the reason why motivation is so hard to muster. Like what is the point if only to remain in a crap situation.

    I suppose the thing is, people in crap situations who aren't depressed are able to enjoy life all the same, have the energy to try make things better...


  • #9673
    freudiangirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭freudiangirl


    I need space ... just came into kitchen to get space. My nan and aunt came in and started talking. Seriously, the noise is ridiculous, between the lights ,chewing etc.
    I just want quiet for just 5 mins.
    They just seem so noisy and loud constantly. It's just din din din.
    I hate fact that I have no space on my own at all & I have to physically leave house and do stuff I order to escape.


    Aaaaaaargh!
    I need space ! Just so I can sit and have a cuppa in peace.


  • #9674
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Anyone else feel that even if their depression and anxiety were somehow cured, that their personality and personal situation would still be in a state of ruin?

    Absolutley Hugo i think my mental problems have become a large part of who i am.


  • #9675
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    I don't think an illness defines you. It affects you sure but it's not the only part of you. I know my outlook has changed but I think this is natural as you grow older and experience the world. I think mental illness clouds our perception. I know for myself all I could see was the anxiety, the anger, the general craziness and the feeling down. There are good parts to my personality. I can see that with posters here as well. I don't think it has affected our natural personality and characteristics. I think it has overpowered them. People here are kind, caring, empathetic and humorous as well. Underneath all this, you are still you.


  • #9676
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    scrimshanker wrote: »
    I suppose the thing is, people in crap situations who aren't depressed are able to enjoy life all the same, have the energy to try make things better...

    Even if magically cured, I'd fear the situation would set it all off again.
    mg1982 wrote: »
    Absolutley Hugo i think my mental problems have become a large part of who i am.

    Same here, friend.


  • #9677
    freudiangirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 345 ✭✭freudiangirl


    I think even if I didn't have depression or borderline, I would still be the way I am. I think (well in terms of schemas) ,it was how I was brought up and that has formed me in a way I won't be able to change. I have a few schemas which affect how I think

    I have accepted this. What I am right now, is probably the most honest version of me ever. Thing is people seem to be seeing me in a positive light than before.
    Now I don't feel like people seem to be seeing me, but I am feeling that this is real me and accept I won't be getting any better than I am.now. I am in truest form, people need to accept this. I am easily irritated,I hate bright light, loud noises or actually any noise at all, I seriously dislike crowds and I constantly need distraction. I am jittery, jumpy,depressed, don't want to be around people yet if I am on my own my thoughts can become dangerous actions

    It's one thing I have radically accepted.
    It is what it is


  • #9678
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    freudiangirl wrote: »
    It's one thing I have radically accepted.
    It is what it is

    If that I can't accept anything like that for myself though. I'm not much of a fighter it seems, but I can passively resist like nobody's business!


  • #9679
    alaskayoung
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭alaskayoung


    Mental illness has made up such a huge part of my life through my teenage years I don't really remember a before or know what my personality truly is. As much as I hate being and feeling like this, the thought of not having it almost scares me just as much as the thought of remaining the same. I self-sabotage myself constantly because I don't know who I am or feel enough of a person without it. I feel like I've let it become far too big a portion of my own identity. The idea of getting better is really terrifying to me as strange as that sounds because obviously it has brought me only pain and suffering.


  • #9680
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    alaskayoung wrote: »
    Mental illness has made up such a huge part of my life through my teenage years I don't really remember a before or know what my personality truly is. As much as I hate being and feeling like this, the thought of not having it almost scares me just as much as the thought of remaining the same. I self-sabotage myself constantly because I don't know who I am or feel enough of a person without it. I feel like I've let it become far too big a portion of my own identity. The idea of getting better is really terrifying to me as strange as that sounds because obviously it has brought me only pain and suffering.

    Well said, Alaska. The contradictionary nature of depression is a real head wreck.


  • #9681
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    My earlier post about being cured would largely only be a pipe dream anyway.


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  • #9682
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    I wonder if there is a cure per se though?. I'm just looking at developing better tools to manage things.. It's so hard to know, I just think there is a darker facet to my personality that has been allowed to grow for lack of knowledge about how to cope with it years ago. Now it's like ivy, probably more dangerous to eradicate it totally than manage it.. Maybe that's just wishful thinking..


  • #9683
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    Gremlinertia wrote: »
    I wonder if there is a cure per se though?. I'm just looking at developing better tools to manage things.. It's so hard to know, I just think there is a darker facet to my personality that has been allowed to grow for lack of knowledge about how to cope with it years ago. Now it's like ivy, probably more dangerous to eradicate it totally than manage it.. Maybe that's just wishful thinking..

    I know with bpd they say everyone has the bpd traits but, you just have the traits more than a regular person would. These traits are not going to be eradicated completely (with the exception of self harm), I think we just learn better coping techniques. So like you say there is no cure. There are tools to make life more manageable.

    When you say a darker facet to your personality what do you mean?


  • #9684
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Gremlinertia wrote: »
    I wonder if there is a cure per se though?. I'm just looking at developing better tools to manage things.. It's so hard to know, I just think there is a darker facet to my personality that has been allowed to grow for lack of knowledge about how to cope with it years ago. Now it's like ivy, probably more dangerous to eradicate it totally than manage it.. Maybe that's just wishful thinking..

    Who knows, Grem. Maybe they're still only in the infancy of tackling this. I hope some huge breakthrough is just around the corner though.

    Sorry guys, I'm just being a bit of a bummer this evening. Depression and the life it slowly fermented around itself can just be a little too much sometimes.


  • #9685
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Down myself tbh Hugo so you've got company.

    By darker facet I mean I think i was always prone to being slightly more pessimistic, or seeing the possible problems with things even as a child. Happy go lucky would never have applied to me..


  • #9686
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Gremlinertia wrote: »
    Down myself tbh Hugo so you've got company.

    By darker facet I mean I think i was always prone to being slightly more pessimistic, or seeing the possible problems with things even as a child. Happy go lucky would never have applied to me..

    Likewise, G.

    I suspect that this was always here, like the Cloverfield monster lying in slumber.


  • #9687
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    Gremlinertia wrote: »
    Down myself tbh Hugo so you've got company.

    By darker facet I mean I think i was always prone to being slightly more pessimistic, or seeing the possible problems with things even as a child. Happy go lucky would never have applied to me..

    No it wouldn't be used to describe me either. Looking back I can see certain signs that would predict what my future would be. I used cry so easily and be very dramatic. I didn't like socialising with kids I didn't know from school etc. Small things but issues which would become a major factor of my life. But then am I looking to see something that isn't there. But I do remember not being the happiest child.


  • #9688
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    Speaking of dark sides to our personalitys. Im watching a movie about the the end of the world and its giving me some comfort. Fcuked up i know. Maybe the bottle of wine im drinking doesnt help.


  • #9689
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    mg1982 wrote: »
    Speaking of dark sides to our personalitys. Im watching a movie about the the end of the world and its giving me some comfort. Fcuked up i know. Maybe the bottle of wine im drinking doesnt help.

    What movie is it, MG?


  • #9690
    greenfrogs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭greenfrogs


    mg1982 wrote: »
    Speaking of dark sides to our personalitys. Im watching a movie about the the end of the world and its giving me some comfort. Fcuked up i know. Maybe the bottle of wine im drinking doesnt help.

    I know this is judgmental but alcohol is a depressant. It really doesn't help the situation.


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  • #9691
    mg1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭mg1982


    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    What movie is it, MG?

    Its called The Happening its on film four.


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