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Willfarman wrote: »

I tried that but the constant bulling, the in calf ones, and worse of all the ones that don't grow. I like continental bullocks the best but I never pass friesians at the right money. The ease of management is the number one advantage of them.

Same here. Too many lads after the nice ones.

A big plain empty friesan with age . And let him go into weight and he will grade an o.

Robson99 wrote: »

I'd prefer to buy a 400kg continental heifer in Feb let her off to grass and kill following Jan. You should have 600 -700 gross profit and a lot quicker turnover

is that gross profit or gross margin. The real terminology is gross margin and net profit. Gross margin is the difference between buying and selling price, ideally selling and replacement price. Net margin is what is left after you allow for direct costs, grass, silage, ration, vet and medicine, mortality allowance, etc. Net profit is what you pay tax on;) that is up to you.

Not in a rush to turn over cattle as it is hard to make money on spring bought cattle. The other issue is capital tied up in the business. Most years 60 400kg heifers would force you to have 60-70K tied up in stock. 60 Fresians would have an average of 33-38K tied up in them most years this yera a bit different. generally I buy stores between Aug and Oct, last year I bought most in late october.

the cattle I sold today I bought last May/June I considered them value at the time. I saw no point in selling to replace with cattle that I might only break even with. I sold to turn over a few euro, If I could I have held for another month only one was a 4- rest were 3=/+. In a month they be 10-15kgs more flesh on each. Cattle really put on DW going from 3+ to 4-/= nearly ever gram they put on is flesh.

The JEx came in at 345 euro:)

Good loser wrote: »

Hi Puds. Were the over 36 month the same base price as the under 30/36 month bullocks please?

I had agreed with agent that there would be no age deduction off the base however will wait until the cheque comes there is often a mistake. On average every second docket has to be corrected

hedgecutting eddie wrote: »

Have 8 February 14 Angus bullocks av weight at home comes to 490 plus I've 6 fresian February 14 bullocks av weight 480 was thinking bringing to mart tomorrow I reared them from calves was never goin to winter them this year I've plenty of grass for now but these kinda cattle makin stupid money am I mad to b sellin now or wait till sept , I've a lot sheep so extra grass won't b wasted 😀

Let us know how it goes. We might all follow suit!

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

is that gross profit or gross margin. The real terminology is gross margin and net profit. Gross margin is the difference between buying and selling price, ideally selling and replacement price. Net margin is what is left after you allow for direct costs, grass, silage, ration, vet and medicine, mortality allowance, etc. Net profit is what you pay tax on;) that is up to you.

Not in a rush to turn over cattle as it is hard to make money on spring bought cattle. The other issue is capital tied up in the business. Most years 60 400kg heifers would force you to have 60-70K tied up in stock. 60 Fresians would have an average of 33-38K tied up in them most years this yera a bit different. generally I buy stores between Aug and Oct, last year I bought most in late october.

the cattle I sold today I bought last May/June I considered them value at the time. I saw no point in selling to replace with cattle that I might only break even with. I sold to turn over a few euro, If I could I have held for another month only one was a 4- rest were 3=/+. In a month they be 10-15kgs more flesh on each. Cattle really put on DW going from 3+ to 4-/= nearly ever gram they put on is flesh.

The JEx came in at 345 euro:)

Didn't realise there was such a big difference between gross profit and gross margin. Must have been missing that day.
I'd agree re the capital, a lot less tied up. Everyone has there own system. Impossible to say which is the better one.
Fatten both lowland and mountain lambs here over the winter. Lowland ones put on weight quicker, carry more weight and have faster turnaround. However less capital tied up with mountain ones. We always like to go 50 -50 with them. I suppose cattle should be the same

hedgecutting eddie wrote: »

8 Angus 493 kg s made €1090
6 fresians 480 kg made €1040
Thought I'd get a little more for Angus very happy how they weighed for Feb/March 14 stock

Do not usually buy AA but there were ok at that for the buyer. AA that have goo weight for age continue to thrive and put on weight fast. A finisher would have had different options finish off grass and meal in November (high AA bonus rate) at maybe 620 kgs LW ( about 315 DW) or house in late ovtober and finish out of the shed in January at 680 ish kgs LW ( 360ish kgsDW). They might even do better than that. My own inclination would be to finish off grass and meal.

Killed a LMX FR in Slaney yesterday 740kg live died 378.3 R-4- @ 3.90KG
1459.99 on the cheque hope that helps

RobinBanks wrote: »

What sort of are dry cows going in factory. Have a few between 750-800kg but they don't have a great fat cover yet.

Wondering will I go soon or hold for another couple of months

If they were mine I think I'd be heading to the mart with them asap while prices are good. Mastitis is a big risk from now on with dry cows too.

just do it wrote: »

And every second mistake is in your favour no doubt (tongue fully in check) :rolleyes:

On the laws of averages taht is what you would expect but:rolleyes: it like bingo check your tickets folks

Willfarman wrote: »

Savage weights for age. As you say the friesians brought great Monet. Thee aa a little short but you couldn't bring em home at it either. Is that kilkenny mart?

Yea kk mart bigger sale today than previous wks I reckon if Angus were a little leaner wud have been better sellers

hedgecutting eddie wrote: »

Yea kk mart bigger sale today than previous wks I reckon if Angus were a little leaner wud have been better sellers

If they were flesh they be very easily finished this year you would also get a good killout. A leaner animal would be hanging around longer. With good grass and a little meal it would be possible to kill mid late november off grass. They leave a nice few euro in les than 150 says.

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ennis yesterday
Charolais 740Kg - €1750, he had a bit of a belly
From talking to people they said prices were good all round.

Was he near the 30 months?

Count Mondego wrote: »

Was he near the 30 months?

Can't remember, it didn't seem to matter from what I saw. Finished cattle are scarce, I think.

Fr bull 1000 kg live 3 half years bsc 3 what's he worth
Bb HF 450 kg
2 fr HF twins 360 kg what would they make

mahoney_j wrote: »

Question for pudsey and co .i have 9 fr bullocks feb14 and one March 14 .average weight about 440 kg.on an outside block and gone into after grass this am.thriving very well..could keep them till mid to late August but got to go then to build up grass for weanlings for back end..no meal since early feb and on grass since early March .would it be worth my while to start giving these 2 kg rolled barley for next few weeks along with aftergrass or no meal??.or would u off load now..reckon they'd make 2 euro a kg in mart at moment but trade had no sign of weakening .

Finished cattle are getting scarse it will depend on what way farmers react in August when the processors start trying to pull as a few fellas get worried about cattle going over 30 months. However if finishers hold tough prices wil hold/strenghten but history tells us lads panick. August could be tricky.By end og August they should be 30-35kgs heavier. On ten of them it is 700 if they hold at 2/kg

milkprofit wrote: »

Fr bull 1000 kg live 3 half years bsc 3 what's he worth
Bb HF 450 kg
2 fr HF twins 360 kg what would they make

If he has good flesh about 1500 euro