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mahoney_j

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Finished cattle are getting scarse it will depend on what way farmers react in August when the processors start trying to pull as a few fellas get worried about cattle going over 30 months. However if finishers hold tough prices wil hold/strenghten but history tells us lads panick. August could be tricky.By end og August they should be 30-35kgs heavier. On ten of them it is 700 if they hold at 2/kg



If he has good flesh about 1500 euro

So you'd hold them so??,worth putting 2 kg rolled barley into them??.theyll have nice aftergrass for guts of a month

Farmer Pudsey

mahoney_j wrote: »

So you'd hold them so??,worth putting 2 kg rolled barley into them??.theyll have nice aftergrass for guts of a month

If I was giving them anything it would be soya hulls or hulls and barley 50/50. The barley would go through them too fast, would it convert at 10/1???. at 20-22c/kg it would be costing 2-2.2 to put on an extra kg. I be inclined to let the pudseys of this word feed them ration next year at finishing stage. However some lads like to buy fleshy bullocks.

CloughCasey1

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

If I was giving them anything it would be soya hulls or hulls and barley 50/50. The barley would go through them too fast, would it convert at 10/1???. at 20-22c/kg it would be costing 2-2.2 to put on an extra kg. I be inclined to let the pudseys of this word feed them ration next year at finishing stage. However some lads like to buy fleshy bullocks.

Would ya also give them soya bean meal? Does grass not drop in protien and increase in sugar from now on. Soya meal, barley, and soya hulls mix with the grass. The soya meal for protien and hulls and barley for fiber to make the protien stick. They are still growing at that age would it not be more important to put more frame on them than flesh?

blue5000

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Would ya also give them soya bean meal? Does grass not drop in protien and increase in sugar from now on. Soya meal, barley, and soya hulls mix with the grass. The soya meal for protien and hulls and barley for fiber to make the protien stick. They are still growing at that age would it not be more important to put more frame on them than flesh?

I reckon soya is too expensive. If grass is managed right it should be around 20% CP.

orm0nd

mahoney_j wrote: »

So you'd hold them so??,worth putting 2 kg rolled barley into them??.theyll have nice aftergrass for guts of a month

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

If I was giving them anything it would be soya hulls or hulls and barley 50/50. The barley would go through them too fast, would it convert at 10/1???. at 20-22c/kg it would be costing 2-2.2 to put on an extra kg. I be inclined to let the pudseys of this word feed them ration next year at finishing stage. However some lads like to buy fleshy bullocks.

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I don't think you may much gain by feeding meal other than saving grass

As FP mentioned in a previous thread August can often be iffy selling , but no 2 years are the same & it could be flier this year.

either way with any good weight gain you won't lose out , prospects are looking good for cattle

White Clover

FarmeridPudsey wrote: »

Finished cattle are getting scarse it will depend on what way farmers react in August when the processors start trying to pull as a few fellas get worried about cattle going over 30 months. However if finishers hold tough prices wil hold/strenghten but history tells us lads panick. August could be tricky.By end og August they should be 30-35kgs heavier. On ten of them it is 700 if they hold at 2/kg




If he has good flesh about 1500 euro

On good grass I'd be expecting a gain of 1kg/day for them friesians

mf240

mahoney_j wrote: »

So you'd hold them so??,worth putting 2 kg rolled barley into them??.theyll have nice aftergrass for guts of a month

Id hold them while there putting on cheap weight.

2kgs a day for a month is 60kg or around 12 euros.

So theyed only have to gain 6 kgs to break even at 2 euros per kg live.

The nearer to 500 kgs you can get them the more customers youll have.

mf240

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Would ya also give them soya bean meal? Does grass not drop in protien and increase in sugar from now on. Soya meal, barley, and soya hulls mix with the grass. The soya meal for protien and hulls and barley for fiber to make the protien stick. They are still growing at that age would it not be more important to put more frame on them than flesh?

No need for the soya they will be geting more than enough protien from grass.

If getting a mix made up id go 50 barley 25 maize and 25 hulls.

Farmer Pudsey

CloughCasey1 wrote: »

Would ya also give them soya bean meal? Does grass not drop in protien and increase in sugar from now on. Soya meal, barley, and soya hulls mix with the grass. The soya meal for protien and hulls and barley for fiber to make the protien stick. They are still growing at that age would it not be more important to put more frame on them than flesh?

I never feed yearlings stores ration. Even if selling returns are marginal on Friesian's. If I had better quality cattle I feed a barley/hull mixture for 4-6 weeks pre sale.. It will sow down the gut and add flesh to cattle for the lads that like fleshy cattle. Cost would be 22c/kg. Adding soya beans meal will bring it to 26c/kg. Weanlings are different but stores are stores.

Willfarman

Ah there's more than one way to skin an armadillo. Barley soya hulls and maize meal are excellent value. 3 kg a day Only cost 25 euro a month which is only a wag of an ear in the mart.

Depends on your grass supply and qaulity really. If grass is v good leafy and plentiful there be no return but if tis shot out or scarce you'd get a good bang for your buck.

blue5000

Willfarman wrote: »

Ah there's more than one way to skin an armadillo. Barley soya hulls and maize meal are excellent value. 3 kg a day Only cost 25 euro a month which is only a wag of an ear in the mart.

Depends on your grass supply and qaulity really. If grass is v good leafy and plentiful there be no return but if tis shot out or scarce you'd get a good bang for your buck.

There's labour in feeding meal too. Maybe if it was bulls still at grass and weather a bit rough I'd feed meal to have them started on it before bringing them in to finish, but store cattle no.

darragh_haven

A double of bullocks going to the factory on monday. Getting €4.30/kg plus bonus. 4 animals are over 30 months but will be treated as under age. Free haulage too.

Willfarman

darragh_haven wrote: »

A double of bullocks going to the factory on monday. Getting €4.30/kg plus bonus. 4 animals are over 30 months but will be treated as under age. Free haulage too.

WHere you headed

darragh_haven

Willfarman wrote: »

WHere you headed

Mitchlestown

Farmer Pudsey

darragh_haven wrote: »

A double of bullocks going to the factory on monday. Getting €4.30/kg plus bonus. 4 animals are over 30 months but will be treated as under age. Free haulage too.

They will be treated as underage are you getting the QA bonus on the of 12c/kg

darragh_haven

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

They will be treated as underage are you getting the QA bonus on the of 12c/kg

Getting the QA bonus. In reality they are looking for numbers but the factoty don't want to say the Base price is €4.45 as when price drops it would be dropping from too much of a height.
First time in a few years the agent landed out on the farm with the factory rep. Those fecker don't travel to west cork if they don't have to.

smokey-fitz

Lads not used to looking at finished continentals, especially well muscled ones. 26 month old heifer is she fat enough or not? Personally I dont think so but any comments appreciated

Farmer Pudsey

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Lads not used to looking at finished continentals, especially well muscled ones. 26 month old heifer is she fat enough or not? Personally I dont think so but any comments appreciated

She will carry more weight. Her dug will start to fill with fat like she is starting to spring. I say she is 3-/= at present. I not used to looking at Cont's either so i might br wrong.

Farmer Pudsey

darragh_haven wrote: »

Getting the QA bonus. In reality they are looking for numbers but the factoty don't want to say the Base price is €4.45 as when price drops it would be dropping from too much of a height.
First time in a few years the agent landed out on the farm with the factory rep. Those fecker don't travel to west cork if they don't have to.

12c/head on the overage is equivlent to 1.5-2c/kg across a double of cattle. haulage is about 5c/kg off a base of 4.3 it brings you to 437/kg of a base still a flaking base. Will we get to 4.5/kg of a base

tatoo

Is there much €4.30 about ?

CloughCasey1

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Lads not used to looking at finished continentals, especially well muscled ones. 26 month old heifer is she fat enough or not? Personally I dont think so but any comments appreciated

This should help ya

Robson99

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Lads not used to looking at finished continentals, especially well muscled ones. 26 month old heifer is she fat enough or not? Personally I dont think so but any comments appreciated

Would on for another 3 weeks or 4. I'd be giving her some rolled barley to if possible to harden her up.

Farmer Pudsey

tatoo wrote: »

Is there much €4.30 about ?

I expect there is. Local factory was looking for cattle Friday was paying 4.25 during the week. When selling during the week, one agent I contacted was supposed to come back on Tuesday but did not ring until Friday sounded hungry for cattle.

smokey-fitz

Thanks for the opinions lads, not in a rush anyway. Have plenty of time still and grass. Was going to go with some rolled barley and see how they do, be no harm anyway.

Farmer Pudsey

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Thanks for the opinions lads, not in a rush anyway. Have plenty of time still and grass. Was going to go with some rolled barley and see how they do, be no harm anyway.

Rolled barley is value at present can be got in small bags at 220/ton it also very good quality.Lots of flour in any barley I have seen this year. 2-3 kgs/ day to her would really harden her up in 4-6 weeks.

As a matter of interest what the price of straight maize in bulk/bags

Base price

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I expect there is. Local factory was looking for cattle Friday was paying 4.25 during the week. When selling during the week, one agent I contacted was supposed to come back on Tuesday but did not ring until Friday sounded hungry for cattle.

OH got €4.25 plus QA and AA/HE bonus. Although I think there is a 5c difference between the AA and HE bonus.

Base price

smokey-fitz wrote: »

Lads not used to looking at finished continentals, especially well muscled ones. 26 month old heifer is she fat enough or not? Personally I dont think so but any comments appreciated

Lovely heifer - BAx?

Someyolk

Base price wrote: »

OH got €4.25 plus QA and AA/HE bonus. Although I think there is a 5c difference between the AA and HE bonus.

Do the AA and HE ever make the base price Base price? (Do they ever grade r)

Base price

Someyolk wrote: »

Do the AA and HE ever make the base price Base price? (Do they ever grade r)

No problem with them grading R, problem is with fat scores +/- and that is where you get hammered by the factories.

smokey-fitz

Base price wrote: »

Lovely heifer - BAx?

Down as lmx on the card, bought her as a weanling last year. Think her mother was a bax. Best looking heifer in the place.

Edit: weanling/yearling