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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    I wouldn't be worried about a good heifer like that going over fat as much as those Herefords behind them. Always judge heifers fat score between front legs. Ignore tail head. If brisket is full move em on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭smokey-fitz


    Willfarman wrote: »
    I wouldn't be worried about a good heifer like that going over fat as much as those Herefords behind them. Always judge heifers fat score between front legs. Ignore tail head. If brisket is full move em on.

    Not worried about her going over fat, just dont want to let her go too early. The herefords look after themselves ;) usully get them into the 3+ 4- area and the odd 4= sometimes the odd one might look too fat but never went over the 4= I generally judge by the overall condition, tail head, back, ribs and the hind quarter, works for me anyway. Bullocks are easier to judge I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Not worried about her going over fat, just dont want to let her go too early. The herefords look after themselves ;) usully get them into the 3+ 4- area and the odd 4= sometimes the odd one might look too fat but never went over the 4= I generally judge by the overall condition, tail head, back, ribs and the hind quarter, works for me anyway. Bullocks are easier to judge I think.

    FIL had a hex last yr 28 mts and 5- on grass alone. Got heavily punished by factory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,457 ✭✭✭tanko


    I sent an Angusx cow to the factory a few years ago that graded a 5+ for fat, I didn't think it was possibe.
    On average would 3+/4- be the ideal fat score for killing cattle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭smokey-fitz


    FIL had a hex last yr 28 mts and 5- on grass alone. Got heavily punished by factory.

    Yea that is the problem with them, I havent had a 5 yet with heifers or bullocks, I try keep a close eye on them nearing the time, had one back in feb and she looked mud fat, her arse was sagging she was so fat, held on to her because I had a batch almost fit. Was really supprised when she graded 4-

    I do try get the culls to 5 if I can, really adds weight to their small enough carcass and you dont get docked for fat cows either.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Yea that is the problem with them, I havent had a 5 yet with heifers or bullocks, I try keep a close eye on them nearing the time, had one back in feb and she looked mud fat, her arse was sagging she was so fat, held on to her because I had a batch almost fit. Was really supprised when she graded 4-

    I do try get the culls to 5 if I can, really adds weight to their small enough carcass and you dont get docked for fat cows either.

    If factory's are short it amazing what way cattle grade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭smokey-fitz


    If factory's are short it amazing what way cattle grade.

    True. But I wasnt complaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,456 ✭✭✭larrymiller


    Sold a wh heifer in the mart. She was 660 kgs and made 1500. I was quoted €4.06 kg off the factory as she's non qa. And guess who bought her but a lad who buys for the same factory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,422 ✭✭✭just do it


    Sold a wh heifer in the mart. She was 660 kgs and made 1500. I was quoted €4.06 kg off the factory as she's non qa. And guess who bought her but a lad who buys for the same factory.
    Fancy a guess at her kill out %? 55.5% would give you a €1,500 factory cheque (before deductions of course)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    No wh heifer would die 55 per cent. Take her at 53. Be same as 4.30 a kg.
    What's initials of the buyer?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Got rid of a few finished bullocks there yesterday. 27-28 months old. Best killed out at 466kg for 4.37. Happy days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Got rid of a few finished bullocks there yesterday. 27-28 months old. Best killed out at 466kg for 4.37. Happy days.

    He made his 1kg a day for his life at 28mts assuming he killed out at 56%. What breed and what he cost ya? Now how much did the worst lad make ane what he cost ya? A gambler only ever tells ya bout the big winner!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    He made his 1kg a day for his life at 28mts assuming he killed out at 56%. What breed and what he cost ya? Now how much did the worst lad make ane what he cost ya? A gambler only ever tells ya bout the big winner!!

    All my own. No nuts since first winter when they get 1kg a day. Nice low cost system, finished on grass only. Average for the 7 was around 1850

    Black lad 70% limo R+4= 466kg
    Red lad Limo R+4= 441kgs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    All my own. No nuts since first winter when they get 1kg a day. Nice low cost system, finished on grass only. Average for the 7 was around 1850

    Black lad 70% limo R+4= 466kg
    Red lad Limo R+4= 441kgs

    There a theory that you should have poured nuts into them last winter and killed them out of the shed in at maybe 20-30 kgs lighter after a ton of nuts. Oops and at 20c/kg less


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    There a theory that you should have poured nuts into them last winter and killed them out of the shed in at maybe 20-30 kgs lighter after a ton of nuts. Oops and at 20c/kg less

    Big win for count. When everyone else is running in the same direction turn the other way and walk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Big win for count. When everyone else is running in the same direction turn the other way and walk

    And they catch up to you as you get to where you are going;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭Robson99


    There a theory that you should have poured nuts into them last winter and killed them out of the shed in at maybe 20-30 kgs lighter after a ton of nuts. Oops and at 20c/kg less

    Replacements have got dearer since the spring also and if he had killed out of shed and replaced at same time the replacements would be leaving him a good profit since. Swings and roundabouts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    All my own. No nuts since first winter when they get 1kg a day. Nice low cost system, finished on grass only. Average for the 7 was around 1850

    Black lad 70% limo R+4= 466kg
    Red lad Limo R+4= 441kgs
    Robson99 wrote: »
    Replacements have got dearer since the spring also and if he had killed out of shed and replaced at same time the replacements would be leaving him a good profit since. Swings and roundabouts

    I higlighted the important bit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭Robson99


    I higlighted the important bit.

    Fair enough hadn't seen that bit in the post. It can be luck too. Cattle could be back 20 cent in the factory just as easy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Fair enough hadn't seen that bit in the post. It can be luck too. Cattle could be back 20 cent in the factory just as easy

    It was never going to happen this year for the last 18 months lads cannot kill cattle fast enough. A lot of lads have got 30 months and QA in the brain. Any lad with cattle now should be trying to maximise weight gain before selling. Too many lads in the habbit of turning over cattle for smallish margins. Other issue is lads are afraid of not using there sheds. For last two years late April-early June was little better in price than March


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Count Mondego


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Swings and roundabouts

    This is the truth about beef farming. Last year I was getting 3.50 a kilo. I'm not doing anything special, but try to keep the same system and make it as efficient as possible. I'll have the same type of cattle in two years and I'll be back to last year's price. Some lads are too quick to change system to follow the short term gain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Fair enough hadn't seen that bit in the post. It can be luck too. Cattle could be back 20 cent in the factory just as easy

    And he'd still have done well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,239 ✭✭✭Willfarman


    Killing cattle younger allows a far better turnover of stock and a higher stocking rate. It's a margin per hectare you are supposed to look at not per head. Each to their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Willfarman wrote: »
    Killing cattle younger allows a far better turnover of stock and a higher stocking rate. It's a margin per hectare you are supposed to look at not per head. Each to their own.

    Exactly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    Any value in these lads? Bit hungry looking.

    http://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/freisin-bullocks/9859882


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 970 ✭✭✭Count Mondego



    They could do with a mineral dose......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,742 ✭✭✭CloughCasey1


    They could do with a mineral dose......

    They wouldn't have been priority stock I think. Only bit of value ive seen on DD in a long time. Some lads looking for that for 4mt old runners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭dryan


    4:32 base for bullocks today. Midlands. Sending in a few.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 mossiemag


    Rolled barley is value at present can be got in small bags at 220/ton it also very good quality.Lots of flour in any barley I have seen this year. 2-3 kgs/ day to her would really harden her up in 4-6 weeks.

    As a matter of interest what the price of straight maize in bulk/bags

    Just wondering lads, I will be finishing a few aa heifers for the butcher toward the end of the year. Would rolled barley be good for them or should i go for a finishing beef mix?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    mossiemag wrote: »
    Just wondering lads, I will be finishing a few aa heifers for the butcher toward the end of the year. Would rolled barley be good for them or should i go for a finishing beef mix?


    Yes barley will be good enough. Late in the year if grass is very wet a bit of soya hulls through it will slow the rumen. However you may not be able to access them . However a bit of hay or straw ideally will slow the rumen as well.


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