Boundary Extension for City?

It's only just getting better over here as long as you don't mention water.
Having the kk office over the library helps.

Not sure it will happen even if recommended however you never know Paudie Coffey may actually do his first useful thing since been elected!!

Out interest can the Government over rule objections from Kilkekny Co Co, now that Big Phil is gone and FG lost the seat to FF they probably have low chances of regaining it so it may secure Waterford if they get it past....

Irishlad2014 wrote: »

Considering one of the reasons for amalgamation of the councils was to increase Waterford Citys "critical mass"...

Yes that was the reason for the amalgamation!

its a sensible thing to do in fairness, just like Tipperary might be better off taking over Carrick-begs admininstration, but people will pull out the relevant GAA jersey and bite of their nose to spite their face

GAA would proceed as normal. Ferrybank play in Waterford, and players from that club can be selected for Waterford. Similarly Slieverue play their games in Kilkenny, and the same applies to them. Neither club has too much influence on county teams anyway, so it's a bit of a storm in a teacup.

It's not the only county which has boundary issues, but it's the only city which has this issue in relation to the far side of it's river.

Jesus, I hope this doesnt happen.... like if it does, who will waterford city have to blame for all their problems....

robtri wrote: »

Jesus, I hope this doesnt happen.... like if it does, who will waterford city have to blame for all their problems....

There will be no problems. It will be a perfect utopia.

We'll get compared to the Nazi's in 3..2...

Buck Melanoma wrote: »

Genuine question... You think it is ok to take land belonging to a different county ??

When the other county is blatantly making a pigs ear of it and it directly effects Waterford City the answer is yes, yes and yes again.

BBM77 wrote: »

What are you on about? Nobody will be taking land. The people who own the land will still own it. All that will change is medieval boundaries that have no practical relevance to local government administration today. Quite frankly Kilkenny County Council have brought this on themselves as much as anything else. As far as I am concerned the granting of planning permission for the Ferrybank Shopping Centre shows they are not fit to administer the area. So yes I think it is ok for Waterford city to administer the area.

The county based local administration we have in this country is way pasted it use be date. It’s a joke. Waterford city with a population of 46,732 has no local authority of any kind of its own anymore but County Leitrim with a population 31,798 has a full county council. For example west county Waterford should be merged with Tipperary county council and the Metropolitan district should be a full local authority. The Metropolitan district and west county Waterford have little in common in local administration terms.

I agree with most of that. I'm in that zone which is currently KCC but will almost certainly be switched to WCCC if there is a boundary extension. I'm completely against the extension if it's simply a matter of shifting the border a few hundred yards up the road. That won't solve anything and it's simply perpetuating what's wrong with the current system. I really don't see that WCCC will do any better than KCC at running my neck of the woods. It's tweedledum versus tweedledee as far as I can see.

However, I accept that the current division is outdated. Far better to radically reorganise the county system. The old counties can still exist, if that's what you're into. However, new administrative divisions are needed to reflect the modern world. 100 years ago, most of us travelled little so it made sense to have us divided into small counties for local government purposes. The country is much smaller today. Now we often live miles from where we work, shop etc. Why not have one "county" for all of the South-East? Alternatively, copy the Northern system where each "county" is based around the nearest main town(though the problem there is that there are far too many "counties").

The Adversary wrote: »

Ferrybank is Waterford... and that's coming from someone from the area.

I'm from the area too, I know many(also from the area) who would disagree strongly. That includes me. Though, as I've said above, that doesn't mean I'm against a sensible reorganisation.

The Adversary wrote: »

Push the border up as far as the golf course and include Newrath.
All though I'd be firmly Waterford I can never see it happening to be honest because any debates always end in GAA style mudslinging which both sides are guilty of. I think it should be put to a vote to the people of Ferrybank, I think too often the debate is muddied from people from Waterford City and other parts of South Kilkenny. Obviously places like Slieverue and Mooncoin are Kilkenny, but Ferrybank is a special case and I don't think anyone would deny that.

Very true!

wellboy76 wrote: »

Thats how the Guards do it.

Id imagine the fire service as well. Is the any rational reason against that doesn't involve GAA?

jayboi wrote: »

Id imagine the fire service as well. Is the any rational reason against that doesn't involve GAA?

Fire service go a good bit up the M9 ... first exit I believe.... if Heathen is around he can answer that better than me