What Scams have you only just Realised?

jimmii · 15-06-2015 04:53PM

Taxes go towards paying your electric bills?

donegal. · 15-06-2015 04:53PM

lizzyman wrote: »

Old appliances are indeed less efficient than new. But to say they get less efficient as they get older? Source or GTFO.

im not going to go searching for a source but it came from Electrolux.

part of a campaign a couple of years ago that said if europe replaced all appliances that were more than 10 years old we'd meet Kyoto targets.

Fridges being the worst offender

now how do i get some of this hooker money. Need to be long term unemployed?

OneOfThem · 15-06-2015 04:55PM

jimmii wrote: »

Taxes go towards paying your electric bills?

It's a metaphor sweetheart.

jimmii · 15-06-2015 04:56PM

donegal. wrote: »

im not going to go searching for a source but it came from Electrolux.

part of a campaign a couple of years ago that said if europe replaced all appliances that were more than 10 years old we'd meet Kyoto targets.

Fridges being the worst offender

That was presumably only because new appliances are naturally more efficient than old ones not due to the fact that appliances become less efficient over time. I guess maybe there could be issues to do with wiring dating etc but I doubt how efficient a kettle is changes much over time just how efficient it is relative to products being produced in the future.

jimmii · 15-06-2015 04:57PM

OneOfThem wrote: »

It's a metaphor sweetheart.

I was wondering why you were posting about your sister in AH. Glad to hear she hasn't been paying Billy all that money phew!

HandsomeDan · 15-06-2015 05:00PM

donegal. wrote: »

im not going to go searching for a source but it came from Electrolux.

part of a campaign a couple of years ago that said if europe replaced all appliances that were more than 10 years old we'd meet Kyoto targets.

Fridges being the worst offender

Old appliences are less efficient due to technology not age.

looksee · 15-06-2015 05:01PM

Don't know about energy saving, but they certainly last longer - i took to writing the date on bulbs and the last one I changed had been on all night, every night for over 8 years.

donegal. · 15-06-2015 05:03PM

jimmii wrote: »

That was presumably only because new appliances are naturally more efficient than old ones not due to the fact that appliances become less efficient over time. I guess maybe there could be issues to do with wiring dating etc but I doubt how efficient a kettle is changes much over time just how efficient it is relative to products being produced in the future.

no , thats not it. A kettle nots going to change but other larger appliances use a lot more electricity when there clapped out

lizzyman · 15-06-2015 05:03PM

donegal. wrote: »

im not going to go searching for a source but it came from Electrolux.

part of a campaign a couple of years ago that said if europe replaced all appliances that were more than 10 years old we'd meet Kyoto targets.

Fridges being the worst offender

now how do i get some of this hooker money. Need to be long term unemployed?

Right. A manufacturer of household appliances recommends buying new appliances to save you money. Sounds legit eh?

Your claim was that appliances somehow become less efficient as they get older. Which is patently false.

15-06-2015 05:03PM

OneOfThem wrote: »

Income tax.

Imagine you meet up with your younger sister. First time you've seen her in a few years as you've been out of the country for a while. Chatting away, she tells you of the new job she's started. Pays well. You're delighted for her obviously, she's worked hard to get where she is. Tells you she's been seeing a guy, Billy. That kind of thing, just catching up. You ask her if she'd like to come out for a nice meal the next night, maybe go for a few drinks after?

"I'd love to, but I just don't have the money".

"Huh? How's that, considering what you get paid? "

"Oh, lol, well I get paid that. But then I have to give Billy a big chunk."

"You... you what? What do you mean "have to" ?"

"Oh no don't get the wrong idea, I give it to him, and then he pays my electricity and water bills and stuff like that for me... and well uses some for his bills... and he keeps some for spending money for himself... for pints with the lads... his car insurance... hookers... things like that..."

"Fvcking hell Mary. Why on earth are you going along with that? You could just pay your own bills! Let him pay for his own fvcking car insurance! And hookers!? You can't honestly be trying to tell me you're OK with him using your money to pay for hookers?"

"Well, I don't agree with everything he does with it... but I mean he does make sure the electricity is paid... So... "

" But it's your fvcking money. Tell him to fvck off! "

" Oh... Billy wouldn't like that. I said that once and he chained me to a radiator for a week and took all of my wages off me instead of just some. "

"Jesus Christ! What? I'm going to kick his fvcking teeth out!"

"No you can't! He... he has lots of friends... and they have guns... "

"Well why don't you just leave the prick for crying out loud?"

"Oh, I couldn't do that... He does make sure the electricity bill is always paid. And one week when my wages didn't come through on time he still paid the electricity bill. "

"Out of the money you'd given him previously...?"

"I guess... "

Fvck off out of it.

Mary is a bint. She should be a bit more grateful.

She avails of far more than an energy supply.

She avails of multi-billion euro infrastructure, which costs far more per year than she will ever pay in all taxes and charges all her long, miserable, selfish, libertarian life.

Tell Mary to fvck off to the dirt roads of some wartorn libertarian paradise, where she might learn to be more of a team player. The thick.

The Diabolical Monocle · 15-06-2015 05:13PM

did billy send mary to school and hang around 24/7 as a body guard and medic.

is billy the reason mary can work in a job in the first place.

is there anything stopping mary moving out of billys house to somewhere billy doesn't frequent .... say Somalia or such.

jimmii · 15-06-2015 05:26PM

The Diabolical Monocle wrote: »

did billy send mary to school and hang around 24/7 as a body guard and medic.

is billy the reason mary can work in a job in the first place.

is there anything stopping mary moving out of billys house to somewhere billy doesn't frequent .... say Somalia or such.

If she moved she'd have to pay her own electricity bills though.

OneOfThem · 15-06-2015 05:27PM

jimmii wrote: »

If she moved she'd have to pay her own electricity bills though.

Plus she's absolutely terrified of black people, so Somalia's not really an option.

donegal. · 15-06-2015 05:27PM

http://cleantechnica.com/2012/12/22/is-your-fridge-eating-your-savings/

Another important consideration is that fridges become increasingly less efficient as they age and the cooling system degrades. 5-year-old fridges consume 10% more energy, 10-year-old fridges consume 20% more energy, and fridges 15 years old or more consume at least 30% more energy. Imagine if you have not replaced your kitchen fridge in over a decade and you also have a spare fridge in the basement. You may be spending an additional $1000 in unnecessary electricity costs over the lifetime of each fridge.

donegal. · 15-06-2015 05:31PM

ok i have to go home now and i haven't read this link , it should show if i'm right or completly wrong.

http://www.electroluxgroup.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2010/07/Incentive-for-Change-Electrolux-Dec-2007.pdf

jimmii · 15-06-2015 05:43PM

OneOfThem wrote: »

Plus she's absolutely terrified of black people, so Somalia's not really an option.

She'd be a lot better off in Kenya English is spoken everywhere there so less likely to run into language issues. Also a cracking place to live.

jimmii · 15-06-2015 05:45PM

donegal. wrote: »

http://cleantechnica.com/2012/12/22/is-your-fridge-eating-your-savings/

Another important consideration is that fridges become increasingly less efficient as they age and the cooling system degrades. 5-year-old fridges consume 10% more energy, 10-year-old fridges consume 20% more energy, and fridges 15 years old or more consume at least 30% more energy. Imagine if you have not replaced your kitchen fridge in over a decade and you also have a spare fridge in the basement. You may be spending an additional $1000 in unnecessary electricity costs over the lifetime of each fridge.

Amazing the direction threads take on here. Thread was started about scams and its got to the decreasing efficiency of fridges. Bet they don't get that on the first page of reddit.

ComfortKid · 15-06-2015 05:50PM

jimmii wrote:

That was presumably only because new appliances are naturally more efficient than old ones not due to the fact that appliances become less efficient over time. I guess maybe there could be issues to do with wiring dating etc but I doubt how efficient a kettle is changes much over time just how efficient it is relative to products being produced in the future.

donegal. wrote:

no , thats not it. A kettle nots going to change but other larger appliances use a lot more electricity when there clapped out

lizzyman wrote:

Your claim was that appliances somehow become less efficient as they get older. Which is patently false.

A kettle is actually the one appliance that does get less efficient with age due to limescale. My kettle takes at least 2 minutes longer to boil than it did when I bought it

CINCLANTFLT · 15-06-2015 05:52PM

jimmii wrote: »

Amazing the direction threads take on here. Thread was started about scams and its got to the decreasing efficiency of fridges. Bet they don't get that on the first page of reddit.

I like when we discuss which way to wipe your arse...I use toilet paper and wipe front to back... Others swear by back towards front... When I meet those people I kill them and their filth ridden bodies!!!

jimmii · 15-06-2015 05:54PM

CINCLANTFLT wrote: »

I like when we discuss which way to wipe your arse...I use toilet paper and wipe front to back... Others swear by back towards front... When I meet those people I kill them and their filth ridden bodies!!!

Well thats just clearly wrong. Make sure you don't touch Mary as Billy will come and get you.

PS. I prefer no one one to assist in that not sure why you guys are even discussing which way you would do it. I do appreciate that it is something you have thought about it but at the moment I am not looking for anyone for that role currently.

emeldc · 15-06-2015 06:00PM

donegal. wrote: »

ok i have to go home now and i haven't read this link , it should show if i'm right or completly wrong.

http://www.electroluxgroup.com/en/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2010/07/Incentive-for-Change-Electrolux-Dec-2007.pdf

You on flexi time? Another scam :rolleyes:

emeldc · 15-06-2015 06:02PM

ComfortKid wrote: »

A kettle is actually the one appliance that does get less efficient with age due to limescale. My kettle takes at least 2 minutes longer to boil than it did when I bought it

Ehh, descale the fuggin' thing.

bladespin · 15-06-2015 07:39PM

NapoleonInRags wrote: »

Yawn...

Yes, that's pretty much what a lot of them do (all day), that said sit in a mind numbing job day after day and the mind goes, well, numb :rolleyes:

harry Bailey esq · 15-06-2015 08:34PM

Wallet inspector

Nib · 15-06-2015 10:02PM

NCT.

Capt'n Midnight · 15-06-2015 10:12PM

lizzyman wrote: »

So everything is the same besides the higher cost of the new bulbs. €10 today for two LED bulbs in my local hardware store whereas before I could have bought two bulbs for a few euro.

All in all, it's a scam.

Shop around most are still overpriced.

3W bulbs for €1.49 in dealz takes a while to find the normal ones.

Aldi had a pair of 8W's for €5.99 recently , normal bayonet fitting too if you were early.

keithclancy · 15-06-2015 10:53PM

donegal. wrote: »

http://cleantechnica.com/2012/12/22/is-your-fridge-eating-your-savings/

Another important consideration is that fridges become increasingly less efficient as they age and the cooling system degrades. 5-year-old fridges consume 10% more energy, 10-year-old fridges consume 20% more energy, and fridges 15 years old or more consume at least 30% more energy. Imagine if you have not replaced your kitchen fridge in over a decade and you also have a spare fridge in the basement. You may be spending an additional $1000 in unnecessary electricity costs over the lifetime of each fridge.

Just keep it full to offset it.

http://lifehacker.com/5260853/make-your-refrigerator-far-more-efficient

But this theory of throwing shít away because its more energy efficient is the reason the world uses so much energy in the first place.

The amount of cars we scrapped to build more cars is ridiculous and only serves companies that want to make money building you more shít that you dont need in the first place

Nucular Arms · 15-06-2015 11:22PM

KomradeBishop wrote: »

The banking/monetary system:
Banks literally create money from nothing and get to charge interest on it, and can use this power to cause massive inflation in parts of the economy (e.g. construction/housing), and then when such a bubble bursts, can force governments to bail them out by threatening economic doom.

It's actually sad how uninformed most people are about the operation of the financial system.

When the government needs more money in the supply, let's say, 2 billion euro, they approach the central bank and trade government bonds as a form of security to the central bank on a loan of the 2billion.

As you know, loans are susceptible to interest. And yet, if the central bank is the only entity that can affect the money supply, and seeing as this latest loan is for money not already existing in the money supply, the key thing to consider is.. how is the government supposed to pay off the interest of the loan? As, by definition, there is no more money in the supply in order to do so.

So where does it come from? Tax. That's where from.

You can see the effects of this fractional reserve banking even in the creation of irish water. The IMF and the eu, acting as the central bank of the nation, basically agreed to loan money to the irish government on condition that it would be paid back with interest.

Where does the interest come from? USC, Irish water etc, etc, etc

ComfortKid · 15-06-2015 11:28PM

Dont be talking the truth lads or this will be moved to Conspiracy theory forum

Nucular Arms · 15-06-2015 11:41PM

ComfortKid wrote: »

Dont be talking the truth lads or this will be moved to Conspiracy theory forum

The crazy thing is that it isn't even a conspiracy! This is just a statement of the acknowledged policies and practices of the world's banking system. Apparently everyone just thinks this is all ok?

I mean komrade Bishop above linked to a document published by the bank of england ffs! There doesn't need to be a conspiracy precisely because nobody really gets finance / economics spiel bar trained financial / economic personnel.

You know, the ones making obscene profits from the system they have created that no one understands bar them and which no one has a choice but to fall in line with?

And the even more amusing thing is that, as you say, if you were to actually point out the glaring nuttiness of the whole system that you would be the the one to get the funny looks!

What Scams have you only just Realised?

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