Piece on Cyclists on Prime Time RTE 1 9.35PM - Mod warning see OP/post 102

LpPepper · 26-05-2015 08:41PM #1

Hi all, there's a special on cyclists tonight on Prime Time RTE 1 at 9.35pm - think a special on Aer Lingus is on first though....for anyone interested!

Mod warning (quoted from post 102):

Beasty wrote: »

Final warning - no more helmet discussion in this thread. Use the helmet megathread (which is linked from the Charter/FAQ sticky)

Any questions, PM me - do not respond in thread

UDP · 26-05-2015 08:43PM

They will be discussing the plight of cyclists (whatever that means) on Prime Time on RTE One starting in a few minutes.

monument · 26-05-2015 08:44PM

Teaser intro says it is covering “growing war between cyclists and motorists”

Beasty · 26-05-2015 08:47PM

Threads merged

Diarmuid · 26-05-2015 08:48PM

IF you value your sanity, don't watch this

Beasty · 26-05-2015 08:58PM

Diarmuid wrote: »

IF you value your sanity

Gave up on that when I started track racing .....:P

LuckyLloyd · 26-05-2015 09:08PM

Pretty damning so far.

Beasty · 26-05-2015 09:09PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Pretty damning so far.

Pretty damning on who

Oryx · 26-05-2015 09:09PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Pretty damning so far.

Not watching. Damning who?

Banjoxed · 26-05-2015 09:10PM

That Guard was sound. More like that please.

LuckyLloyd · 26-05-2015 09:12PM

Beasty wrote: »

Pretty damning on who

Oryx wrote: »

Not watching. Damning who?

Pretty damning against the concept of cycling in Dublin in the current context of the city. And pretty damning on the behaviour of a minority of cyclists.

Larbre34 · 26-05-2015 09:13PM

Oryx wrote: »

Not watching. Damning who?

Cyclists on footpaths / breaking red lights / wrong way up one-way streets

Usual stuff they deny they do but do all the time

26-05-2015 09:14PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

Cyclists on footpaths / breaking red lights / wrong way up one-way streets

Usual stuff they deny they do but do all the time

Who is they?

tampopo · 26-05-2015 09:15PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Pretty damning against the concept of cycling in Dublin in the current context of the city. And pretty damning on the behaviour of a minority of cyclists people in cars, trucks and buses.

Fixed your post for you!

So, in conclusion, Hi viz jackets are no protection. Someone tell the RSA and the Gardai

Beasty · 26-05-2015 09:17PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

And pretty damning on the behaviour of a minority of cyclists.

No-one (on here anyway) denies there are a significant minority of cyclists who don't seem to give a damn about the safety of themselves or others. On the issue of safety in Dublin - they keep harping back to the 12 deaths (across the country) last year , compared to 5 the year before, conveniently overlooking that the figure for this year to date is 2. I certainly don't want to downplay the dangers of getting in the blind spots of drivers, but generally cycling is a lot safer than a lot of people seem to think

ted1 · 26-05-2015 09:17PM

I thought the lack of infrastructure was well presented, they should have mentioned that a lot if the times the cycle path is the foot path and that needs to change

07Lapierre · 26-05-2015 09:20PM

Now watching mean streets.. Good man Rocko! (Bicycle courier)

LuckyLloyd · 26-05-2015 09:23PM

tampopo wrote: »

Fixed your post for you!

So, in conclusion, Hi viz jackets are no protection. Someone tell the RSA and the Gardai

Cars / trucks / buses

So there was no commentary on cyclist behaviour in the program?

tampopo · 26-05-2015 09:29PM

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Cars / trucks / buses

So there was no commentary on cyclist behaviour in the program?

Oh there was, there was. Including the piece on a "very careful, hi viz jacket wearing, rules of the road obeying" cyclist.

They interviewed his wife, as he was killed by a truck going over him, poor lad.

tomasrojo · 26-05-2015 09:30PM

Prime Time did a special like this a few years ago, very heavy on the helmet cam footage. That pretty much said Dublin is too dangerous for cycling. Not big on stats, just footage. I couldn't be bothered watching this one.

I did see monument's tweet about their claim that Dublin City Centre is the most dangerous place to cycle, which, as he points out, it definitely isn't. In terms of fatalities per journey or per km travelled, it's pretty much the safest. But, as I said, stats not their long suit.

funnights74 · 26-05-2015 09:30PM

I thought it was fair enough, obviously the camera doesn't lie and there was wrong on both sides in the clips they featured. What was shown will come as no surprise to regular commuters, I'm quite used to being "cut up" on my trip to work.
I must agree with what the guard said awareness of your surroundings and anticipation can go a long way to saving injuries and lives. Part of the problem was the influx of cyclists, partly due to the ctw scheme and the infrastructure simply wasn't in place. So no quick fix in place.

Larbre34 · 26-05-2015 09:32PM

ronoc wrote: »

Who is they?

They, is many cyclists.

tomasrojo · 26-05-2015 09:34PM

funnights74 wrote: »

obviously the camera doesn't lie

chicorytip · 26-05-2015 09:35PM

It's astonishing to see the numbers of cyclists - the majority of those shown on the Prime Time report, for example - who still refuse to wear helmets. It ought to be made compulsory to do so, as it is for motorists to wear seat belts.

omicron · 26-05-2015 09:39PM

chicorytip wrote: »

It's astonishing to see the numbers of cyclists - the majority of those shown on the Prime Time report, for example - who still refuse to wear helmets. It ought to be made compulsory to do so, as it is for motorists to wear seat belts.

Yeah it should be compulsory for cyclists to wear helmets like it is for motorists and pedestrians to wear helmets. :rolleyes:

Jawgap · 26-05-2015 09:40PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

They, is many cyclists.

How many?

Watching The Departed.

tomasrojo · 26-05-2015 09:40PM

Beasty wrote: »

On the issue of safety in Dublin - they keep harping back to the 12 deaths (across the country) last year , compared to 5 the year before, conveniently overlooking that the figure for this year to date is 2.

Bit like that horrific spate of deaths in London in the not so decent past. I remember Andrew Gilligan being slated for predicting that there would be regression to the mean (probably not the best time to bring it up, during the spate), but he was right. That high number last year does seem to be an anomaly among a run of otherwise good years.

UDP · 26-05-2015 09:40PM

It was a strange report without any discussion. If I didn't already commute by bike it would have frightened me into not starting. I suppose it was good that it highlighted the crazy setup with regards bike lanes.

Beasty · 26-05-2015 09:41PM

chicorytip wrote: »

It's astonishing to see the numbers of cyclists - the majority of those shown on the Prime Time report, for example - who still refuse to wear helmets. It ought to be made compulsory to do so, as it is for motorists to wear seat belts.

Please see the Charter/FAQs for a link to the forum megathread on helmets. Please read that thread and contribute there if you wish to discuss helmet use

Any questions, PM me - do not respond in-thread

Thanks

Jawgap · 26-05-2015 09:42PM

Difficult not to believe their timing has nothing to do with Bike Week next month?

Larbre34 · 26-05-2015 09:43PM

Jawgap wrote: »

How many?

Watching The Departed.

They must have shown 20 examples, usual stuff you would see each day in Dublin town.

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