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Allergic to Work

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  • #182
    222233
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭222233


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    Well if the government legalised and taxed cannabis then it will go towards this countrys piggy-bank and will help us along some bit.

    People wouldn't do it then though don't you know the minute it helps society people wouldn't be arsed

    Would also save silly resources put into trying to curtail cannabis in this country, could be used for more serious drug crime


  • #183
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    What, with the quantitative easing implemented recently on the Euro. No point in purchasing over-seas now with the euro devalued.

    Pretty much anything manufactured is imported, and a good share of foods.


  • #184
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Name one country that has 100% employment ?

    All Soviet countries that ever existed. Full employment as part of being part of the party.


  • #185
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    mhge wrote: »
    Pretty much anything manufactured is imported, and a good share of foods.

    Yup loads of food imported, Did you know Irish potatoes are imported back into Ireland as frozen chips as no one makes them here. Loads of stuff like that.


  • #186
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    All Soviet countries that ever existed. Full employment as part of being part of the party.

    Name one you would go live in ?


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  • #187
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    I pay 52 percent tax on a huge percentage of what I earn

    Why should that go to someone who chooses not too work?

    A few years ago my ex husband justified his being unemployed to his mother as I earned enough for it not to matter
    he literally was allergic to work


  • #188
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Name one you would go live in ?

    Maybe the Kaliningrad portion of Russia.


  • #189
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Stheno wrote: »
    I pay 52 percent tax on a huge percentage of what I earn

    Why should that go to someone who chooses not too work?

    A few years ago my ex husband justified his being unemployed to his mother as I earned enough for it not to matter
    he literally was allergic to work

    No you don't it's on a small percentage. Get's me everyone banging on about I pay 52% tax nonsense. The effective rate is nothing near that.


  • #190
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Stheno wrote: »
    I pay 52 percent tax on a huge percentage of what I earn

    Why should that go to someone who chooses not too work?

    A few years ago my ex husband justified his being unemployed to his mother as I earned enough for it not to matter
    he literally was allergic to work

    In all fairness Stheno the 52% of your taxes don't just go to the dole. Only a tiny bit of your taxes goes to welfare payments.

    Most of your taxes go to the bank bailouts and un-guaranteed bondholers and corrupt politicians.


  • #191
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    In all fairness Stheno the 52% of your taxes don't just go to the dole. Only a tiny bit of your taxes goes to welfare payments.

    I would like to see the breakdown of the tax payments... I would wager the overall effective rate is probably 32%. Can you imagine the uproar if people were paying 52% on most of the wage..


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  • #192
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    No you don't it's on a small percentage. Get's me everyone banging on about I pay 52% tax nonsense. The effective rate is nothing near that.

    I pay it on more than half what I earn
    my effective rate year to date is 32 per cent


  • #193
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    http://lh3.ggpht.com/-gLMa0Mxlcik/VDUC8pjXApI/AAAAAAAASOU/s_Gr9sfiMdI/s1600-h/VLWI%252520Eurostat%25255B3%25255D.jpg


  • #194
    ZeroThreat
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    .


  • #195
    ZeroThreat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭ZeroThreat


    Stheno wrote: »
    I pay it on more than half what I earn
    my effective rate year to date is 32 per cent

    you must be earning at least €70k then, you have little to complain about.:rolleyes:


  • #196
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Bongalongherb wrote: »
    In all fairness Stheno the 52% of your taxes don't just go to the dole. Only a tiny bit of your taxes goes to welfare payments.

    Most of your taxes go to the bank bailouts and un-guaranteed bondholers and corrupt politicians.
    Have you seen the welfate budget?

    And what do I get forbprsi


  • #197
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    ZeroThreat wrote: »
    you must be earning at least €70k then, you have little to complain about.:rolleyes:

    And not paying more than half the wage out in tax..


  • #198
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Stheno wrote: »
    Have you seen the welfate budget?

    Most of it's nothing to do with JSA. Pensions is the largest part.


  • #199
    Bongalongherb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,766 ✭✭✭Bongalongherb


    Geuze wrote: »
    http://lh3.ggpht.com/-gLMa0Mxlcik/VDUC8pjXApI/AAAAAAAASOU/s_Gr9sfiMdI/s1600-h/VLWI%252520Eurostat%25255B3%25255D.jpg

    On that chart, why is Ireland not accounted for in statistics of 2012 blue


  • #200
    Stheno
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    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Most of it's nothing to do with JSA. Pensions is the largest part.

    And funded by the very small percentage of our population paying the most taxes


  • #201
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Most of it's nothing to do with JSA.

    I think that the point of this is that there are many ways to be allergic to work, beyond JSA.

    How would you explain Ireland's jobless households rate, two or three times higher than that of other EU countries, some also deeply affected by the recession?


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  • #202
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    mhge wrote: »
    I think that the point of this is that there are many ways to be allergic to work, beyond JSA.

    How would you explain Ireland's jobless households rate, two or three times higher than that of other EU countries, some also deeply affected by the recession?

    I'm not sure that's correct have you a link to back that up?


  • #203
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    Stheno wrote: »
    And funded by the very small percentage of our population paying the most taxes

    That's a pointless statement, so is the health service it's part of living in a society. What would you do with your money if the tax was not taken ? Hope it would be enough to buy an armored car home body guards if you want a very small tax system. You would probably be worse off paying for protection from the people who have no income.


  • #204
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    mhge wrote: »
    I think that the point of this is that there are many ways to be allergic to work, beyond JSA.

    How would you explain Ireland's jobless households rate, two or three times higher than that of other EU countries, some also deeply affected by the recession?

    I know one section has an unemployment rate of 80% odd.


  • #205
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Stheno wrote: »
    I'm not sure that's correct have you a link to back that up?

    I posted the link to the report up thread...

    "In 2010, 23 per cent of households in Ireland had a very low work intensity, compared to the next-highest countries, UK and Belgium, at 13 per cent and an EU-15 average of 11 per cent. Most countries had rates of household joblessness between 6 and 11 per cent, so Ireland is clearly exceptional".


  • #206
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I know one section has an unemployment rate of 80% odd.

    Section?


  • #207
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Section?

    I'm not going to derail the thread...


  • #208
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    I'm not going to derail the thread...
    Ok....I honestly have no idea what "section" you're referring to...not trying to derail anything!


  • #209
    darkpagandeath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,461 ✭✭✭✭darkpagandeath


    mhge wrote: »
    I posted the link to the report up thread...

    "In 2010, 23 per cent of households in Ireland had a very low work intensity, compared to the next-highest countries, UK and Belgium, at 13 per cent and an EU-15 average of 11 per cent. Most countries had rates of household joblessness between 6 and 11 per cent, so Ireland is clearly exceptional".

    People are moaning about Tax now. Any idea for example how much it would cost to fund a decent child care system to get people back to work and self sufficient ? Or trained or even a realistic job opportunity ?


  • #210
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Ok....I honestly have no idea what "section" you're referring to...not trying to derail anything!

    They mean Travellers. It's a small (20k or so) section though and can not explain the overall rate.


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  • #211
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Ah ok gotcha


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