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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Pawwed Rig wrote: »

    Yeah, it was something similar with less detail.
    Glad to see she was supported by only a handful of idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,251 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Some good lines in here, bet the woman she terrorized had a good laugh reading it:

    121.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Every gift of £500 will fund my legal team for another hour. As they read out loud the terms of my restraining order to me. Yet again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭obplayer


    Thargor wrote: »
    Some good lines in here, bet the woman she terrorized had a good laugh reading it:

    121.jpg

    They're persecuting me! And all I want is the right to abuse and threaten people like other religions do!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    A post I saw on another site
    I never got to make a first Confession - well, not to finish it in anyway. During the practice for our first holy communion we had to learn about Confession and do loads and loads of practice supervised by a nun. Twenty boys split into 4 groups all practicing their first confession. And we had it rhymed off to a tee:

    Bless me Father for I have sinned. This is my first confession:
    I told lies
    I was disobedient.
    I was whispering in Church .....

    SO the big day came but I (aged only 6 years & 9 months) wanted NOT to be rhyming off the same as the others. So a young Dublin lad whispered a great sin to me. "The priest'll love this sin, go on, tell it to him" he said to me.

    So I went in to make my first confession:
    Bless me Father for I have sinned. This is my first confession:
    I told lies
    I was disobedient.
    I was whispering in Church
    I committed adultery

    The priest was as quick as lightning and dragged me out of the confessional box and got laid into me with his fists and boots. Halfway down the aisle the nun was able to put her small body between me and the mad-as-hell priest. She was actually pushing him out of the chapel. And because I wouldn't tell who told me to say that sin, myself and the other 4 boys were stopped from making our first communion.

    I did meet up with that nun many decades later (and she WAS a tiny woman) and she remembered the incident clearly and the priest.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,500 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's like a flashback to one of the rants we had to endure in school in the 80s, "the profits of the condom purveyors"

    Well the obvious answer (which I had enough sense to keep to myself) is either form a nationalised industry Coiscíni Éireann Teo. and make Guaranteed Irish rubbers, or just have the Dept. of Health buy them in in their millions at discount rates and sell them at cost. "Profits of condom purveyors" problem solved


    "the millions of pounds of profits from kiling poor innocent baybeees"

    Same thing. Do it on the NHS for free, nobody makes millions, we can all be happy right? That is, unless the money angle is a complete bloody strawman??

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    recedite wrote: »
    Every gift of £500 will fund my legal team for another hour. As they read out loud the terms of my restraining order to me. Yet again.

    'Also note that cat faeces has no commercial value, and though I do appreciate the generous amounts some of you have sent, I'd request that no more be donated at this time'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    A genuine election manifesto from a candidate in the UK General Election. Thankfully, they'll probably get about 5 votes. But still, just shows how nutcases still try to push their sickening agenda on the public.

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    As mentioned in another thread, she appears to be confusing the powers of an MP with those of a dictator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    She must be kicking herself that she's not Russian Orthodox. :pac:


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,858 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    P.S. Please include my appeal on 11th May in your daily prayers.

    "...but, since you and I both know that that won't accomplish a goddamn thing, send money as well."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    A child in Oklahoma has been forced out of his school because his mother objected to bibles being handed out by the child's schoolteacher (a breach of the separation of church and state) and now the family will probably be forced to move after threats from christians. So much for forgiveness and turn the other cheek eh?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/04/30/after-stopping-bible-giveaway-atheist-mom-says-threats-have-forced-her-to-pull-son-out-of-school/


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Prayer Not Quite Bringing Peace to Northern Ireland

    http://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2015/04/prayers-cause-conflict-in-northern-ireland-council
    Secularism wrote:
    Councillors in Northern Ireland have been left bitterly split after an hour long row over whether to begin council meetings with prayers. The Causeway Coast and Glens Borough Council was left deadlocked for over an hour, before finally voting to say prayers at the start of official meetings – leading one councillor to warn that a "huge case" could be made to the Northern Ireland Equality Commission by staff required to attend meetings and thus forced to sit through the religious observances.

    UUP councillor William McCandless said: "I am annoyed that we are sitting here in a Christian country being asked to vote with or against the Lord's Prayer." He added, "Christians are being beheaded in Islamic countries, I think we need time to reflect for a moment." Sinn Fein councillor Cara McShane said that religion and politics should be separate, and according to the Coleraine Times, suggested that legal advice was needed. She also warned that "staff are compelled to be at these meeting, there is a huge case waiting to happen either with the Equality Commission or a Tribunal" if the meetings opened with prayers. McShane told her fellow councillors, "we shouldn't be shoving beliefs down people's throats." DUP councillor George Duddy said he was "disgusted" that "a prayer that we should all say every day has become a debate."

    NSS campaigns manager Stephen Evans commented, "This should serve as another example to those who think local authorities in other parts of the UK should open their meetings with prayers. They are inappropriate, divisive and unnecessary." A range of proposals were considered before the vote finally passed. A twenty minute recess was needed as arguments became heated and intractable.

    One SDLP councillor said that it is "not very inclusive to expect members to stand outside" while prayers are being held. She added, "I don't come here to pray." An amendment was tabled suggesting that prayers be held before meetings begin – something which the National Secular Society has suggested for councillors in the rest of the UK, rather than expecting all councillors and staff to sit through prayers during official meeting time – however the suggested amendment was defeated. A full meeting of the council is needed to ratify the business of the meeting.

    The 1998 Northern Ireland Act states that a public authority shall "have due regard to the need to promote equality of opportunity" between "persons of different religious belief, political opinion, racial group, age, marital status or sexual orientation." It also requires a public authority to have "regard" for the "desirability of promoting good relations between persons of different religious belief, political opinion or racial group." Mr Evans added, "The imposition of religious observances during official meetings does nothing to promote good relations between people of different religious and non-religious views."

    Earlier this year the UK Government passed legislation giving English local authorities an explicit power to include prayers "or other religious observance" in their official meetings. The Local Government (Religious etc. Observances) Act was opposed by the National Secular Society, which had previously won a High Court ruling that the inclusion of prayers in meetings to which councillors were summoned to attend was not lawful under the Local Government Act 1972.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Vivisectus


    Hmmm - if the UK wants to not be a theocratic society, and still include prayers in local government meetings, then every one in the meeting should be able to include their own particular prayer: that is only fair. It is hard to figure out what an atheist prayer would be like, but at least Mr Zelsany furnished us with the agnostic version. We should see if there are any agnostics on that board and tell them to demand the following prayer be said before each meeting from now on:
    Insofar as I may be heard by anything, which may or may not care what I say, I ask, if it matters, that you be forgiven for anything you may have done or failed to do which requires forgiveness. Conversely, if not forgiveness but something else may be required to insure any possible benefit for which you may be eligible, I ask that this, whatever it may be, be granted or withheld, as the case may be, in such a manner as to insure your receiving said benefit. I ask this in my capacity as your elected intermediary between yourself and that which may not be yourself, but which may have an interest in the matter of your receiving as much as it is possible for you to receive of this thing, and which may in some way be influenced by this ceremony. Amen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,989 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Good quote, I hadn't heard of that book before. Although there seems to be some confusion between "insure" and "ensure" in various texts; my vote goes with the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Vivisectus


    recedite wrote: »
    Good quote, I hadn't heard of that book before. Although there seems to be some confusion between "insure" and "ensure" in various texts; my vote goes with the latter.

    Schismatic!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    God teaches a school in Texas a lesson:

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/1-in-15-high-school-students-have-Chlamydia-at-6240944.php
    KOSA-TV reported the Crane Independent School District sent a letter to parents last week regarding 20 cases of chlamydia among the Crane High School student population, which totals about 300 students. Those letters were sent to the parents of both senior and junior students as a precaution. The Texas Department of State Health Services notified both Crane and Upton County officials after a significant numbers of cases were identified.

    The high school has three days of sex education in the fall semester for students, with the curriculum including abstinence. Crane ISD Superintendent Jim T. Rumage cited abstinence as a useful methodology for keeping kids away from sexual activity in a phone interview Monday.

    “If kids are not having any sexual activity, they can’t get this disease … That’s not a bad program,” Rumage said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    robindch wrote: »

    Ha, "Teenagers not listening to a thing adults advise" shocker! Cos that never usually happens.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,207 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Whenever the abstinence thing comes up, all I can think about is the riddle where the farmer needs to cross the river with a fox, a chicken and a bag of grain.

    Teaching only abstinence to teenagers is the equivalent of throwing the bag of grain into the boat and telling the fox not to eat the chicken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Vivisectus


    Maybe they can all spit in a glass as a way of demonstrating how having sex devalues you as a person somehow.

    Though if a teacher proposed that, I would get another glass, spit in it 25 times, and then tell the teacher to drink it: after all, if the other represents a sex life with many partners, this represents only having a single sexual partner, which is perfectly ok.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Nebraska woman files suit in federal court against all homosexuals

    http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska/nebraska-woman-files-suit-in-federal-court-against-all-homosexuals/article_91c7526c-f33b-11e4-964f-97697770307b.html
    Omaha wrote:
    An Auburn woman claiming to be an ambassador for God and his son, Jesus Christ, is suing all homosexuals. Sylvia Driskell, 66, asked an Omaha federal judge to decide whether homosexuality is a sin.

    Citing Bible verses, Driskell contends “that homosexuality is a sin and that they the homosexuals know it is a sin to live a life of homosexuality. Why else would they have been hiding in the closet(?)” Driskell wrote in a seven-page petition to the court that God has said homosexuality is an abomination. She challenged the court to not call God a liar.

    “I never thought that I would see a day in which our great nation or our own great state of Nebraska would become so compliant to the complicity of some people(’s) lewd behavior.”

    Driskell could not be reached by phone. She is representing herself in the lawsuit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    She is representing herself in the lawsuit.

    Never has the phrase 'a person who represents themselves in court has a fool for a client' seemed more appropriate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Never has the phrase 'a person who represents themselves in court has a fool for a client' seemed more appropriate.

    She's representing herself, as an ambassador for God and Jesus Christ.

    I'm going to have to spend a few minutes thinking about that one....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,744 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    That'd be a good one; setting precedent that sinning is illegal. The jails would soon be full of adulterers and kids who wouldn't take the bins out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,500 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's perfectly possible to make sin illegal.

    First we all have to agree on which religion is obviously the correct one.
    Then we have to agree on which parts of the sacred text should be left in or out.
    Then we have to agree on which translation (or translation of a translation, via a language no-one speaks any more) is the correct one.
    Then we have to agree on what interpretation of the translated text is correct.
    Then we have to agree on what is capable of being implemented in a practical, enforceable law.

    With her deep knowledge of what god wants and her legal experience I suggest she gets to work on this straight away.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Vivisectus


    If only it was that easy, Hotblack! We also have to decide which tradition that uses a particular holy writing is correct. Religious beliefs tend to claim they are based on holy texts, but a whole lot of the beliefs they espouse as part of their religion are either based on extremely little actual text, or on none at all. Just look at the number of mentions of "Pope", "Hell", "Limbo", "Purgatory", "Mass", and "Saint" that you can find in the Bible, for example.

    But once we have taken that hurdle things will get progressively more simple, though, since for most religions not being part of it is itself a sin. Unless we put the death penalty on it we will need every single believer working flat out to keep everyone else in jail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 27,954 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    At the risk of spoiling everybody's fun, I have to point out that nowhere in the report that robin links to does it say that this woman wants the courts to rule that homosexuality, or homosexual acts, are illegal or criminal. The report is not a model of clarity, and I suspect the legal proceedings it refers to are even less so, but it looks to me as if these are declaratory proceedings, and all that the plaintiff is looking for is a declaration that homosexuality is sinful. Not having a pope to appeal to for a determination of this question, she's appealing to the Federal courts instead.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    At the risk of spoiling everybody's fun, I have to point out that nowhere in the report that robin links to does it say that this woman wants the courts to rule that homosexuality, or homosexual acts, are illegal or criminal. The report is not a model of clarity, and I suspect the legal proceedings it refers to are even less so, but it looks to me as if these are declaratory proceedings, and all that the plaintiff is looking for is a declaration that homosexuality is sinful. Not having a pope to appeal to for a determination of this question, she's appealing to the Federal courts instead.

    Well isn't that her own fault for going with the wrong religion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,779 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Never has the phrase 'a person who represents themselves in court has a fool for a client' seemed more appropriate.
    Unfortunately it is becoming a bit of a necessity in the UK.
    MrP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Unfortunately it is becoming a bit of a necessity in the UK.
    MrP

    Why so? Cost?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,500 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Vivisectus wrote: »
    If only it was that easy, Hotblack! We also have to decide which tradition that uses a particular holy writing is correct. Religious beliefs tend to claim they are based on holy texts, but a whole lot of the beliefs they espouse as part of their religion are either based on extremely little actual text, or on none at all. Just look at the number of mentions of "Pope", "Hell", "Limbo", "Purgatory", "Mass", and "Saint" that you can find in the Bible, for example.

    Hmmm, clearly a protestant atheist :pac:

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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