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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    robindch wrote: »
    Because people reserve the right to get angry when something is perceived to be a matter of religion, especially when the religion asserts identity. So, it's just easier to allow them to do what they want, when they claim it's for "religious reasons".

    BTW, law-makers in North Carolina want hospitals to be able to turn away gay patients, but the bill's sponsor - a Republican, you'll all be amazed to hear - has said that the bill won't be so wide as to allow people to carry out "child sacrifice".

    Representative Paul Stam, take it away:

    http://www.newnownext.com/north-carolina-lawmakers-want-hospitals-to-be-able-to-turn-away-gay-patients/03/2015/?utm=share_twitter


    Yeah, the right to refuse to supply gay cakes (how is a cake gay?) wedding invites? Maybe. But you cannot sacrifice kids? That is not true religious freedom.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Christian right leader advocates religious liberty, simultaneously denounces religious liberty.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/04/14/christian-right-leader-argues-for-religious-liberty-while-denouncing-wiccan-invocation-since-that-mocks-god/

    A proper case of 'worship any god you like, as long as it's my one'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    The power of religious brainwashing


    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/04/texas-church-members-accused-of-starving-demon-possessed-toddler-and-then-trying-resurrect-him/

    A Texas couple fled to Mexico after a failed attempt to raise a starved toddler from the dead, police said.

    Officers received an anonymous tip March 26 that the 2-year-old boy had died nearly a week earlier but was not reported, according to NBC News.

    Police went to a Balch Springs home, which also operated as a church, where they were told a “rising ceremony” had been performed four days earlier in an attempt to resurrect him, the network reported.

    The child’s body was taken to Mexico the next day by his parents and other members of the Congregacional Pueblo De Dios, police said.

    Investigators have not yet located the parents or church congregants.

    Video of the ceremony appears to show Aracely Meza, the church’s secretary, praying and speaking in tongues over the toddler’s body, which she anoints with oils, as other congregants gather around.

    Meza, who is not the child’s mother, was charged with injury to a child by omission.

    A woman who knew the boy’s mother said pastors believed the child was possessed by demons, and she said the boy went 25 days without food before he died.

    The video shows Meza asking Jesus to give breath to the boy, identified as Benjamin, during the hours-long ceremony.

    After the ceremony fails to bring the boy back to life, Meza breaks down crying.

    Congregacional Pueblo De Dios, which was formed in 2007, is affiliated with the Hispanic Conference of the Congregational Holiness Church, a Georgia-based Pentecostal denomination, reported NBC News.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Seems a bishop doesn't stop working just because he retires. And he may not even have to leave his palace either.

    Nice work if you can get it!

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/little-chance-of-former-archbishop-moving-out-of-spotlight-1.2175765


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    robindch wrote: »
    Seems a bishop doesn't stop working just because he retires. And he may not even have to leave his palace either.

    What, they don't all get sent off to St Clabberts?


    Oh and looks like the LGBT friendly pope isn't too happy about a gay ambassador being assigned to the Vatican http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/231993291


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭CptMackey


    What, they don't all get sent off to St Clabberts?


    Oh and looks like the LGBT friendly pope isn't too happy about a gay ambassador being assigned to the Vatican http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/231993291

    The veil always slips in the end.
    He is just the pr guy that was trotted out after the last fella screwed up. Similarly to a large oil company that leaks oil into the gulf brings out a new man after the last fella forgot to turn off the tap


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,349 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Nun stabs schoolboy to teach him about the suffering of Jesus


    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/nun-stabs-schoolboy-teach-him-5462581

    An over-zealous nun stabbed a schoolboy in the hand with a needle to show him how Jesus suffered.

    Sister Ludovita, 30, had been giving RE classes at a school in the town of Kysucke Nove Mesto in northern Slovakia when she told unsuspecting pupil Adam Celko, 7, to come to the front of the class.

    She then took a needle out of her handbag and rammed it into the boy’s hand in front of the horrified class, telling him that this was how Jesus suffered - and he would too if he behaved badly.

    The boy’s outraged mum Helena, 30, said: "When Adam got home he had a wound on the back of his hand and when I asked him what had happened he told me the nun had done it.

    "I was completely shocked. I mean, what on earth was she thinking?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,349 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That kid is lucky it wasn't woodwork class.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    At the back of your consciousness I'm betting that you have an emptiness, a gap of knowledge that needs to be filled with the words of someone extremely wise.

    Well now you have the man who can fill this need, Iranian cleric Ayatollah Hossein Dehnavi.
    Women incorrectly wearing the hijab leads to homosexuality among men.

    (Perhaps he's been listening to Breda O'Brien)
    Dehnavi also warns women about having too much sex, advising sexual activity be limited to a maximum of “only twice a week, not every day” because “otherwise the man will become saturated.”

    ....what are these horny Iranian women saturating?

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2015/04/iranian-cleric-fathers-fantasies-during-intercourse-causes-homosexuality/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Is he advocating sexier hijabs? Showing a flash of ankle, perhaps? Madness, it'll end in tears.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    pauldla wrote: »
    Is he advocating sexier hijabs?

    I'll tell you what: there are some women in Dubai who can rock an abaya. I ain't playin.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    A pot-luck dinner at a church in Ohio leaves 27 in hospital and one dead:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/botulism-outbreak-in-ohio-kills-one-2067758-Apr2015


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,852 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    robindch wrote: »
    A pot-luck dinner at a church in Ohio leaves 27 in hospital and one dead:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/botulism-outbreak-in-ohio-kills-one-2067758-Apr2015

    How is this a hazard ? 27 saved by a miracle from God...PTL!

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 936 ✭✭✭JaseBelleVie


    A genuine election manifesto from a candidate in the UK General Election. Thankfully, they'll probably get about 5 votes. But still, just shows how nutcases still try to push their sickening agenda on the public.

    CDh8lW6W0AEkwFO.jpg


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,403 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ Yon lady's certainly against many things.

    Is she in favour of anything though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    robindch wrote: »
    ^^^ Yon lady's certainly against many things.

    Is she in favour of anything though?

    Misery, by the looks of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    The Right To Smack. Presumably she means the freedom to assault, and not free heroin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Heroin? You better believe that's a paddlin'...or an execution broadcast on Liveleak played to whatever is the fundie Christian equivalent of a jihadist "nasheed".


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭BlaasForRafa


    A genuine election manifesto from a candidate in the UK General Election. Thankfully, they'll probably get about 5 votes. But still, just shows how nutcases still try to push their sickening agenda on the public.

    What's she doing out canvassing, she should f**k off back to the kitchen and make the dinner!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,382 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    robindch wrote: »
    ^^^ Yon lady's certainly against many things.

    Is she in favour of anything though?

    Wants to make it okay to smack children
    Opposes animal cruelty

    That woman's more backwards than Neirb O'Aderb


  • Moderators Posts: 51,738 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    wasn't sure where to post this...

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    SW wrote: »
    wasn't sure where to post this...


    Probably in the bin.

    He has great hair, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    A genuine election manifesto from a candidate in the UK General Election. Thankfully, they'll probably get about 5 votes. But still, just shows how nutcases still try to push their sickening agenda on the public.

    CDh8lW6W0AEkwFO.jpg
    Don't be too sure. This nutbag is a sitting councillor, and we are talking Northern Ireland.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,334 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    She is not a million miles away from the general DUP train of thought either


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,243 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    galljga1 wrote: »
    Don't be too sure. This nutbag is a sitting councillor, and we are talking Northern Ireland.
    I think you malign our northern brothers and sisters unfairly. She was a candidate in the last local council elections. She got 67 votes in her district - the quota was 1,066 - and was eliminated on the first count.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,938 ✭✭✭galljga1


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I think you malign our northern brothers and sisters unfairly. She was a candidate in the last local council elections. She got 67 votes in her district - the quota was 1,066 - and was eliminated on the first count.

    A little googling might have helped.
    I read an article that described her as a councillor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,349 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/asia-pacific/executed-brazilian-unaware-what-was-happening-until-end-1.2195050
    Fr Burrows, who witnessed the execution of another Brazilian prisoner in January, said Gularte continued to hear voices in his final days telling him everything would be fine.

    "He believes the voices more than he does anybody else," he said.

    Voices in your head = Bad! Crazy!

    Voice of god in your head = Virtuous! Enlightened!

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 22,334 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    galljga1 wrote: »
    A little googling might have helped.
    I read an article that described her as a councillor.

    This article http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/u/hardline-christian-councillor-vows-to-jail-gay-people-love-cheats-and-ban-rock-music-in-elect.1430139120
    describes her as a councillor. I think it is an error though


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