[Superthread] Mayweather vs Pacman NO STREAMING REQUESTS

the whole year inn · 26-04-2015 10:36AM

Kirby wrote: »

It's easy to be gracious after the fight, when you have won. And Floyd always wins. But have a look at this post fight. Merchant calls him out on the sucker punch and Floyd loses his rag completely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjuaeKMeRf8

Terrible interview!

Yep your right he calls him out on it and the first time he answered it Mayweather explained what happened and then they show the video and he explains. Merchant goes in again, what response was he expecting to get from him,it was terrible interview!
Fairplay to Mayweather, Merchant had a vendetta against him and he shouldn't have to stand there and take it!

walshb · 26-04-2015 11:06AM

FTA69 wrote: »

Jump into a ring sometime and give that a bash. Let us know how you get on.

I happen to think that Floyd's range and use of it will be a key factor in this fight. Manny won't be able to impose his combination punching because of it.

The poster isn't saying that HE can do it, he is saying that one of the greatest all around ring generals can.

Kirby · 26-04-2015 11:17AM

the whole year inn wrote: »

Terrible interview!

Yep your right he calls him out on it and the first time he answered it Mayweather explained what happened and then they show the video and he explains. Merchant goes in again, what response was he expecting to get from him,it was terrible interview!
Fairplay to Mayweather, Merchant had a vendetta against him and he shouldn't have to stand there and take it!

The replay speaks for itself. And Floyd didn't "explain what happened" as you put it. He tried to play it off by saying "right hand and thats all she wrote" and avoid the question completely. Merchant had no "vendetta" and such talk is juvenile.

It wouldn't have mattered who was interviewing him. It's up to Floyd to either remain professional or to throw a temper tantrum. The bottom line is, Floyd got upset that the clip showed him in a bad light. Which goes to the original point about him being gracious when it suits him. A more genuine person would have watched the clip back, and admitted to the booing crowd that perhaps it wasn't a clean win. But he didn't do that....he had a strop instead.

walshb · 26-04-2015 11:45AM

Defending Floyd for the Merchant clip is obscene, but doesn't surprise me.

FTA69 · 26-04-2015 05:48PM

walshb wrote: »

I happen to think that Floyd's range and use of it will be a key factor in this fight. Manny won't be able to impose his combination punching because of it.

The poster isn't saying that HE can do it, he is saying that one of the greatest all around ring generals can.

Range imposition is vastly different from attempting to shoulder roll a straight left in the middle of of a combination. The punch would barrel straight into your face and if you did manage to deflect it you'd be totally out of position to counter. It can be used to deflect the right hook etc but it isn't the go to defence for a straight left.

cowzerp · 26-04-2015 06:08PM

walshb wrote: »

Defending Floyd for the Merchant clip is obscene, but doesn't surprise me.

Merchant was way out of line in that interview, Floyd was after been head butt in the face and reacted perfectly and within the laws of Boxing

qwabercd · 26-04-2015 06:24PM

cowzerp wrote: »

Merchant was way out of line in that interview, Floyd was after been head butt in the face and reacted perfectly and within the laws of Boxing

Within the laws yes, but that doesn't make it right. I'd liken it to a football player putting the ball out of play when an opponent is down. It's not within the laws for the opposition to give the ball back, but it's an unwritten code of conduct.

cowzerp · 26-04-2015 06:27PM

qwabercd wrote: »

Within the laws yes, but that doesn't make it right. I'd liken it to a football player putting the ball out of play when an opponent is down. It's not within the laws for the opposition to give the ball back, but it's an unwritten code of conduct.

a better football analogy would be a playewr butchering you in a foul tackle, then you get up and tackle him in a legal 50/50 tackle but go in hard and come out on top, as happened in the fight i'd applaud it, Ortiz was the 1 in the wrong, the 1 who broke the laws of the sport

qwabercd · 26-04-2015 06:38PM

cowzerp wrote: »

a better football analogy would be a playewr butchering you in a foul tackle, then you get up and tackle him in a legal 50/50 tackle but go in hard and come out on top, as happened in the fight i'd applaud it, Ortiz was the 1 in the wrong, the 1 who broke the laws of the sport

He broke the laws yes, but generally fighters touch gloves after that happens, not fake to do it and land punches.

Henno30 · 26-04-2015 06:46PM

walshb wrote: »

Defending Floyd for the Merchant clip is obscene, but doesn't surprise me.

His fans defend his woman beating. Defending an obnoxious interview is a given.

cowzerp · 26-04-2015 06:50PM

qwabercd wrote: »

He broke the laws yes, but generally fighters touch gloves after that happens, not fake to do it and land punches.

You headbutt me and don't expect me to touch gloves, all bets were off then, That's just simple common sense

Henno30 wrote: »

His fans defend his woman beating. Defending an obnoxious interview is a given.

I and many other floyd fans don't defend any of his actions outside the ring, Ali as far as i know gave the missus a few smacks, bad form but i'm a fan of the boxers not the people.

the whole year inn · 26-04-2015 07:09PM

Kirby wrote: »

The replay speaks for itself. And Floyd didn't "explain what happened" as you put it. He tried to play it off by saying "right hand and thats all she wrote" and avoid the question completely. Merchant had no "vendetta" and such talk is juvenile.

It wouldn't have mattered who was interviewing him. It's up to Floyd to either remain professional or to throw a temper tantrum. The bottom line is, Floyd got upset that the clip showed him in a bad light. Which goes to the original point about him being gracious when it suits him. A more genuine person would have watched the clip back, and admitted to the booing crowd that perhaps it wasn't a clean win. But he didn't do that....he had a strop instead.

So I suppose merchant was 100% professional saying hes going to kick his ass if he was 50 years younger?

Mayweather got headbutted but gets blamed for fighting/winning within the rules.

megadodge · 26-04-2015 07:32PM

Despite being a 'disliker' of Mayweather, I have to side with his fans on this issue.

Ortiz very obviously attempted to headbutt him twice and then finally managed to succeed on his THIRD attempt. If I was the ref, he'd have been severely warned after the first and thrown out after the second, then we wouldn't have had the farcical Ortiz attempt to apologize THREE separate times. Why three? One for each blatant headbutt? As far as I can recall, Mayweather acknowledged the first one, so it was game on. Whatever Ortiz decided to do after that was his own stupid responsibility.

I couldn't believe the flak he received for being blatantly fouled three times by an opponent who then didn't bother 'defending himself at all times'. Mayweather did nothing wrong.

EagererBeaver · 26-04-2015 07:38PM

qwabercd wrote: »

He broke the laws yes, but generally fighters touch gloves after that happens, not fake to do it and land punches.

They did touch gloves. In fact he let Ortiz high him twice and kiss him for God's sake. I'm no fan of Floyd but trying to find something to hold against him from that fight is agenda-driven nonsense.

ebbsy · 26-04-2015 07:40PM

Anyone got any spare tickets lying around ????!!!!!!!

JustTheOne · 26-04-2015 07:42PM

So what title are they fighting for seems their both champions?

Deco99 · 26-04-2015 07:46PM

Any good fights on undercard?

qwabercd · 26-04-2015 07:47PM

ebbsy wrote: »

Anyone got any spare tickets lying around ????!!!!!!!

Yeah I've got two free tickets PM if interested.

efb · 26-04-2015 07:50PM

My sofa seats are selling fast.

I actually ordered in parents gaff. I don't have sky in mine, pay for theirs.

I don't watch enough sky to justify it

walshb · 26-04-2015 07:57PM

cowzerp wrote: »

Merchant was way out of line in that interview, Floyd was after been head butt in the face and reacted perfectly and within the laws of Boxing

I agree that Floyd did the right thing with Ortiz. Two separate issues. His behaviuor towards Merchant was trash and ghetto smack talk. He showed his true colors that night.

efb · 26-04-2015 07:58PM

walshb wrote: »

I agree that Floyd did the right thing with Ortiz. Two separate issues. His behaviuor towards Merchant was trash and ghetto smack talk. He showed his true colors that night.

He ain't a nice person whatsoever

walshb · 26-04-2015 07:59PM

cowzerp wrote: »

I and many other floyd fans don't defend any of his actions outside the ring, Ali as far as i know gave the missus a few smacks, bad form but i'm a fan of the boxers not the people.

I have yet to see that claim substantiated. Floyd's a proven woman beater and has served time for it.

efb · 26-04-2015 08:00PM

All he did was give the woman's few smacks...

He beat her up on more than one occasion- can't be defended

cowzerp · 26-04-2015 08:16PM

walshb wrote: »

I agree that Floyd did the right thing with Ortiz. Two separate issues. His behavior towards Merchant was trash and ghetto smack talk. He showed his true colors that night.

Merchant was way out of order, and he had form for giving poor interviews to Mayweather, I thought nothing of it tbh, was more pissed off Merchant wouldn't ask more pressing questions

walshb wrote: »

I have yet to see that claim substantiated. Floyd's a proven woman beater and has served time for it.

My point is that it is irrelevant, we don't know these people and i support them as fighters and don't need to like them, Mayweather is a boxing genius and i love watching him fight, will i be his best mate, No.

walshb · 26-04-2015 08:29PM

cowzerp wrote: »

My point is that it is irrelevant, we don't know these people and i support them as fighters and don't need to like them, Mayweather is a boxing genius and i love watching him fight, will i be his best mate, No.

It's relevant when discussing his actions outside the ring.

The interview with Merchant was him "outside" the ring and interacting with people. He simply showd a complete lack of character and class, and couldn't argue his case or get his point across in a civilized and authoritative fashion without resorting to smack talk and aggression. Personally I was a bit bewildered as to why he even lost the rag. His reaction was way OTT. It was standard run of the mill interview. To the best of my knowledge he has apologized for it.

xtal191 · 27-04-2015 12:32AM

Panic E · 27-04-2015 02:24AM

Sup dudes, just getting myself in the thread. 'The Legends Speak' was great!

Really good input. I'm taking it you have all seen 'At Last' by HBO recently.

It was a magnificent production. I can hardly believe the fight is nearly here.

HBO's promo's have made Showtime's equivalent look like mere propaganda.

No surprise as Mayweather is the executive producer of Showtime's efforts.

Yeah, bit of a Mayweather 'disliker' here too. A big bit, lol. Pacman Bomaye!

Talib Fiasco · 27-04-2015 02:33AM

I cannot believe the fight is only a few days away... I am so busy with college work/placement I cannot even concentrate on the fact that the fight is so near. I f only it happened 5 years ago when I was in like Transition Year :pac: I'd bunk off school for the week and just have a marathon of Manny and Floyd old fights.

Panic E · 27-04-2015 02:58AM

walshb wrote: »

Personally I was a bit bewildered as to why he even lost the rag. His reaction was way OTT

It's because he knew the question that was coming next...

Kirby · 27-04-2015 07:45AM

walshb wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge he has apologized for it.

He did apologise for it. He knew he was out of line. Interviews are part of the business and as a seasoned pro, he should know that.

Anyway, I too am delighted the fight is so close. I just hope we get a surprise and it will turn into a classic that all can enjoy. I have major doubts as to the fight as a spectacle and always have, but I'm really, really hoping it will be a belter.

[Superthread] Mayweather vs Pacman **NO STREAMING REQUESTS**

Comments

[Superthread] Mayweather vs Pacman NO STREAMING REQUESTS