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Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 3 ***Updated Mod Note Post 1***

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    #362
    thinkstoomuch1
    Registered Users Posts: 6,276 ✭✭✭thinkstoomuch1


    conditioned games wrote: »
    Length is about the same but width is significantly wider in thurles and Croke Park, hence why so many sidelines in Nolan park today.

    That's it in a nutshell


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    #363
    bruschi
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »
    That's it in a nutshell

    except it's not and it is totally wrong and your point is totally incorrect and invalid. Nowlan Park is the exact same dimensions as Croke Park.


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    #364
    Professey Chin
    Registered Users Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »
    That's it in a nutshell

    Theres been about 6 posts listing exact dimensions of the pitchs. Are you purposely ignoring them so they dont prove this "wide open spaces" theory wrong?


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    #365
    KevIRL
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    Goes without saying that it was a fantastic result today. Smashing performance too, even moreso considering the early double goal whammy. Very impressed with the workrate and fight of this team, some classy scoretaking too. All that said though, still plenty to work on, which is the best way to have it really. My MOTM was Barron, although Moran, Shanahan, Paudie, Tadgh de Burca all excellent too.

    The GAA takes a lot (often deserved) criticism over ticket prices and venue fixing for matches, but they got it spot on today. €15 for two top quality matches is excellent value for money, the venue was perfect and ensured a great atmosphere compared to say a half full Semple Stadium or a quarter full Croker. The Nowlan Park groundsmen had the pitch in fine fettle too


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    #366
    stumblingblock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 233 ✭✭stumblingblock


    The naysayers are finally starting to slacken off here.

    'Shur weve beaten no one yet. Shur tis only the league. Seamus callinan will show us how its done' whats it now? 'Shur were the only fools trying to win the league......'


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    #367
    Professey Chin
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    Will there be anywhere showing highlights? A lot of action was hard to see from down low on the 21 meter line :o


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    #368
    KevIRL
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Tipperary 2-23- Waterford 0-12

    After this latest load of tripe would you ever just go away ta fukk


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    #369
    Scaldy Ned
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    At the end of the day will the results of a game be decided by dimensions ? Personally i think it's a moot point as all counties will have to factor it in somewhere along the line. If the team is good enough it wont matter...To my eyes that Waterford team looked constrained and i think the bigger the pitch the better they will be ......I think Walsh Park is only about 140 x 80 ? so hopefully theyll enjoy having the constraints off ..... Im tryin to look on the bright side here ...help me out LOL


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    #370
    Deise_2012
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    KevIRL wrote: »
    After this latest load of tripe would you ever just go away ta fukk
    it's good in a way though because for every game, he has predicted a loss for us, but we've ended up winning. he's a gas f*cker


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    #371
    Deise_2012
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭Deise_2012


    Stop talking about pitch dimensions


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    #372
    Professey Chin
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    Deise_2012 wrote: »
    Stop talking about pitch dimensions

    Lets move onto the height of the goal posts. Its well known corks accuracy is influenced by the wind resistance caused by these above the 6 meter mark


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    #373
    Scaldy Ned
    Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭Scaldy Ned


    F**K Jeez I've just noticed that i joined in 2004 Jeez Boy i'm gettin old.......


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    #374
    Deise_2012
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    Professey Chin wrote: »
    Lets move onto the height of the goal posts. Its well known corks accuracy is influenced by the wind resistance caused by these above the 6 meter mark
    haha


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    #375
    conditioned games
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    deiseach wrote: »
    Tipperary GAA's website says that Semple Stadium's pitch is 145m x 80m. The GAA's rules say that the minimum width of the pitch is 80m. Does this mean that Nowlan Park is significantly short of those minimum dimensions?

    I don't think Derek and co will be worrying about the 'wide open spaces' of Thurles.

    Perfect example why websites can be wrong. At 80 meters in width it would make thurles the narrowst pitch in the country which is incorrect. To answer your original question the best way to get an idea is going to the grounds and viewing the pitch first hand to get the real picture.


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    #376
    skaface
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    Great win today.
    Has a venue for the League Final been decided by the Gaa yet??


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    #377
    3ships
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    The presumption is Thurles for final why not Nowlan park again


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    #378
    KevIRL
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    3ships wrote: »
    The presumption is Thurles for final why not Nowlan park again

    It'll be Thurles but I'd love Nowlan Park again.


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    #379
    TyrionPower
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    I thought Brick and Moran were just brilliant today - they worked so hard, brick chased down multiple lost causes and won frees - hero's.
    We are a bit too reliant on frees for scores - hopefully we wont come a croper over this.
    The O'Mahonys, TdeB, Barron, Dunford, Moran, Brick all excellent. And of course Maurice - great to see the man back and playing like that - leading from the front.

    One worry is Gleeson, he is very talented but seems a poor decision maker and a very lazy tackler, if a man gets a yard inside him he will foul him every time instread of trying to tackle him honestly and time after time trying for the monster point... how long have people been saying this about him now, hopefully the penny drops and soon


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    #380
    The White Feather
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    Does everyone realise that all the goals today were scored into the city end of Nowlan Park?

    Some more pitch conspiracy for you all! :pac:


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    #381
    GerB40
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    Fair play to ye lads, ye punished Tipp for every mistake they made and fúck me we made enough... And don't believe any of that "it's only the league" shyte. Ye seem to be improving with every game so the extra game could make a massive difference come championship time. Best of luck for the final..


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    #382
    willietherock
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    bruschi wrote: »
    despite Nowlan Park being the same dimensions as Croke Park? And that Thurles is only marginally (2m) wider?

    Despite what stated dimensions at Nowlan Pk are quoted, it is clearly a short pitch. Freetakers ,at their ease pointing in their own half, today. Goalies lobbing puckouts onto the opposition 21. Nash almost hitting a puckout wide. This doesn't happen in Croke Pk/Semple/PUC


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    #383
    3ships
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    KevIRL wrote: »
    It'll be Thurles but I'd love Nowlan Park again.

    Ye, not liking Thurles anymore, a good few defeats the last couple of years there after it being such a good ground for us for so long. Plus a festival weekend in Kilkenny the May weekend


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    #384
    tomwaterford
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    KevIRL wrote: »
    It'll be Thurles but I'd love Nowlan Park again.

    Let it be in thurles....but This was Waterford best result in years and every bit as good a performance as the high point of Mike Ryan's era v kk a few years ago....that's a serious marker Waterford put down today....it was no fluke result and they were full value IMO for the win


    Onwards for them :)


    Though if one slightly annoying area is the amount of tipp puck outs that were won uncontested in front of the part covered stand was terrible....I think it was 6 in a row uncontested properly at one stage.....helped give tipp a platform to build attacks??


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    #385
    hurler on de ditch
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    what a game what a result!


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    #386
    Professey Chin
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    willietherock wrote: »
    Despite what stated dimensions at Nowlan Pk are quoted, it is clearly a short pitch. Freetakers ,at their ease pointing in their own half, today. Goalies lobbing puckouts onto the opposition 21. Nash almost hitting a puckout wide. This doesn't happen in Croke Pk/Semple/PUC

    Only towards the city end with the wind. And it does happen in Semple, PUC and anywhere with an open end. Nash has regularly hit the opposite 21 and beyond.


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    #387
    PTH2009
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    Happy with the win love being wrong about results. I want to make a statement on behalf of myself

    The only reason I'm so pessimistic is because I'm afraid to be positive because I would just end up disapointed ( I suffer from personal issues ). I'm a big Waterford supporter and really hope we do well. That's the last I will discuss about that and want discussed by other users.

    It's bonus territory to be in the final and hopefully I'm able to go. I wish we were playing Dublin as it would be sometime different fan wise but it will give us an indication of were we are.

    I think it will be thurles as a double header with the camoige div 1 final


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    #388
    bruschi
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    conditioned games wrote: »
    Perfect example why websites can be wrong. At 80 meters in width it would make thurles the narrowst pitch in the country which is incorrect. To answer your original question the best way to get an idea is going to the grounds and viewing the pitch first hand to get the real picture.
    willietherock wrote: »
    Despite what stated dimensions at Nowlan Pk are quoted, it is clearly a short pitch. Freetakers ,at their ease pointing in their own half, today. Goalies lobbing puckouts onto the opposition 21. Nash almost hitting a puckout wide. This doesn't happen in Croke Pk/Semple/PUC

    so you want to ignore actual stated facts and go on assumptions? fair enough. I'd advise to ask Brian Cody why the pitch dimensions of Nowlan park are the exact same as Croke Park, and why it is that way.

    In any case, the point being that to say Waterfords tactics wont work because of pitch size has been proven to be incorrect, and is not a valid reason to dismiss their tactics. there are other reasons why I believe they wont work come championship, but its not to do with pitch dimensions.


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    #389
    archieknox
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    We're in a national final after a fantastic performance and we are on here discussing dimensions of different pitches!! What next? The prices of the apples oranges and chocolate at each ground?!! Can we get back to discussing the most important things like the team/game


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    #390
    KevIRL
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Happy with the win love being wrong about results. I want to make a statement on behalf of myself

    The only reason I'm so pessimistic is because I'm afraid to be positive because I would just end up disapointed ( I suffer from personal issues ). I'm a big Waterford supporter and really hope we do well. That's the last I will discuss about that and want discussed by other users.

    It's bonus territory to be in the final and hopefully I'm able to go. I wish we were playing Dublin as it would be sometime different fan wise but it will give us an indication of were we are.

    I think it will be thurles as a double header with the camoige div 1 final

    Fair enough. Might be worth considering how frustrating the constant negativity and pessimism is for others on here before you post though. Will leave it at that and wish you all the best with any health issues.


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    #391
    3ships
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    Don't mind Thurles of course, how wide are the corner flags there?

    On a serious note, Waterford always do well in the Championship after getting to a league final. 63 ,98,04,07 -- 2015 I expect to be similar, would any more be pushing it ....


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