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Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Sounds like the Leitrim lad is going to be OK anyway. The ambulance station isn't that far from the stadium - it sounds like it took a long time to arrive though.

    Fair to say Roscommon are the odds on favourites for Connacht based on that display?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Sounds like the Leitrim lad is going to be OK anyway. The ambulance station isn't that far from the stadium - it sounds like it took a long time to arrive though.

    Fair to say Roscommon are the odds on favourites for Connacht based on that display?

    Yes I'd imagine Roscommon would be strong favourites to retain their Connacht title,I have been led to believe they've a stronger squad than last year.

    Good news if that Leitrim lad is likely to be ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,478 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    Good news on that Leitrim lad I hope. Well done to the u 21s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭statto25


    What happened that Leitrim lad last night? Was it a head injury?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭cocoman


    statto25 wrote: »
    What happened that Leitrim lad last night? Was it a head injury?

    Neck i think. Clashed with his goalie.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    I thought we didnt have too much intelligence in our play. The one piece of intelligence (Byrne to Hall) wasnt picked up on by management. Byrne was substituted before being tried upfront. A shame given there were plenty pacey runners on the pitch who have long experience of playing off Byrnes layoffs.
    Playing those kind of tactics like we did wont do much for improving the footballing intelligence of our players in the long term. Running in crowds and shooting from distance.
    Where was the kickpassing to a target man in the forward line? Quick passes to players on the burst?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Mayo team announced
    1. Robert Hennelly
    2. Tom Cunniffe
    3. Kevin Keane
    4. Keith Higgins
    5. Lee Keegan
    6. Colm Boyle
    7. Patrick Durcan
    8. Seamus O Shea
    9. Donal Vaughan
    10. Kevin McLoughlin
    11. Aidan O Shea
    12. Diarmuid O Connor
    13. Mark Donaldson
    14. Alan Freeman
    15. Jason Doherty

    No Cillian O Connor


  • Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭glack


    seligehgit wrote: »
    No Cillian O Connor
    Better to rest him now I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    glack wrote: »
    Better to rest him now I think.

    Very strong line up nonetheless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Folks, what is the story with tickets for games at McHale Park? After you buy one, can you then go where ever you want (stand, terrace etc) or do you have to decide before hand where you want to watch the game from and, that's where you have to stay for the entire game? Or can you move about freely from the stands to the terraces? Ta. COYBIB !!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    Folks, what is the story with tickets for games at McHale Park? After you buy one, can you then go where ever you want (stand, terrace etc) or do you have to decide before hand where you want to watch the game from and, that's where you have to stay for the entire game? Or can you move about freely from the stands to the terraces? Ta. COYBIB !!!

    You can sit/stand wherever you like. Should be a good crowd in the stand tonight so get in there early to get a good seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Cheers. Leaving Dublin now. Should be a good one alright.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Unreal crowd. Let's hope another classic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭sanbrafyffe


    any one any links to watch game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    any one any links to watch game

    I wouldn't bother if I was you.

    Chasing shadows mostly...:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Defiler Of The Coffin


    Goals win games. We'll need about 5 at this stage. Badly beaten in the forwards


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 680 ✭✭✭sanbrafyffe


    do you know of a link


    d
    padd b1975 wrote: »
    I wouldn't bother if I was you.

    Chasing shadows mostly...:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    do you know of a link


    d

    No.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 umaguma


    gettin hammered at the mo!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 umaguma


    thats mayo btw, not me!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,812 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Mayo 0-6.
    Dublin 2-10. HT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Kevin Mc, Boyle, Keegan, OConnor, Durcan all taking so much out of the ball with solos n backwards passing. Clearly this team has not worked on passing in to the two target men. Individualistic make the play up as you receive it stuff. Vaughan goin in to crowds.
    Nobody has passed well into the forwards bar Ronaldson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    Dublin deeply impressive here, could be far more ahead. I wouldn't dispair if I were Mayo, Dublin have to go all out and this is close to their best side. Still though parts of Mayo are strange. Nowhere near direct enough. Still can't understand why theye playing the gimp at midfield, he's not great in the air and his distribution is terrible


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭corny


    Don't think it'll have any effect on the result but Mayo haven't got the rub of the green with the ref.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    A wake up call for the new management if there ever was one. Can't beat the Tyrone blanket or the all out attack approach from Dublin. 2015 does not look promising at this point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Ref was fine, missed Mcmanamon double bounce for the goal but that was it. The Mayo Backs are shooting too much n holding up play. The middle eight similar. The shooting percentage return from numbers 2-12 in the league must be <25%.
    The backs have something like 20 attempts in the last 4 games without a score.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    That was some footballing lesson. Some dreadful play by Mayo vs some sparkling play by Dublin. Hope the management can learn, otherwise the future look bleak enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 umaguma


    was only followin the match on twitter. any word of the attendance?


  • Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭wackokid


    umaguma wrote: »
    was only followin the match on twitter. any word of the attendance?


    15,000 according to Setanta.
    Bring back Kevin McStay rapido as those two boys in charge now haven't a clue.. Hennely's kick outs would beat any team. What was he doing coming up the field to take a short free?.............real school yard stuff there.
    Vaughan would have been my 1st choice for an early shower. He is not improving at all and it's too late now.
    I had to turn down the sound on Setanta as McHale was giving me a headache. I hope the several Mayo players he castigated don't listen to what he was saying if they have the stomach to watch a replay of this shellacking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,872 ✭✭✭statto25


    umaguma wrote: »
    was only followin the match on twitter. any word of the attendance?

    Announced as just over 13000 at the game.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    A wake up call for the new management if there ever was one. Can't beat the Tyrone blanket or the all out attack approach from Dublin. 2015 does not look promising at this point.

    Suppose it is the league but it's looking very ominous for 2015. The team have all the appearance of having been on the road 4 years. Dublin were very impressive but we certainly contributed to that impression.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,734 ✭✭✭Fowler87


    Stop hitting the weights and start focusing on the football would be a good start for the new management to rectify that ****e we witnessed tonight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    Looked very poorly coached into a gameplan. The middle eight played as individuals and were trying to setup driving runs constantly or solo forward efforts. With two target men inside. The ball to Freeman bar one ball was muck. Ronaldson n Freeman can thank the backs n middle eight for being subbed. Kevin Keane shooting from 40 yards with OShea in front of goals. Aidan OShea ended up carrying the team.
    Someone with speed n football has to partner Seamus OShea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,496 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Suppose it is the league but it's looking very ominous for 2015. The team have all the appearance of having been on the road 4 years. Dublin were very impressive but we certainly contributed to that impression.

    I'd tend to agree with you, I have often thought that 2015 may be a year that Mayo "take off" or are forced to "take off" more like, what with new management, road weariness etc.

    A very poor performance all round but it should be said that Dublin were up for it, seeing that a loss would have kept them in relegation zone.

    Tomorrow's results should cast a bit of light on what sort of points will be needed to make the top 4 and stay up, with two thought games to go one win should ensure that top 4 place, and thus at least one more game before the trip to Galway

    By the way Setanta was like Mayo TV tonight.
    Mike Fennerty on commentary, Liam McHale on analysis and Bill Joe on the sideline, and Horan in the studio for good measure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Barlett


    Anyone hear James Horan's take on it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Very sad day .Very sad as it was a wonderful evening and we should have seen exhibition football.
    Very disappointed that management didn't steady the ship when Dublin started their purple patch at 10 mins into it. It should have been steady the ship and limit the damage. Then push on.
    The reactions were far too late and were nowhere near effective.
    Thought our guys were afraid to touch Connelly.our knockouts were horrendously slow and were forced to the middle of the park where we lost all breaking ball. Our to major breaking ball sweepers Are not doing that role this year. That is McLaughlin and Keegan. Keegan's play all of this league is abysmal. His shot choices and passing are terrible.
    Positives. This year a Oshea. Can't fault his work. Tonight I didn't think I would be saying this but was delighted to see Dillon coming in. There was very little intelligence in the forward 6. Our full forward line for 10 mins in the second half was Sweeney and Donaldson. We pumped high balls in with our smallest players there.
    Got to stop but my final thought after that was changed expectations.
    Maybe horans player selection and especially positioning was as good as it gets. Disappointed with and for the management team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,530 ✭✭✭davegrohl48


    A lot of problems to solve after that:
    - Midfield partner of Seamus OShea needs running speed and that is not Vaughan.
    - The half backline all three of them were soloing, handpassing backwards, running the ball inside the Dublin 45, but never simply kicking the ball in long. It's like they're on a different page tactically to the rest of the team.
    - Doherty, McGloughlin, Diarmuid OConnor hardly a ball kicked into the two target men all night.
    Dillon needs to come in as he immediately flighted a long early ball to OShea.
    Tom Parsons can't get fit soon enough. Keith Higgins should be tried wing back and instructed to launch ball long. He's getting on ball too deep in our half. Somehow get him freer further up the pitch with instructions to kick long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    Brutal display. I cannot understand why the two guys on the sideline did not make one change to combat the dublin attack. At the moment these guys are way out of their dept and I am worried ... tyrone game and now this game, so a little pattern is starting.

    I hope they C&H can make a go of it but it could end up that we let the best man to manage mayo go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Have had time to reflect on a thoroughly disappointing evening.For some time now I have concerns re Tom Cunniffe at corner back..error prone.After a promising start Tom's 2 errors were responsible for coughing up 1-1 to Dublin without them breaking as much as a sweat.It seemed to cause our lads to go into a collective shellshock and check our momentum.

    A common denominator in this clash and the Tyrone game has been the tardiness of the management in making changes.Changes were required midway through the first half.Poor Kevin McLoughlin was having a nightmare,distribution way off and one awful wide from a free.Things changed very little as the game progressed.Jim Gavin and Eamonn Fitzmaurice are not afraid to make changes....Bryan Sheehan against Cork last week.
    There were a multitude of changes that could have been made.The obvious change was to bring on Danny Kirby,the change came far too late.I was never as happy to see Alan Dillon make an appearance,he still has an intelligence in his final years lacking in some of the younger lads.

    Our much vaunted half back line,in particular Lee Keegan are out of sorts.They are great on the front foot but can't at present perform their primary duty to defend.Keith Higgins at times reminds me of the boy plugging multipile holes in the dyke except he was under pressure himself last night.Our middle 8 are failing win primary possession or breaking ball.Donal Vaughan is not the solution at midfield with his obvious lack of mobility.

    The persistence on the use of the handpass to the bursting player is killing us.We require much more emphasis on quick direct and ACCURATE footpassing inside from our halfbacks.Donie Buckley's much vaunted coaching in the tackle and ensuring correct execution of passing is not much in evidence this year.It was amazing how often we turned over possession,when Dublin lost possession we almost invariably made an error and gave it back immediately.

    Cluxton's kickouts were a joy to behold,supreme execution but it was mindboggling the amount of space the Dublin lads had so he could pick them out.

    In the forwards I'm not convinced the athleticism of young Diarmuid O Connor is enough at this level at the current time.It was very hard to understand putting 2 small men inside Ronaldson and McLoughlin and subsequently Michael Sweeney was going to be a smart idea for winning a high ball in the second half.

    Alan Freeman did not always get quality ball but started off quite well in the half forward line before fading.It appears we will be looking to an injury free Cillian O Connor to carry us up front...very worrying.

    Not too many positives but I can only laud Aidan O Shea with the highest of praise...he again was the one carrying the game to the opposition.We appear to need him in the middle and at full forward?

    It was a very sad night for the players,gutted for them.It is the league but they looked way off the pace/leggy relative to the spring in their step Dubs.Is this a result of 4 hard years on the road or a heavy week's training?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,266 ✭✭✭✭km79


    I did not quote the post above as its quite long but it NAILED it. spot on! my thoughts exactly. Keegan mcloughlin and the management are my main concerns after last night. mcloughlin seems to be immune from being subbed and is playing somewhat on his reputation of TWO years ago!
    anyway I also hope it was down to a heavy weeks physical training as some of them genuinely looked like they had not seen a ball in a week!
    also make no mistake we are COMPLETELY reliant on Cillian. for his frees , his strength , his passing and his scoring ability. he is our forward line


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    km79 wrote: »
    I did not quote the post above as its quite long but it NAILED it. spot on! my thoughts exactly. Keegan mcloughlin and the management are my main concerns after last night. mcloughlin seems to be immune from being subbed and is playing somewhat on his reputation of TWO years ago!
    anyway I also hope it was down to a heavy weeks physical training as some of them genuinely looked like they had not seen a ball in a week!
    also make no mistake we are COMPLETELY reliant on Cillian. for his frees , his strength , his passing and his scoring ability. he is our forward line

    Said this too last night. Take Cillian out of that forward line and you're left with forwards who are very light on firepower. There's no go to man in there who will consistently get you scores. Chopping and changing won't work either.

    Aidan O'Shea needs to be played in one position. Stop moving him around, either move onto the edge or the square or deeper, not both.

    Hennelly's kickouts were poor. We need to sort this. Donal Vaughan is not a midfielder either. There could be another role for him but it's not in midfield.

    Overall we were an absolute mess last night. All over the shop, not organised and without a gameplan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    Very worrying stuff from the 2 guys on the line. Vaughan is not a Midfield option and never will be. To move him into eleven then of all places was a shock to the system. Vaughan either starts at wing-back or he doesn't start. Durcan struggled and I could not believe that switch was never made.

    I echoed these sentiments after the Tyrone game and not alot has changed. Boyler looks miles off the pace, he was blowin hard towards the end last night. As mentioned already I hope this is down to the training schedule and not the 4 hard years which have gone before. We looked awful leggy all over the pitch, no intensity and it truly was men against boys.

    Noel & Pat failed their secong biggest test. Wheres the logic in playing DOC after him playing an U-21 match a few days previous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 155 ✭✭HighKing33


    Better off learning these lessons in the league than being exposed in the summer. Dublin, to give them their due were outstanding. Mayo looked fired up going forward but were a shambles at the back, the midfield sat way too deep and invited Dublin on to them.

    A lot of the complaints above could apply just as easily to the Horan era- obsessively running the ball down the middle, poor delivery off the boot, etc. The biggest issue concerning Aidan O'Shea's deployment as a forward is his absence contesting kickouts at midfield, that's a dilemma but it's easily resolved - just move him back to the centre and play a work-horse at 11 who'll drop deep into a defensive role, e.g. McLoughlin or Vaughan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    A bad defeat at home to the dubs but no need to panic yet. One more win will likely be enough for Mayo to reach another league semi final and a better more focused outfit will be seem then. With no championship game until mid June I also think it's important that they get another run out in Croke park in April.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    thought the game on Sunday was a strange one. Mayo made Dublin look great. No team in the championship will offer the dubs that space, so we learned nothing. The dubs needed the points Mayo didn't and that's how they looked too.
    the Mayo half back line need to check the numbers on their shirts.

    They gave McManaman huge space to run into or step back into.

    Funnily, points aside Mayo could benefit more from this game that Dublin. I hope that was a once off, this is a great bunch of Mayo players, I'd hate to see them wasted by poor management.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    The Connacht U-21 Football Championship resumes this Saturday where Mayo will take on Galway in the Eirgrid Connacht GAA U-21 Football Championship Semi-Final. Mayo U-21 Manager Niall Heffernan has made just one change to the team from that which beat Leitrim last Wednesday week. After impressing off the bench in the Quarter-Final victory over Leitrim, Conor Loftus comes into the side in the place of Brian Reape. The Mayo U-21 Football Team to face Galway in the Eirgrid Connacht GAA U-21 Football Championship Semi-Final this Saturday 21st March at 5.00p.m. at Elverys MacHale Park is as follows:

    1.) Matthew Flanagan - Balla
    2.) Michael Hall - Breaffy
    3.) David Kenny - Aghamore
    4.) James Stretton - Claremorris
    5.) Patrick Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels
    6.) Stephen Coen - Hollymount/Carramore
    7.) Sean Regan - Ballina Stephenites
    8.) Diarmuid O'Connor - Ballintubber
    9.) Val Roughneen - Balla
    10.) T.J. Byrne - Kiltimagh
    11.) Adam Gallagher - Mayo Gaels (Capt.)
    12.) Darren McHale - Knockmore
    13.) Cian Burke - Ballymun Kickhams
    14.) Conor Loftus - Crossmolina Deel Rovers
    15.) James Durcan - Castlebar Mitchels

    16.) Sean Shaughnessy - Ballinrobe
    17.) Kevin Lynch - Mayo Gaels
    18.) Eddie Doran - Achill
    19.) Matthew Ruane - Breaffy
    20.) Michael Plunkett - Ballintubber
    21.) Brian Reape - Bohola Moy Davitts
    22.) Eoghan Lavin - Kiltimagh
    23.) Darragh Ruane - Bohola Moy Davitts
    24.) Steven Conroy - The Neale


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    The lads will need to up their performance significantly one suspects to prevail.Matthew Ruane is a tad unlucky not to get a starting spot after a strong showing off the bench.Roscommon sure gave Sligo an almighty hammering on Wednesday night.They shall be formidable opposition for either team over the Easter weekend.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Galway 1-12 Mayo 11


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Mayo beaten by the better team. Diarmuid O'Connor's black card and the Galway goal straight after was the turning point. Mayo's senior players generally done okay.

    Poor enough crowd in Castlebar, it was a fine evening too. Rugby probably made more than a few stay in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Audioslaven


    ColeTrain wrote: »
    Mayo beaten by the better team. Diarmuid O'Connor's black card and the Galway goal straight after was the turning point. Mayo's senior players generally done okay.

    Poor enough crowd in Castlebar, it was a fine evening too. Rugby probably made more than a few stay in.

    I have heard stories that the players are not gone on the U21 management, not sure how true this is, so I was not surprise they lost anyway.


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