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The Flash [** Spoilers ** ==> US pace]
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EoinMcLovin wrote: »Robbie Amell and Stephen Amell are cousins not brothers
Ah, I see. Just jumped to the conclusion they were brothers on account of the name and similarity in appearance. Well at least Robbie's not like his cousin then...
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Crazy random theory time..
Wells is acting as a/the reverse Flash in order to push Barry harder. To motivate him to develop his speed to its full potential. Every action he's taken so far has been to protect Barry and ensure that the future he knows comes to pass - same thing this week, the (rogue) army unit were becoming too much of a threat so had to be removed.
Maybe Wells IS the future Barry and has been around since the night his mother got killed (remember Joe saying that Wells seemed to just "appear" in the city), and used his knowledge of the future to setup Star Labs and ultimately lead to the creation of The Flash - ie: the flashback where he actually watched Barry being hit by the lightning blast.As I said just above, we know who *A* Reverse Flash is... but remember that Wells and a yellow speedster had a bit of a barney a few weeks back as well. I think that the Reverse Flash we saw last night is not the same as the one we saw face off against Barry - unless Wells's suit can operate autonomously OR Wells has found a way to move so fast that he can literally appear to be in two places at once!
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Agent Coulson wrote: »I feel like a complete Wally not getting my head around this time travel thing and how many Flashes & Reverse Flashes there is on this show.0
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Just to confirm what you're saying Kaiser - you think Wells is Barry from the future i.e. Barry went back in time to try and stop the reverse flash from killing his mother and has been there since....so he's been working until this point to getting back to the moment in time he went back from, in the process training Barry and ensuring he's able to go back and not make the same mistake again.....however, if Barry is successful in stopping his mother from being killed then that creates an alternate universe, one in which Wells never creates Star Labs which was the reason for Barry getting his powers etc. So is that Wells end game, to help Barry succeed and prevent Star Labs from being created, along with all the metahumans it created as a knock on effect.
It's interesting and something I hadn't considered. I think most people had assumed that Wells is the reverse flash and is doing this for some unknown personal gainThe actors they chose look similar enough if you squint your eyes I suppose. They have similar builds at least so it's not the most ridiculous casting I've ever seen. If your theory is correct and that Wells is Barry from the future, then you have to hand it to the show runners for some forethought.
I'm not sure I believe the people behind the show are thinking that far ahead to be honest.
I dunno. It wouldn't surprise me. They seem to be doing pretty well with the continuity and direction of the story so far. Each episode reveals something new to the arc with very little filler.
I think Wells being just an alternate/reverse/evil Flash is too predictable/easy.. having him turn out to be Future Barry would be a cool twist and fits with what we've seen so far in terms of him pushing/mentoring/protecting Barry and the lengths he'll go to.. no younger Barry = no him after all!
You could also read into the idea that Wells almost always refers to Barry as "Mr Allen" (perhaps trying to keep a subtle distance from his younger self so as not to arouse suspicion/questions?)
Anyway, if it turns out I'm right though then remember, you heard it here first! :PEoinMcLovin wrote: »this is answered in the promo for episodes to come
Must look that up later so. [EDIT: Couldn't wait!
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yeah but that could be risidual effects of the suit, remember when he was walking and then suddenly he fell and said "not now" like he knew it would happen but it was a bad time, is was probably the residual effect of using the suit, it allows him to walk and run fast when hes using it, and the effects last for a period of time when he takes it off, but they do wear off, thats why hes trying to stabalise the suits effect with that device he stole, but its still not enough,Are you forgetting a few weeks ago when the glass roof at Well's house broke? He ran out of the way with super speed......without the suit on. He was in jeans.
we've seen wells fall when he was walking, with no one around, so he is crippled, its the suit that allows him to walk, that why i say hes not a metahuman, but the suit is definitely a product derived form something wells found out during the particle accelerator explosion,
also wells must have been around for 20 of so years, building STAR labs to what it is now, i doubt he cam from the future and had STAR labs up and running in less than 5 years, hes obviously been around, surely people would be wondering where the hell this billionaire came out of, barry was reading a book about him on the train, so he must have a past thats not the future,
i think the wells is future barry story is coming from a lot of people watchingpredestinationlately 0 -
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I don't like raining on your "Well's is future Barry theory" but wouldn't his DNA have been a match to the wall sample and wouldn't it have been flagged sooner that Wells and Barry have the same if not similar DNA.
Just saying.
Following on from your point Wells is neither future Barry or the man in yellow from the night of the murder. DNA etc etcI think Wells will admit having speed force and being from the future to Cisco but will deny being THE man in yellow ( even though he is A man in yellow). But because of the hologram that Cisco finds next episode nobody believes him.
I think Wells is a descendant of Barry while the other man in yellow is either a decendant of Barry's rival for Iris, or the man himself Eddie Thawne
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yeah but that could be risidual effects of the suit, remember when he was walking and then suddenly he fell and said "not now" like he knew it would happen but it was a bad time, is was probably the residual effect of using the suit, it allows him to walk and run fast when hes using it, and the effects last for a period of time when he takes it off, but they do wear off, thats why hes trying to stabalise the suits effect with that device he stole, but its still not enough,
we've seen wells fall when he was walking, with no one around, so he is crippled, its the suit that allows him to walk, that why i say hes not a metahuman, but the suit is definitely a product derived form something wells found out during the particle accelerator explosion,
also wells must have been around for 20 of so years, building STAR labs to what it is now, i doubt he cam from the future and had STAR labs up and running in less than 5 years, hes obviously been around, surely people would be wondering where the hell this billionaire came out of, barry was reading a book about him on the train, so he must have a past thats not the future,
i think the wells is future barry story is coming from a lot of people watchingpredestinationlately
When he fell on the way to his secret room, did he not say something to the computer about not being able to maintain his connection to the speedforce?
I don't think sppedforce has been mentioned to Barry - ie. Barry just thinks he is quick rather than accessing some universal charge. It could be Wells is losing his connection to the speed force, and the suit empowers him to access it easier. So the suit helps him, rather than being the source of the speed. Also, he visibly heals in one ep - so his body has regenerative powers.
Another issue with the Reverse Flash/Wells/Edward issue is the fight Barry had with him. Edward and Wells were both in the room, and Wells was contemplating the need to get out of his chair. Why get out, out of fear of himself?
All very tangled and interesting, as it should be.
What I don't get is why Cisco, Katelyn and Barry - all seemingly nice people - have apparently no moral issue with indefinitely locking up the other 'meta-humans' in solitary confinement. The one especially getting me is Peek-a-boo. She was a petty criminal too in love with a scumbag - and she is sentenced without trial to a life in solitary confinement? Seems very harsh and I just can't get my head around everyone being perfectly ok with it.0 -
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