Useless Operation Transformation Trainer (Karl Henry)

Transform · 28-01-2015 08:57AM

bluewolf wrote: »

I know people hate grammar nazis, but if that's how he's selling himself, it just looks careless

Didn't even notice the dates ^^

Anyway I'm sure he's lovely

that sir made me laugh.

he is actually a nice bloke but again as in mentioned - its his delivery and IMO you only get good at delivery when you've worked with a couple hundred clients years after years

Transform · 28-01-2015 08:59AM

Magenta wrote: »

+1000. I'm no PT but anyone with a basic knowledge of fitness knows that a 26 stone man jogging is going to be putting a lot of unneccessary pressure on his joints which is silly when there's several other types of cardio that would be just as beneficial to him for weight loss. He should be on an elleptical or bike but sure they have that all important 5K to train for........

The Facebook page makes me cringe sometimes. Not the posts by OT, but the comments from some people- this show is literally their bible for weight loss and they can't or won't educate themselves any further.

you cant help everyone as some people just want to do it the hard way and end up hurt

28-01-2015 09:02AM

Transform wrote: »

that sir made me laugh.

he is actually a nice bloke but again as in mentioned - its his delivery and IMO you only get good at delivery when you've worked with a couple hundred clients years after years

Lady :pac:

Transform · 28-01-2015 09:12AM

norwegianwood wrote: »

Anyone look at how much this guy is actually charging for personal training? 70 euro per session and 650 for a block of 10...nah, you're alright Karl.:pac:

dude i charge more than that so its not out of line with the top people out there.

plenty of good trainers out there charging €70+ and ive been mentoring a guy that was charging just €10 a session and he is a fantastic trainer (will be billion times better after im finished with him also).

price is not always a direct indicator of competency, who the person has interned with might be.

Karl had his dad (Pat Henry) as a mentor and even though hes a great guy his methods are outdated to say the least

e.g. recently

Pat henry -

"when you train with heavy resistence in the legs you will not burn fat"

"heavy weights will take away natural curves in women"

his whole take on nutrition is shocking. it reads like a list of old wives tales.

Its just a pity but overall i dont really bother as good trainers are too busy tending to their own grass

Transform · 28-01-2015 09:14AM

bluewolf wrote: »

Lady :pac:

had to read that again - jesus it does read like one of "thats what she said" lines.

28-01-2015 09:24AM

I did say it!

Transform · 28-01-2015 09:31AM

bluewolf wrote: »

I did say it!

.....of to work on my 'delivery' so, tough life.

norwegianwood · 28-01-2015 10:57AM

Transform wrote: »

dude i charge more than that so its not out of line with the top people out there.

plenty of good trainers out there charging €70+ and ive been mentoring a guy that was charging just €10 a session and he is a fantastic trainer (will be billion times better after im finished with him also).

price is not always a direct indicator of competency, who the person has interned with might be.

Karl had his dad (Pat Henry) as a mentor and even though hes a great guy his methods are outdated to say the least

e.g. recently

Pat henry -

"when you train with heavy resistence in the legs you will not burn fat"

"heavy weights will take away natural curves in women"

his whole take on nutrition is shocking. it reads like a list of old wives tales.

Its just a pity but overall i dont really bother as good trainers are too busy tending to their own grass

I was just taken aback, maybe because I'm a student and that'd be about the amount of money I have in a year.

I dunno, I can understand someone charging that much when they're shown to get good results and know what they're talking about which it seems like you have, but this guy seems like someone that just got lucky to me more than anything.

Frigga_92 · 28-01-2015 11:22AM

bluewolf wrote: »

Went off to his PT page to see was he a former contestant

No protein

I he I he I him
Needs a bit of a revamp =/

He must have changed his tune recently because he came to an office I used to work in (about 5 years ago) to give a lunchtime talk on health and fitness etc. and was telling everyone that they should have at least one day a week where they just have fruit and veg juices and no other food.

Magenta · 28-01-2015 12:33PM

http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/fitness/pat-henrys-top-10-tips-to-keep-the-weight-off-30029703.html

Celebrity trainer Pat Henry gives his 10 tips to maintain your weight loss.

1. Turn down your heating it will increase fat burning.

7. Have a fruit-only day to cleanse: pears or grapes plus water over 24 hours.

8. Don't use heavy weights, keep it light.

Ughhhhh

Alf Veedersane · 28-01-2015 12:40PM

Magenta wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/fitness/pat-henrys-top-10-tips-to-keep-the-weight-off-30029703.html

Celebrity trainer Pat Henry gives his 10 tips to maintain your weight loss.

1. Turn down your heating it will increase fat burning.

7. Have a fruit-only day to cleanse: pears or grapes plus water over 24 hours.

8. Don't use heavy weights, keep it light.

Ughhhhh

Where do I sign up to give him my hard-earned euro-dollars?

groovyg · 28-01-2015 01:41PM

Magenta wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/fitness/pat-henrys-top-10-tips-to-keep-the-weight-off-30029703.html

Celebrity trainer Pat Henry gives his 10 tips to maintain your weight loss.

1. Turn down your heating it will increase fat burning.

:pac: One of panel was on the Nicky byrne show and said the exact same thing! Is that really true or total bs?

norwegianwood · 28-01-2015 01:44PM

Your BMR does increase when external temperature is colder because the body needs to work harder to maintain homeostatsis, but the amount of calories you'd actually be burning that way would be negligible, never heard anyone actually recommend that for weight loss before!

Alf Veedersane · 28-01-2015 01:56PM

norwegianwood wrote: »

Your BMR does increase when external temperature is colder because the body needs to work harder to maintain homeostatsis, but the amount of calories you'd actually be burning that way would be negligible, never heard anyone actually recommend that for weight loss before!

The money you would save from not turning on the heating would be enough to cover all the sessions with Karl.

Essien · 28-01-2015 03:28PM

norwegianwood wrote: »

Your BMR does increase when external temperature is colder because the body needs to work harder to maintain homeostatsis, but the amount of calories you'd actually be burning that way would be negligible, never heard anyone actually recommend that for weight loss before!

It sounds plausible enough to be believable, and there's no exercise or dieting involved. Lazy people with no real intentions of ever losing weight love that type of ****, these guys know their audience.

Magenta · 28-01-2015 03:31PM

groovyg wrote: »

:pac: One of panel was on the Nicky byrne show and said the exact same thing! Is that really true or total bs?

Given the amount of people who freeze their asses off due to Irish landlords' obsession with storage heating..... I'd expect us to be a much skinnier nation if it actually made a difference!

Alf Veedersane · 28-01-2015 03:32PM

Magenta wrote: »

Given the amount of people who freeze their asses off due to Irish landlords' obsession with storage heating..... I'd expect us to be a much skinnier nation if it actually made a difference!

I must be the only one who finds storage heaters easy to manage...

evo2000 · 28-01-2015 03:36PM

Transform wrote: »

dude i charge more than that so its not out of line with the top people out there.

plenty of good trainers out there charging €70+ and ive been mentoring a guy that was charging just €10 a session and he is a fantastic trainer (will be billion times better after im finished with him also).

price is not always a direct indicator of competency, who the person has interned with might be.

Karl had his dad (Pat Henry) as a mentor and even though hes a great guy his methods are outdated to say the least

e.g. recently

Pat henry -

"when you train with heavy resistence in the legs you will not burn fat"

"heavy weights will take away natural curves in women"

his whole take on nutrition is shocking. it reads like a list of old wives tales.

Its just a pity but overall i dont really bother as good trainers are too busy tending to their own grass

You charge more than 650 euro for 10 sessions? are they hour long or? and what do you actually do thats worth that amount of money?

LuckyLloyd · 28-01-2015 04:40PM

evo2000 wrote: »

You charge more than 650 euro for 10 sessions? are they hour long or? and what do you actually do thats worth that amount of money?

He gets pretty incredible results with clients of all sorts of starting points and end goals!!

Hanley · 28-01-2015 04:42PM

evo2000 wrote: »

You charge more than 650 euro for 10 sessions? are they hour long or? and what do you actually do thats worth that amount of money?

He helps people be happy.

Transform · 28-01-2015 04:50PM

Hanley wrote: »

He helps people be happy.

The happiness cost extra

Transform · 28-01-2015 04:51PM

Transform wrote: »

The happiness cost extra

I put out a massive amount of free info so if people can't afford me then make use of all the free stuff I post up

evo2000 · 28-01-2015 06:32PM

Transform wrote: »

I put out a massive amount of free info so if people can't afford me then make use of all the free stuff I post up

Fair play, but surely more than 80 euro a session is abit on the pricey side,

I dont even pay near that for a entire month of MMA training and thats as often as i want, i dont understand how personal training fees are so extremely high!

More power too ya tho if your gettin it!

YFlyer · 28-01-2015 07:02PM

groovyg wrote: »

:pac: One of panel was on the Nicky byrne show and said the exact same thing! Is that really true or total bs?

Reason why Phelps could eat so much.

Alf Veedersane · 28-01-2015 07:10PM

evo2000 wrote: »

Fair play, but surely more than 80 euro a session is abit on the pricey side,

I dont even pay near that for a entire month of MMA training and thats as often as i want, i dont understand how personal training fees are so extremely high!

More power too ya tho if your gettin it!

A good PT has dedicated a lot of time, effort and money to be as good as they are.

I've been charged a lot more for a lot less through work.

Edit: tbf the MMA training and PT aren't comparable

nice_guy80 · 28-01-2015 07:40PM

How much is a golf lesson with a 'pro'??

Alf Veedersane · 28-01-2015 07:45PM

nice_guy80 wrote: »

How much is a golf lesson with a 'pro'??

Probably in the region of 30-35 for half an hour.

Dotcomdolly · 28-01-2015 08:07PM

Transform give good delivery for that money too ya know

NFH · 28-01-2015 08:46PM

Transform wrote: »

dude i charge more than that so its not out of line with the top people out there.

plenty of good trainers out there charging €70+ and ive been mentoring a guy that was charging just €10 a session and he is a fantastic trainer (will be billion times better after im finished with him also).

price is not always a direct indicator of competency, who the person has interned with might be.

Karl had his dad (Pat Henry) as a mentor and even though hes a great guy his methods are outdated to say the least

e.g. recently

Pat henry -

"when you train with heavy resistence in the legs you will not burn fat"

"heavy weights will take away natural curves in women"

his whole take on nutrition is shocking. it reads like a list of old wives tales.

Its just a pity but overall i dont really bother as good trainers are too busy tending to their own grass

Jesus Christ!

No offense man but I've been to chartered physiotherapists with multiple M.Sc. who charge €30 less than that for intensive hour long sessions! I'm sorry but no personal trainer can tell me they obtain specialty knowledge and skills worth that kind of money when other more highly trained health professionals charge less. That's one of my problems with personal trainers, there's an awful lot of going around acting like they're saving people when in reality they're just trying to see how much money the stupid rich people (who can't arsed doing it themselves) will pay! Do ya not get sick just of only training "people who can afford it". And lets be honest, the free stuff online is simply to help ya sleep at night

Alf Veedersane · 28-01-2015 08:51PM

NFH wrote: »

Jesus Christ!

No offense man but I've been to chartered physiotherapists with multiple M.Sc. who charge €30 less than that for intensive hour long sessions! I'm sorry but no personal trainer can tell me they obtain specialty knowledge and skills worth that kind of money when other more highly trained health professionals charge less. That's one of my problems with personal trainers, there's an awful lot of going around acting like they're saving people when in reality they're just trying to see how much money the stupid rich people (who can't arsed doing it themselves) will pay! Do ya not get sick just of only training "people who can afford it". And lets be honest, the free stuff online is simply to help ya sleep at night

If only there was a way out of paying that kind of money.

Useless Operation Transformation Trainer (Karl Henry)

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