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Is female ejaculation real?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭EoghanIRL


    you might want to go back and read my post
    I didnt say it was water............................... said it looked like water, to make the comparison for squirting

    Your post says " does that mean it's not pee" .


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    EoghanIRL wrote: »
    Your post says " does that mean it's not pee" .

    rhetorical question.

    due to people saying squirting isn't pee, because it doesn't smell like pee..................
    I thought that was obvious, but I take it you haven't read the rest of the thread?


  • Registered Users Posts: 410 ✭✭CK73


    Sure all you'd have to do is smell the sheets the next morning to know its piss. Some bang of piss off it!

    Seriously if it smells of pee... it is pee. However you will find a 'real' squirt doesn't, not even the next day.

    I'm terrible for not drinking enough in the day, so my pee tends to be quite yellow and can smell quite strong. I know it's a bad thing and I need to drink more water, but I don't get the urge and I forget.

    However, when I gush it is clear and smells sweet and there is no trace of ammonia at all. I didn't believe it myself to begin with and I was in my 30's before I met someone who knew how to get me to do this, so I've puzzled with it all before now and I know for me, it is not urine. There may be some fluids combined, I don't know, but there is no ammonia and it is clear, so when it comes out, it is a different fluid to pee.

    Please also take into consideration that only 7 women were used to make this conclusion. It wouldn't be sufficient to prove or disprove anything else scientifically, so why this? It's not even adequate for student research.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭Kevin McCloud


    Its definitely real, had to make the bedroom into a wetroom and install a sump pump.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,676 ✭✭✭flutered


    in my long and mostly very happy erotic and fulfilled sex life, may i say it is definatly not urine, the female is of the opinion that she is about to p, but similar to the male, no she does not


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    I think a cupful is an awful lot. However, the main problem with this study is they used 7 women, and only five of them are conclusive. According to the study, you can only actually "squirt" a small amount but I don't believe this. If my pee was like that, I'd be going to the doctor. I'm not saying women don't pee, or there isn't some element of urine in it but if my pee was clear to white, slightly sticky and smelled and tasted (apparently) sweet, I think it would be cause for concern. Not to be overly graphic but it does "gush" as the article claims. However, something that doesn't smell like pee, doesn't taste like pee (I'd imagine), doesn't look like pee and doesn't feel like pee... how can it be pee?

    They looked at the bladder in that study. I'm wondering if the excess water comes from the bladder but under goes a different process? I don't think the study is big enough to be taken overly seriously and I don't think it's detailed enough to draw any definite conclusions from it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    It's real alright.
    The first time I experienced it was with a young lady by the name of Aska Sykes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Chloris


    Your cervical muscles just cannot push lubricant out of your vagina at the rate necessary for it to be considered squirting. It's a biological impossibility.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭The Wild Bunch


    It's PISSING, People. P*ssing


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,941 ✭✭✭krustydoyle


    It can be whatever it wants to be..

    Doesn't stop me from absolutely loving it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭chrysagon


    Either way..im armed with a mop in the bedroom...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    I thought I had a squirter once. It turned out i just nicked a hole in her waterbed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭LorMal


    Partially true. Not only does she have to trust you but she also needs to know how to pleasure her own body and what it takes for her to orgasm first without a partner.

    Then with a partner, he (or she) needs to know how to pleasure a woman without worrying about their own needs first or watching the clock.

    All sounds like hard work. Can I watch telly while you work away yourself and sure you can give me a shout when you're nearly done?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,372 ✭✭✭LorMal


    CK73 wrote: »
    Seriously if it smells of pee... it is pee. However you will find a 'real' squirt doesn't, not even the next day.

    I'm terrible for not drinking enough in the day, so my pee tends to be quite yellow and can smell quite strong. I know it's a bad thing and I need to drink more water, but I don't get the urge and I forget.

    However, when I gush it is clear and smells sweet and there is no trace of ammonia at all. I didn't believe it myself to begin with and I was in my 30's before I met someone who knew how to get me to do this, so I've puzzled with it all before now and I know for me, it is not urine. There may be some fluids combined, I don't know, but there is no ammonia and it is clear, so when it comes out, it is a different fluid to pee.

    Please also take into consideration that only 7 women were used to make this conclusion. It wouldn't be sufficient to prove or disprove anything else scientifically, so why this? It's not even adequate for student research.

    think I'm going to puke..


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Is it also know as the cream of sum yung gal?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,148 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    It's PISSING, People. P*ssing

    Just a bit windy where I live.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,235 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    Just a bit windy where I live.

    Fanny farts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I'm assuming someone has already said this - but we need only look to the UK for an answer.

    The UK passed a bunch of (ridiculous to me) laws legislating pornography. They made it illegal to film people urinating during sex acts. Thus, if female ejaculation is pee, it is illegal to film. If it *is not* pee, then it is legal.

    Here is a quote from the governing body of such things in the UK.
    Therefore, unless it's very clear that what is being shown is indeed 'female ejaculation', as opposed to urolagnia, the Board's position has to be that scenes of this nature featuring liquid that might be urine have to be cut

    They clearly recognize that female ejaculation exists and is separate from urination.

    Several medical studies have shown that female ejaculation is not urine
    They and other researchers analyzed female ejaculatory fluid and found that it is not urine, but rather a combination of secretions from the paraurethral glands that chemically resemble prostate secretions in men.
    Constituents of female ejaculate Researchers isolated the fluid and found that in contrast to urine, it has higher levels of PAP, PSA and glucose and lower levels of creatinine.

    So - why do so many people think 'It's just pee' or 'fake'. Because - a lot of times it is. Like so many things in porn, it's a fantasy and reality doesn't live up. Doctors think that only *some* women can ejaculate. Some figures put the number as low at 10% (others as high as 50%). And, in the same way men have prostates and ejaculation through stimulation of the prostate is possible for any man (baring medical or psychological issue) only a tiny fraction of men will experience it.

    And, more importantly, the amount produced is quite small. This is no different than male ejaculation in porn - the adult film industry has used a number of 'tricks' to increase the volume of ejaculate because, well, I guess that is what people like.

    What you see in porn is frequently the product of an actress drinking a lot of water and urinating, a vaginal douche, creative camera work, plumbing or a combination of the above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭Titzon Toast


    Damn right it's real, and it's not pee either.
    From what I've read in this thread it's folk who haven't experienced it for themselves who are adamant that it's fake and it's pee etc.
    Anyone who's experienced it first hand (no pun intended) believes it to be real. Funny that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    Damn right it's real, and it's not pee either.
    From what I've read in this thread it's folk who haven't experienced it for themselves who are adamant that it's fake and it's pee etc.
    Anyone who's experienced it first hand (no pun intended) believes it to be real. Funny that.

    tbh, I think the study covers why it doesnt seem like pee.

    the bladder is filling more quickly and it has psa.

    UCDvet, makes the point that female ejaculation is real but doesn't "gush".
    If it gushes it has to be coming from somewhere else.

    From the study it seems, it's clear because the bladder and everything is working faster, it doesn't have time to become concentrated.

    I'm not entirely sure why people are bothered by the findings so much.

    If it gushes, it's diluted urine +psa. Could be very diluted, need more studies with women at different hydrated levels.

    I'm more interested in why the body has this ability to speed up the system and exactly what biological process triggers this. (what signal is being sent to the brain and where etc, )


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I'm assuming someone has already said this - but we need only look to the UK for an answer.

    The UK passed a bunch of (ridiculous to me) laws legislating pornography. They made it illegal to film people urinating during sex acts. Thus, if female ejaculation is pee, it is illegal to film. If it *is not* pee, then it is legal.

    actually its illegal to film female ejaculation either way, because on camera it's "indistinguishable" from pee.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    tbh, I think the study covers why it doesnt seem like pee.

    the bladder is filling more quickly and it has psa.

    UCDvet, makes the point that female ejaculation is real but doesn't "gush".
    If it gushes it has to be coming from somewhere else.

    From the study it seems, it's clear because the bladder and everything is working faster, it doesn't have time to become concentrated.

    I'm not entirely sure why people are bothered by the findings so much.

    If it gushes, it's diluted urine +psa. Could be very diluted, need more studies with women at different hydrated levels.

    I'm more interested in why the body has this ability to speed up the system and exactly what biological process triggers this. (what signal is being sent to the brain and where etc, )

    The study doesn't really cover it, it's just speculation and nothing conclusive but for some reason, IFLS has gone a bit tabloidy on this.

    Plus, it does "gush" or feel like gushing, even if it's ejaculation, and ejaculation can leave a mess. Doesn't go through the sheets but is uncomfortable enough to necessitate a towel.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    sup_dude wrote: »
    The study doesn't really cover it, it's just speculation and nothing conclusive but for some reason, IFLS has gone a bit tabloidy on this.

    Plus, it does "gush" or feel like gushing, even if it's ejaculation, and ejaculation can leave a mess. Doesn't go through the sheets but is uncomfortable enough to necessitate a towel.

    My point is, it has to come from somewhere.... you have a place it comes from that doesn't include kidneys/bladder?

    How much would you say you "gush"?

    and put some paper under the sheets and tell me it hasn't gone through the sheets.

    I'm not saying it isnt real, I'm saying that to be a 'cup' full, it has to be coming from the bladder.

    It would be interesting I think, if the same study was done with women who only let out a little, oppose to the "cup full". and test the constitutes of that fluid.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    My point is, it has to come from somewhere.... you have a place it comes from that doesn't include kidneys/bladder?

    How much would you say you "gush"?

    and put some paper under the sheets and tell me it hasn't gone through the sheets.

    I'm not saying it isnt real, I'm saying that to be a 'cup' full, it has to be coming from the bladder.

    It would be interesting I think, if the same study was done with women who only let out a little, oppose to the "cup full". and test the constitutes of that fluid.


    I'm my first post, I wondered if it was formed in the bladder through a seperate process. Actually, I think a lot of this post I've answered in the first post I wrote.

    It doesn't go through, we've checked. It still gushes though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    sup_dude wrote: »
    I'm my first post, I wondered if it was formed in the bladder through a seperate process. Actually, I think a lot of this post I've answered in the first post I wrote.

    It doesn't go through, we've checked. It still gushes though.

    I'm sure you have, place kitchen paper under sheets, and tell me it doesn't go through the sheets. Unless you have some really thick sheets, if your sheets are wet, so is your bed.
    ___
    Please study biology and tell me this separate process :) Even basic biology explains how they're connected.

    The study did mention that the bladders and kidneys were working at an accelerated rate, so there's something to that.

    I suspect if your ejaculation was tested, it would have the same constitutes as pee, + the extras.
    The question then, is the percentages and for that a greater number of women would have to be studied.

    But the point is,it's still coming from the bladder, which has to come from the kidneys, therefore it's still urine, albeit, possibly very diluted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    I'm sure you have, place kitchen paper under sheets, and tell me it doesn't go through the sheets. Unless you have some really thick sheets, if your sheets are wet, so is your bed.
    ___
    Please study biology and tell me this separate process :) Even basic biology explains how they're connected.

    The study did mention that the bladders and kidneys were working at an accelerated rate, so there's something to that.

    I suspect if your ejaculation was tested, it would have the same constitutes as pee, + the extras.
    The question then, is the percentages and for that a greater number of women would have to be studied.

    But the point is,it's still coming from the bladder, which has to come from the kidneys, therefore it's still urine, albeit, possibly very diluted.

    It doesn't go through the sheets, we checked straight after one time out of curiosity.
    I'm in my final year of a science degree. There's many processes we don't fully understand. The study just said the bladder was active. It also only studied a very very small number of women and limited to those producing over a cup. Over a cup is a huge amount of liquid so maybe it was pee. What I'm saying is that an ejaculate can also use a large amount (maybe not a full cup) but doesn't look, smell, taste or feel like pee. The diluted pee may be an explanation for the clearness or the smell. It doesn't really explain the stickiness or the sweetness of it. I also think that IFLS didn't do the greatest of jobs reporting the study.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    What is PSA? I keep thinking of the French rugby manager but he's pure piss so I guess it must be something else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    sup_dude wrote: »
    It doesn't go through the sheets, we checked straight after one time out of curiosity.
    I'm in my final year of a science degree. There's many processes we don't fully understand. The study just said the bladder was active. It also only studied a very very small number of women and limited to those producing over a cup. Over a cup is a huge amount of liquid so maybe it was pee. What I'm saying is that an ejaculate can also use a large amount (maybe not a full cup) but doesn't look, smell, taste or feel like pee. The diluted pee may be an explanation for the clearness or the smell. It doesn't really explain the stickiness or the sweetness of it. I also think that IFLS didn't do the greatest of jobs reporting the study.

    the psa could explain the stickiness.

    Like I said, use paper sheets, I guarantee if your bed sheets are getting wet, so is the mattress, the sheets don't magicly hold it, like some inverse sponge.
    __

    What is a large amount, if a cup is a huge amount?

    I don't know if I said it, I would like to see a study on women who squirt low amounts. I can imagine that some is just glands, but I can't see glands filling much more than an egg cup.

    Basically, I can't imagine female ejaculation, somehow being larger in amount than male ejaculation, there's nowhere, for it to be stored.

    If it is coming from the bladder, it's urine, by definition. Albeit probably heavily diluted, but that doesn't change what it is.

    Should this change/stop anyone from enjoying it? no, I don't think so. but I don't understand the up in arms against the likelihood.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭looking_around


    What is PSA? I keep thinking of the French rugby manager but he's pure piss so I guess it must be something else.

    Is my google better than your google?
    http://www.northernurology.com/articles/urologic_conditions/psa.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭Firewalkwithme


    Its very real and its not piss. I know from personal experience.


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