Is female ejaculation real?

Firewalkwithme

looking_around wrote: »

but the study is saying it;s urine AND PSA
just pointing that out.

Yes, it's not just piss!

looking_around

RDM_83 again wrote: »

This may be an idiotic question but surely in all the hours of porn somebody has managed to catch a glimpse of if it comes from the urethral opening and not the vaginal opening

tbh, I don't think porn wants it proven.

if it comes out of the urethra instead of the vagina, that will spoil alot of peoples view and opinion of it.

Many people who believe the study are already disturbed by the idea it might urine they're ingesting instead of some random godly woman fluid.

So I don't think it's in the interest of porn to "catch it". People can believe what they want this way.

People are silly creatures, and wills stop doing something they enjoy on the idea that "it is now dirty".

Firewalkwithme

looking_around wrote: »

People are silly creatures, and wills stop doing something they enjoy on the idea that "it is now dirty".

I won't. It's cool either way

orubiru

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

Ok, to try to reply to both of these I'll just say that I really don't care whether it is or is not piss when it comes to sex. I am simply trying to tell you that from my own experiences, there is a difference. It is mixed with something, perhaps it's the natural lubricants in the vagina but more of them than would normally be produced. At this stage I have to be crude. I've done more than dipped my finger in, I've had mouthfuls of both and thay are not the same.

As for the if it's mixed with something it's still wee point, let me ask you this. If I walk in to a bar and order a vodka and coke. I get a glass with the measure of vodka and a bottle of coke which I pour into the glass. There is now more coke than vodka in the glass so does that mean that it is now coke? Or is it still vodka? It's neither, it's vodka and coke, a mixture of two liquids creating another new liquid just like female ejaculate which is a mixture of more than one liquid other than piss. Therefore, it's not piss.

It's vodka and piss.

I hear ya now. Gonna agree with your POV. It's not only piss. I think we gotta accept though that it is mostly piss?

looking_around

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

I won't. It's cool either way

no I wouldn't either, but you have to admit, people in general are silly creatures who would.

Firewalkwithme

looking_around wrote: »

no I wouldn't either, but you have to admit, people in general are silly creatures who would.

I really don't know about that. If it's something a couple have been enjoying together (or a single woman), do you think they would stop if they heard it was piss? I seriously doubt it. Some might but I believe the majority wouldn't. That's just my opinion though so don't ask me for peer reviewed scientific papers on that matter

Firewalkwithme

orubiru wrote: »

I hear ya now. Gonna agree with your POV. It's not only piss. I think we gotta accept though that it is mostly piss?

Yes mostly but there is a special ingredient in there somewhere, like Secret Sauce

looking_around

Cartoon_Head wrote: »

I really don't know about that. If it's something a couple have been enjoying together (or a single woman), do you think they would stop if they heard it was piss? I seriously doubt it. Some might but I believe the majority wouldn't. That's just my opinion though so don't ask me for peer reviewed scientific papers on that matter

just have to read the comments on a squirting forum.

"well there's a new hard limit"
"science has to spoil everything."
"I can't believe I drank it, never drinking it again."

Many who like squirting seem to like/be ok with watersports as well, so they are unlikely to care.
But people who are strongly against urine play...this has just crossed the line for them.

I visit strange forums :pac:

JJayoo

Yup it's real and destroys bed sheets

Chloris

Are there any women on boards.ie who do this? It seems to be all men commenting on this topic, speculating based on women they've known who've done it. It's a lot easier to believe they made her gush than to accept that she just lost control of her urinary sphincter and p1ssed the bed.

I'm of the school of thought that seeing as the science behind it seems to point to it being urine, it's just a convenient explanation for all the misfortunate parties concerned.

osarusan

Chloris wrote: »

Are there any women on boards.ie who do this? It seems to be all men commenting on this topic, speculating based on women they've known who've done it. It's a lot easier to believe they made her gush than to accept that she just lost control of her urinary sphincter and p1ssed the bed.

I'm of the school of thought that seeing as the science behind it seems to point to it being urine, it's just a convenient explanation for all the misfortunate parties concerned.

CK73 has posted about it on this thread.

Firewalkwithme

Chloris wrote: »

It seems to be all men commenting on this topic, speculating based on women they've known who've done it.

Rubbish. I know how to draw it out of a woman easily. I can control it too because once you know what you are doing you get a feeling for it which makes it better for the woman and at the end of the day, that is the pupose of the excercise.

kylith

Chloris wrote: »

Are there any women on boards.ie who do this? It seems to be all men commenting on this topic, speculating based on women they've known who've done it. It's a lot easier to believe they made her gush than to accept that she just lost control of her urinary sphincter and p1ssed the bed.

I'm of the school of thought that seeing as the science behind it seems to point to it being urine, it's just a convenient explanation for all the misfortunate parties concerned.

I had a bf who was determined to make me squirt and he was successful. I had to point out to him though that while I have no problem with squirting per se, I do have a massive problem with pissing in my bed.

Firewalkwithme

kylith wrote: »

I have no problem with squirting per se, I do have a massive problem with pissing in my bed.

Look, I've apologised for that many times, can't you just let it go?? I had a few too many beers and when I woke up it was too late.

You got your new matress so can you just leave it now please??

The Wild Bunch

This threads given me a right chuckle

syklops

kylith wrote: »

CK73's or the PubMed one? If I've missed something please feel free to point it out.

CK73's.

kylith

syklops wrote: »

CK73's.

With the berocca? If she wants to then why not, but there are a lot of variables in terms of length of time of metabolisation of berocca, whether, if the bladder fills quickly, the concentration of berocca would be detectable, CK73's hydration at the time, etc. This is presumably why the study used chemical analysis to confirm that it has the same components as urine and abdominal ultrasound to confirm that the liquid comes from the bladder, rather than using tracer dyes themselves.

CK73

kylith wrote: »

Something more scientific than 'I dipped my finger in it and it didn't taste like wee'. Something more like this PubMed article which involved chemical analysis of the liquid (which found that it had the same creatine, urea, and uric acid as urine) and ultrasound of the abdomen to determine where the liquid was coming from (the bladder).

I, like another poster upthread, don't really understand what the 'it's not urine bruhaha' is about. So what if it's wee? Does that stop it being enjoyable? Or is it the psychological 'weeing on yourself' thing?

The variable here is the 'squirt' gush itself. You may have some ladies that are peeing and think they are gushing, as they have never experienced a real squirt. This is what I'm concerned about and since they did it with so few ladies I'm not sure they had enough ladies involved to make sure enough of them were actually squirting. Also how were they collecting it? Had it touched something else first? Was it pure? Were they going for the mid flow or the start or indiscriminate?

When I go to the doctors for a test done and they ask me for a urine sample they usually ask for mid flow, as the first bit is too concentrated. Maybe as the last activity in that area would have been connected with urine, there would be traces at the start?

I am trying to think logically as well as with my own experience and logic tells me that this experiment was not enough to give any kind of answer.

kylith

CK73 wrote: »

The variable here is the 'squirt' gush itself. You may have some ladies that are peeing and think they are gushing, as they have never experienced a real squirt. This is what I'm concerned about and since they did it with so few ladies I'm not sure they had enough ladies involved to make sure enough of them were actually squirting. Also how were they collecting it? Had it touched something else first? Was it pure? Were they going for the mid flow or the start or indiscriminate?

When I go to the doctors for a test done and they ask me for a urine sample they usually ask for mid flow, as the first bit is too concentrated. Maybe as the last activity in that area would have been connected with urine, there would be traces at the start?

I am trying to think logically as well as with my own experience and logic tells me that this experiment was not enough to give any kind of answer.

So, are you of the belief that it's not mostly urine?

ETA: variables are anything that can vary, and so effect the outcome of a test so it's not the 'squirt', it's the participants' hydration, metabolic rate, whether something they ingested would interfere with the tracker dye. Before performing any such study any responsible team would strive to either minimise or account for the variables as much as possible.

dr.bollocko

Good to see AH tackling gender issues in a mature manner.

CK73

kylith wrote: »

So, are you of the belief that it's not mostly urine?

ETA: variables are anything that can vary, and so effect the outcome of a test so it's not the 'squirt', it's the participants' hydration, metabolic rate, whether something they ingested would interfere with the tracker dye. Before performing any such study any responsible team would strive to either minimise or account for the variables as much as possible.

I am of the belief that it is not 'mostly' urine.

It's the lack of ammonia that puzzles me. There is absolutely no smell of ammonia at all, plus the colour difference. What is it in pee that makes it go yellow that is missing from a 'squirt'?

Humans are 90% water, at least that is what I have always been led to believe, so I would expect us to be able to pull fluid from other areas.

Another pause for thought... if I have a big wee, I feel relief and absolutely fine. If I have a big gush, I feel drained physically and get a headache. What is causing the headache? I believe this is a natural response to heavy gushing, so there is a connection there that is not in line with taking a pee.

kylith

CK73 wrote: »

I am of the belief that it is not 'mostly' urine.

It's the lack of ammonia that puzzles me. There is absolutely no smell of ammonia at all, plus the colour difference. What is it in pee that makes it go yellow that is missing from a 'squirt'?

Humans are 90% water, at least that is what I have always been led to believe, so I would expect us to be able to pull fluid from other areas.

Another pause for thought... if I have a big wee, I feel relief and absolutely fine. If I have a big gush, I feel drained physically and get a headache. What is causing the headache? I believe this is a natural response to heavy gushing, so there is a connection there that is not in line with taking a pee.

A change in colour is simply to do with hydration; if you bladder is filling fast then it is filling with mostly water. My wee when I'm properly hydrated is practically colourless. Dilute urine also does not smell of ammonia.

The headache is very possibly caused by one, another, or all factors of - blood pressure after orgasm, tension during orgasm, dehydration due to water being quickly leached from tissues into the bladder.

CK73

kylith wrote: »

A change in colour is simply to do with hydration; if you bladder is filling fast then it is filling with mostly water. My wee when I'm properly hydrated is practically colourless. Dilute urine also does not smell of ammonia.

The headache is very possibly caused by one, another, or all factors of - blood pressure after orgasm, tension during orgasm, dehydration due to water being quickly leached from tissues into the bladder.

That is something I'm happy to consider. I don't get a headache after an orgasm and I can have several. I've had up to 17 over a 12 hour period and no headache, yet one session with gushing can leave me with a dull headache.

I know the the concentration level influences how yellow pee can be. I don't drink enough, I'm continually having to be reminded and at the end of the day I'm more inclined to have a glass of wine, which makes it worse. Yet I can have yellow pee, but gushing still comes out clear.

I will admit that if I've not drank anything at all I can get the sensation of a gush without much coming out, so it is important to be hydrated, but then that does not necessarily mean you have a full bladder. I usually do go to the toilet before having any sexual contact, due to my earlier experience it's become a little bit of a phobia of mine.

looking_around

CK73 wrote: »

I am of the belief that it is not 'mostly' urine.

It's the lack of ammonia that puzzles me. There is absolutely no smell of ammonia at all, plus the colour difference. What is it in pee that makes it go yellow that is missing from a 'squirt'?

Humans are 90% water, at least that is what I have always been led to believe, so I would expect us to be able to pull fluid from other areas.

Another pause for thought... if I have a big wee, I feel relief and absolutely fine. If I have a big gush, I feel drained physically and get a headache. What is causing the headache? I believe this is a natural response to heavy gushing, so there is a connection there that is not in line with taking a pee.

My partner makes me "squirt/gush".

I don't get headaches.

tbh, I can take or leave squirting, but my partner loves it, and the intense stimulation leaves for fantastic orgasms.

never any headaches though,

Of course, if you aren't well hydrated, and the bladder and kidneys are working rapidly to pull this water from somewhere..that would lead to dehydration, which would lead to headaches.

CK73

looking_around wrote: »

My partner makes me "squirt/gush".

I don't get headaches.

tbh, I can take or leave squirting, but my partner loves it, and the intense stimulation leaves for fantastic orgasms.

never any headaches though,

Of course, if you aren't well hydrated, and the bladder and kidneys are working rapidly to pull this water from somewhere..that would lead to dehydration, which would lead to headaches.

That would make sense yes and wouldn't it be boring if we did the same thing every time? So agreed, it's something that is fun to do now and again and when you have a towel at hand, but I'd not want to do it every time or I'd be a bear with a sore head lol.

It does remind me to drink if I know it's on the cards though

LorMal

CK73 wrote: »

That is something I'm happy to consider. I don't get a headache after an orgasm and I can have several. I've had up to 17 over a 12 hour period and no headache, yet one session with gushing can leave me with a dull headache.

I know the the concentration level influences how yellow pee can be. I don't drink enough, I'm continually having to be reminded and at the end of the day I'm more inclined to have a glass of wine, which makes it worse. Yet I can have yellow pee, but gushing still comes out clear.

I will admit that if I've not drank anything at all I can get the sensation of a gush without much coming out, so it is important to be hydrated, but then that does not necessarily mean you have a full bladder. I usually do go to the toilet before having any sexual contact, due to my earlier experience it's become a little bit of a phobia of mine.

The reason for the headache is that you are falling off the spin dryer and hitting your head on the floor. Try strapping yourself down

CK73

LorMal wrote: »

The reason for the headache is that you are falling off the spin dryer and hitting your head on the floor. Try strapping yourself down

That's a lot of drying lol. I need to get the dryer out of the cupboard, it's getting rather awkward lol

Gummy Panda

I'm hoping its piss as i can easily scratch off two things off my list. No mess

Kevin McCloud

A few capri sun before riding is essential.