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**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

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  • #2972
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    Smidge wrote: »
    Now you know as well as I do that the above posts were in relation to the post about the DSP using PPS numbers to take the charge. I never said it HAD happened. I said it is wrong and should not be done.
    I can't be bothered playing silly beggars tbh

    That's not what it said. As above. Without reading back, its for the collection of the PPSN's for the allowances.


  • #2973
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »
    I didn't see any footage of them disrupting any ceremony? I did see some of the graduates out protesting with them after the ceremony though.

    Are you for real?


  • #2974
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    who is it being taken directly at source from?

    People had issues with giving their PPSN's to IW so the DSP will handle it. I didn't see any suggestion of it being taken at source, not that I'd have issue with it.

    It wouldn't be one group getting targeted anyway. SW recipients would have it taken from their SW, PAYE workers could have it deducted from their wages and self employed could be done through tax returns. That covers most households. Who's getting singled out?

    You edited your post after I posted.
    The two words in bold make a very great difference to what you say here.


  • #2975
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    spare_me wrote: »
    im failing to understand here

    do we think people should not have to pay for goods and services just because they dont feel like paying for them ?

    Yea, that's it. You got it in 1, literally:rolleyes:


  • #2976
    AboutaWeekAgo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭AboutaWeekAgo


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Are you for real?

    Care to expand a bit?


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  • #2977
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    Smidge wrote: »
    You edited your post after I posted.
    The two words in bold make a very great difference to what you say here.

    The second part is my opinion on how it could be done and I'd agree with it. The use of could and would are interchangeable in my post. Change them all to would if it suits.

    The fact that tinkersbell thanked your post proves that certain people aren't reading the thread, they just thank any post that supports "their side".

    Heres the article that was being discussed again.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/irish-water-to-be-stopped-from-collecting-pps-numbers-charge-to-be-capped-at-200-651189.html




    "It is also reported that Irish Water will not be given the power to make deductions from wages or social welfare payments for those who do not register"


  • #2978
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Are you for real?

    I did see one story of a SF councillor who graduated from An Cosan yesterday who then joined the protest outside.
    She respectfully received her award from the Tanaiste inside and then peacefully made her protest outside. I wouldn't have any problem with that.


  • #2979
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,076 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Hard to say.
    The measures to be announced next week might satisfy a lot of the protesters and more of them will be turned off by the scenes from yesterday and other protests in Coolock and elsewhere.
    On the other hand, the protest has grown bigger than the water issue alone and into a more general anti austerity protest.

    On the contrary.
    I played golf with lads today who were delighted with yesterday's protests.
    They intend being on the big one on Dec 10th too.
    These people were never on a march before.
    The sleeping giant has awakened.


  • #2980
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    The second part is my opinion on how it could be done.

    The fact that tinkersbell thanked your post proves that certain people aren't reading the thread, they just thank any post that supports "their side".

    Heres the article that was being discussed again.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/irish-water-to-be-stopped-from-collecting-pps-numbers-charge-to-be-capped-at-200-651189.html




    "It is also reported that Irish Water will not be given the power to make deductions from wages or social welfare payments for those who do not register"

    I thanked his post because you are 'playing silly beggars' with him.
    You've been doing it all day.


  • #2981
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    I thanked his post because you are 'playing silly beggars' with him.
    You've been doing it all day.

    Its terrible when someone doesn't just toe the line, isn't it?


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  • #2982
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    tayto lover wrote: »
    On the contrary.
    I played golf with lads today who were delighted with yesterday's protests.
    They intend being on the big one on Dec 10th too.
    These people were never on a march before.
    The sleeping giant has awakened.

    Why do they think its ok to harass people?


  • #2983
    ROCKMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ROCKMAN


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    spare_me wrote: »
    im failing to understand here

    do we think people should not have to pay for goods and services just because they dont feel like paying for them ?

    Sorry I was barely with you for a second :D...

    So you think its ok to pay for goods that are well below par or the required standard and for services that don't work or deliver in a lots of cases


  • #2984
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    AboutaWeekAgo wrote: »
    Care to expand a bit?

    You're trying to say that there was nothing interrupted?


  • #2985
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    tayto lover wrote: »
    On the contrary.
    I played golf with lads today who were delighted with yesterday's protests.
    They intend being on the big one on Dec 10th too.
    These people were never on a march before.
    The sleeping giant has awakened.

    Well, if your mates don't have a problem with it then nobody else possibly could!!


  • #2986
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Its terrible when someone doesn't just toe the line, isn't it?

    Maybe you should change your posting style.
    Half of it is borderline trolling.


  • #2987
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,076 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Why do they think its ok to harass people?

    They think Joan deserved it after her mobile phone jibes and her arrogance.


  • #2988
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Well, if your mates don't have a problem with it then nobody else possibly could!!

    But they play golf!!


  • #2989
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    ROCKMAN wrote: »
    Sorry I was barely with you for a second :D...

    So you think its ok to pay for goods that are well below par or the required standard and for services that don't work or deliver in a lots of cases

    If your not happy with the service, don't receive it. Head off and buy your water from the shop. Catch rainwater and drink/bath with it? Sink your own well. There are plenty of people around the country that have never been connected to the mains, but sure that grand , as long as its other people problem.


  • #2990
    AboutaWeekAgo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭AboutaWeekAgo


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    ThisRegard wrote: »
    You're trying to say that there was nothing interrupted?

    From all the footage and pictures I've seen, no nothing was interrupted. The protesters were outside the gates of the event, it's not like the all ran inside and stopped anything from taking place.


  • #2991
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,076 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Phoebas wrote: »
    Well, if your mates don't have a problem with it then nobody else possibly could!!

    Indeed.
    It's the cronyism that has angered most of them.
    They believe IW should be disbanded.
    It's a common opinion


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  • #2992
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    Tinkersbell wrote: »
    Maybe you should change your posting style.
    Half of it is borderline trolling.

    Questioning people isn't trolling. Asking why its ok to to behave in a certain way to some people but you if your subject to the same its wrong isn't trolling.

    Feel free to report any posts you don't agree with.


  • #2993
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Indeed.
    It's the cronyism that has angered most of them.
    They believe IW should be disbanded.
    It's a common opinion

    Its also a common opinion that its owned by Denis O'Brien.


  • #2994
    listermint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,358 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Its also a common opinion that its owned by Denis O'Brien.

    It's really not.

    Stop spreading this lie.


  • #2995
    Phoebas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Its also a common opinion that its owned by Denis O'Brien.

    Ah leave it out - Tayto was just future gazing when he said that.


  • #2996
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,076 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Its also a common opinion that its will be owned by Denis O'Brien.

    FYP


  • #2997
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Indeed.
    It's the cronyism that has angered most of them.
    They believe IW should be disbanded.
    It's a common opinion

    Indeed, I was out for a few scoops for the game on Friday with some of my mates and they are of the same opinion.
    One is a GP, another works in IT, another is a mechanic and the other lad is a butcher.
    All of the same opinion, what they can't understand is how a government can be so incompetent and allow the cronyism and corruption to continue as before.
    IW is a symptom of a broken form of governance and a government who has lost the trust of the people.


  • #2998
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    tayto lover wrote: »
    FYP

    No need to fix my post, it was right the first time.


  • #2999
    Tinkersbell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Tinkersbell


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »

    Feel free to report any posts you don't agree with.

    Na, couldn't be arsed.
    Other posters will form their own opinion of your posts.


  • #3000
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I would like Irish Water as a company to remain in it's current form
    listermint wrote: »
    It's really not.

    Stop spreading this lie.

    Im not spreading any lie. Have a read of facebook and itll give you plenty of evidence.


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  • #3001
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    spare_me wrote: »
    im failing to understand here

    do we think people should not have to pay for goods and services just because they dont feel like paying for them ?

    2 posts in?
    Spare me, for the love of god, please spare me :rolleyes:


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