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The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.*Mod instruction in OP*

  • 07-11-2014 07:57PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭SparkySpitfire


    Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

    Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

    It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

    What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

    When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

    It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?


    *Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example




    Mod

    Making sexist jokes in a thread highlighting an issue with misogyny isn't clever and against the charter. Expect infractions over the next while.

    Just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it isn't happening. It is easy to miss things not directed at you.

    The jokes stop here, if you want to discuss the issue at hand do so. You can agree or disagree but for God's sake be open minded enough to LISTEN to the people who it affects.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

    Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

    It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

    What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

    When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

    It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?


    *Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example

    Any examples?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    I've certainly noticed the place getting much nastier lately, it's more than a bit worrying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,740 ✭✭✭the evasion_kid


    “Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.”


    ― H.L. Mencken


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    Where is this taking place and is this another take on gamersgate?


    I have not seen this on boards or maybe ive been in the wrong / right threads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭Frank Lee Midere


    It's all very well starting these threads OP but who's making the tea?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

    Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

    It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

    What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

    When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

    It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?


    *Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example

    What happened when you reported the posts? You did report them, didn't you? I mean it would be pointless to create a thread here now and not report the offending posts? Otherwise people would think you're soapboxing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    Haven't noticed it in AH, maybe in tGC a bit. Life goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Examples needed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 Interstellar cellar


    Links234 wrote: »
    I've certainly noticed the place getting much nastier lately, it's more than a bit worrying.

    You need your head examined if you worry about the content of Internet forums.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭SparkySpitfire


    TheZohan wrote: »
    What happened when you reported the posts? You did report them, didn't you? I mean it would be pointless to create a thread here now and not report the offending posts? Otherwise people would think you're soapboxing.

    If I were to report every post I found misogynistic in nature the mods would be inundated and I'd be banned for pestering them. I did report one or two and they were dealt with though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭SparkySpitfire


    You need your head examine if you worry about the content of Internet forums.

    Internet forums are not populated by robots though, these are real people with real opinions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember


    This is AH so nothing is safe except what the mods say is safe ( bow, grovel, tugs forelock, yes m'lud) but true misogyny is despicable. If there's a deflation of pompous self regarding Beyoncé "run the world" type ****e , good; if there are attacks on the reverse sexism of rabid feminist fundamentalism, good. But hating women because they're women is twisted thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    I think you're seeing what you want to see OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭SparkySpitfire


    Valetta wrote: »
    Any examples?

    You want me to name and shame people? Why don't you have a look for yourself or maybe just discuss the topic at hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 404 ✭✭DemocAnarchis


    This reads like one of those vaguely passive-aggressive Facebook statuses. Some kind of detail is needed or this thread is pointless.


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,251 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Links234 wrote: »
    I've certainly noticed the place getting much nastier lately, it's more than a bit worrying.

    I think people (that is, a nasty minority of them) are getting called out on it more, which leads to them becoming more vocal as they feel their views are being persecuted.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    If I were to report every post I found misogynistic in nature the mods would be inundated and I'd be banned for pestering them. I did report one or two and they were dealt with though.

    You wouldn't, you'd be helping the mods. Mods appreciate it when posters report posts that are against the charter.

    There's no point in creating a melodramatic thread if you're not willing to report posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    You need your head examine if you worry about the content of Internet forums.

    Absolutely, if you get upset over the content of things on the internet you need to reevaluate your priorities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    If I were to report every post I found misogynistic in nature the mods would be inundated and I'd be banned for pestering them. I did report one or two and they were dealt with though.

    I doubt you would be banned for reporting a a post you found misogynistic. Although that's not to say the mods will always agree with you.

    What you may find misogynistic is not what others may necessarily agree with.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    If you disregard any poster with less than 50 posts has it got any worse?

    Also
    Disliking 3rd Wave Feminism ≠ Misogyny


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  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've noticed a worrying trend on boards of people insisting that the sky is green. I'm not going to give any examples though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭SparkySpitfire


    This reads like one of those vaguely passive-aggressive Facebook statuses. Some kind of detail is needed or this thread is pointless.

    It might be another charter I'm getting confused with but I thought you weren't allowed give out about particular posters or threads?

    I think some people don't see it because it wouldn't apply to them so they wouldn't notice it as much.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    You want me to name and shame people? Why don't you have a look for yourself or maybe just discuss the topic at hand?

    You brought up.the issue, you could at least give some examples.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Internet forums are not populated by robots though, these are real people with real opinions.

    Still no examples...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 14 Interstellar cellar


    Internet forums are not populated by robots though, these are real people with real opinions.

    People posting opinions on the Internet isn't really something to worry about, for a start people are much more extreme on the Internet than in real life.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you disregard any poster with less than 50 posts has it got any worse?

    Aye that's about the height of it.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    smcgiff wrote: »
    Still no examples...

    Stop mansplaining.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Roquentin


    Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

    Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

    It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

    What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

    When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

    It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?


    *Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example

    the mask of anonymity brings out the cynic in us all


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    People posting opinions on the Internet isn't really something to worry about, for a start people are much more extreme on the Internet than in real life.

    What's that Oscar Wilde quote about a mask ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Historical date , first woman spotted on boards.ie


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