The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.Mod instruction in OP

SparkySpitfire · 07-11-2014 07:57PM #1

Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?

*Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example

Mod

Making sexist jokes in a thread highlighting an issue with misogyny isn't clever and against the charter. Expect infractions over the next while.

Just because you don't see something, doesn't mean it isn't happening. It is easy to miss things not directed at you.

The jokes stop here, if you want to discuss the issue at hand do so. You can agree or disagree but for God's sake be open minded enough to LISTEN to the people who it affects.

Valetta · 07-11-2014 07:58PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?

*Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example

Any examples?

Links234 · 07-11-2014 07:59PM

I've certainly noticed the place getting much nastier lately, it's more than a bit worrying.

the evasion_kid · 07-11-2014 08:00PM

“Misogynist: A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.”

― H.L. Mencken

The_Valeyard · 07-11-2014 08:00PM

Where is this taking place and is this another take on gamersgate?

I have not seen this on boards or maybe ive been in the wrong / right threads.

Frank Lee Midere · 07-11-2014 08:02PM

It's all very well starting these threads OP but who's making the tea?

Fr_Dougal · 07-11-2014 08:03PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?

*Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example

What happened when you reported the posts? You did report them, didn't you? I mean it would be pointless to create a thread here now and not report the offending posts? Otherwise people would think you're soapboxing.

Macavity. · 07-11-2014 08:03PM

Haven't noticed it in AH, maybe in tGC a bit. Life goes on.

Holsten · 07-11-2014 08:03PM

Examples needed.

Interstellar cellar · 07-11-2014 08:04PM

Links234 wrote: »

I've certainly noticed the place getting much nastier lately, it's more than a bit worrying.

You need your head examined if you worry about the content of Internet forums.

SparkySpitfire · 07-11-2014 08:05PM

TheZohan wrote: »

What happened when you reported the posts? You did report them, didn't you? I mean it would be pointless to create a thread here now and not report the offending posts? Otherwise people would think you're soapboxing.

If I were to report every post I found misogynistic in nature the mods would be inundated and I'd be banned for pestering them. I did report one or two and they were dealt with though.

SparkySpitfire · 07-11-2014 08:06PM

Interstellar cellar wrote: »

You need your head examine if you worry about the content of Internet forums.

Internet forums are not populated by robots though, these are real people with real opinions.

Cantremember · 07-11-2014 08:07PM

This is AH so nothing is safe except what the mods say is safe ( bow, grovel, tugs forelock, yes m'lud) but true misogyny is despicable. If there's a deflation of pompous self regarding Beyoncé "run the world" type ****e , good; if there are attacks on the reverse sexism of rabid feminist fundamentalism, good. But hating women because they're women is twisted thinking.

J Mysterio · 07-11-2014 08:07PM

I think you're seeing what you want to see OP.

SparkySpitfire · 07-11-2014 08:07PM

Valetta wrote: »

Any examples?

You want me to name and shame people? Why don't you have a look for yourself or maybe just discuss the topic at hand?

DemocAnarchis · 07-11-2014 08:07PM

This reads like one of those vaguely passive-aggressive Facebook statuses. Some kind of detail is needed or this thread is pointless.

GLaDOS · 07-11-2014 08:08PM

Links234 wrote: »

I've certainly noticed the place getting much nastier lately, it's more than a bit worrying.

I think people (that is, a nasty minority of them) are getting called out on it more, which leads to them becoming more vocal as they feel their views are being persecuted.

Fr_Dougal · 07-11-2014 08:08PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

If I were to report every post I found misogynistic in nature the mods would be inundated and I'd be banned for pestering them. I did report one or two and they were dealt with though.

You wouldn't, you'd be helping the mods. Mods appreciate it when posters report posts that are against the charter.

There's no point in creating a melodramatic thread if you're not willing to report posts.

wazky · 07-11-2014 08:09PM

Interstellar cellar wrote: »

You need your head examine if you worry about the content of Internet forums.

Absolutely, if you get upset over the content of things on the internet you need to reevaluate your priorities.

The_Valeyard · 07-11-2014 08:09PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

If I were to report every post I found misogynistic in nature the mods would be inundated and I'd be banned for pestering them. I did report one or two and they were dealt with though.

I doubt you would be banned for reporting a a post you found misogynistic. Although that's not to say the mods will always agree with you.

What you may find misogynistic is not what others may necessarily agree with.

RDM_83 again · 07-11-2014 08:09PM

If you disregard any poster with less than 50 posts has it got any worse?

Also
Disliking 3rd Wave Feminism ≠ Misogyny

07-11-2014 08:10PM

I've noticed a worrying trend on boards of people insisting that the sky is green. I'm not going to give any examples though.

SparkySpitfire · 07-11-2014 08:10PM

DemocAnarchis wrote: »

This reads like one of those vaguely passive-aggressive Facebook statuses. Some kind of detail is needed or this thread is pointless.

It might be another charter I'm getting confused with but I thought you weren't allowed give out about particular posters or threads?

I think some people don't see it because it wouldn't apply to them so they wouldn't notice it as much.

wazky · 07-11-2014 08:10PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

You want me to name and shame people? Why don't you have a look for yourself or maybe just discuss the topic at hand?

You brought up.the issue, you could at least give some examples.

smcgiff · 07-11-2014 08:10PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

Internet forums are not populated by robots though, these are real people with real opinions.

Still no examples...

Interstellar cellar · 07-11-2014 08:10PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

Internet forums are not populated by robots though, these are real people with real opinions.

People posting opinions on the Internet isn't really something to worry about, for a start people are much more extreme on the Internet than in real life.

07-11-2014 08:11PM

RDM_83 again wrote: »

If you disregard any poster with less than 50 posts has it got any worse?

Aye that's about the height of it.

07-11-2014 08:13PM

smcgiff wrote: »

Still no examples...

Stop mansplaining.

Roquentin · 07-11-2014 08:13PM

SparkySpitfire wrote: »

Over the past 2 weeks or so, there have been numerous threads where I've read (not necessarily posted in) and threads where I've seen scary amounts of misogyny (No I won't give examples, there's no need to start pointing fingers).

Now before anything else, I'm not saying every man on boards.ie is a dirty misogynist and they should be burnt at the stake! :mad:

It's only a small proportion of people, and that includes women too. What's scary is the amount of normal people who just drop these seemingly innocuous statements, that have such ugliness behind them.

What I want to know is, where are your wives? Your sisters? Your daughters? Your mothers? Your grandmothers? Your nieces? Your best friends?

When you make this statements against women, you're not thinking about them. You're thinking about those "other" women, those "other" women who only want to make trouble. But the reality is, when you make sweeping statements like "women these days pah"* there is no difference between those women and those you know and love.

It scares me that so many people out there have this below the surface dislike (I won't say hate) of women and when you're online and anonymous behind your computers or your phones, you feel its okay to make these statements. Why? Would you say these things in front of the women you love and respect in your life without a hint of embarrassment or guilt?

*Not an actual comment I've come across; just an example

the mask of anonymity brings out the cynic in us all

The_Valeyard · 07-11-2014 08:13PM

Interstellar cellar wrote: »

People posting opinions on the Internet isn't really something to worry about, for a start people are much more extreme on the Internet than in real life.

What's that Oscar Wilde quote about a mask

who the fug · 07-11-2014 08:13PM

Historical date , first woman spotted on boards.ie

The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.*Mod instruction in OP*

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The amount of misogyny on boards these days is frightening.Mod instruction in OP