Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

1…89111314…132

Comments

  • #302
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    My name is URL wrote: »
    He wouldn't have got to that point in the first place as a primary school teacher from Ballygobackwards

    Watch it there bud, I live in Ballygobackwards and I love it!


  • #303
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    I would like Irish Water as a company to be restructured
    My name is URL wrote: »
    He wouldn't have got to that point in the first place as a primary school teacher from Ballygobackwards


    Dont forget the biggest political qualification of all, your Dadda having the seat before you.

    Just think of all the genuinely smart, talented people that are bypassed in this country, cause they aren't in a "Party" or well connected.


  • #304
    Neamhshuntasach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭Neamhshuntasach


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Bit more about the protest at Coolock from the Indo today.



    Genuine protestors need to seperate themselves from these people or their message will be lost.

    That article is a blatant lie and i know that for a fact.


  • #305
    Alun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,548 ✭✭✭✭Alun


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    Local authorities have made a monumental mess of it because local politicians keep diverting scarce funds into "visible" vote winning short term projects so they can get re elected, and so the circle keeps going round.
    Indeed. A classic case of this the so-called Callow Tunnel, an ancient Victorian built 4km tunnel that forms the first part of the pipeline that takes water from the Vartry reservoirs near Roundwood to North Wicklow and South Dublin. It's basically slowly collapsing, but the repairs, which will cost between 10-20 million have been put on the long finger for over 10 years now. If it collapses that's 15% of Greater Dublin's water supply gone, not to mention most of North Wicklow's, and if that happens it's going to cause massive supply problems to a system that only has about 10% contingency built into it anyway.


  • #306
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    If Enda Kenny was the CEO for a large company, he would have been fired months ago.
    My name is URL wrote: »
    He wouldn't have got to that point in the first place as a primary school teacher from Ballygobackwards
    Satriale wrote: »
    Dont forget the biggest political qualification of all, your Dadda having the seat before you.

    Just think of all the genuinely smart, talented people that are bypassed in this country, cause they aren't in a "Party" or well connected.

    I find it very ironic that the people who do the most shouting about the current political leadership being incompetent, are the same ones campaigning for the responsibility of our water-infrastructure to remain under their remit.


  • Advertisement
  • #307
    gladrags
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭gladrags


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Neamhshuntasach wrote: »
    That article is a blatant lie and i know that for a fact.

    Pay no heed.

    The Sindo is akin to Murdoch's tabloids.

    Truth is at a premium,they propped up the housing bubble during the tiger years.

    As the markets were crashing.

    Bertie and FF could do no wrong.

    They turned a blind eye,vested interest.


  • #308
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    moxin wrote: »
    So in the most high profile issue in this country for many years, there has not been one case of assault conviction on a Garda by the anti-water charge movement. Of course we all hear about alleged violent actions of the protesters with no evidence to back it up in the courts, an injunction was served based on alleged bad behaviour, no convictions of protesters in a court of law.

    At least 800,000 households have not registered for the water charge, add more for total adults, well over a million. That's the protest movement and the Denis O'Brien owned Indo has labelled them as dissidents because he is having problems installing the water meters.

    No, you have labelled them all as dissidents. The indo has said that a small amount of dissidents have used the protests for their own means.
    Neamhshuntasach wrote: »
    That article is a blatant lie and i know that for a fact.

    Interesting, because I know for a fact that it is true. Funny that.


  • #309
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭Daith


    Barely There wrote: »
    I find it very ironic that the people who do the most shouting about the current political leadership being incompetent, are the same ones campaigning for the responsibility of our water-infrastructure to remain under their remit.

    What's the difference between local councils and IW in terms of staff? They're the same people looking after it.


  • #310
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Barely There wrote: »
    I find it very ironic that the people who do the most shouting about the current political leadership being incompetent, are the same ones campaigning for the responsibility of our water-infrastructure to remain under their remit.

    Barely There, where have I campaigned that exactly?


  • #311
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Daith wrote: »
    What's the difference between local councils and IW in terms of staff? They're the same people looking after it.


    Nothing to do with the staff.

    Everything to do with the concept of how water collection, treatment distribution, disposal, maintenance and expansion is funded.


  • Advertisement
  • #312
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    gladrags wrote: »
    Pay no heed.

    The Sindo is akin to Murdoch's tabloids.

    Truth is at a premium,they propped up the housing bubble during the tiger years.

    As the markets were crashing.

    Bertie and FF could do no wrong.

    They turned a blind eye,vested interest.

    Brendan O'Connor has an upcoming piece on "How all the smart, ballsy guys are pointing out dissidents right now"....

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/the-smart-ballsy-guys-are-buying-up-property-right-now-26307728.html


  • #313
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭Daith


    Barely There wrote: »
    Nothing to do with the staff.

    Everything to do with the concept of how water collection, treatment distribution, disposal, maintenance and expansion is funded.

    That has nothing to do with the staff in IW?


  • #314
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Barely There wrote: »
    Nothing to do with the staff.

    Everything to do with the concept of how water collection, treatment distribution, disposal, maintenance and expansion is funded.

    Nothing to do with the stafff?????
    Legions of underutilised bureaucrats transferred into an enormous secretive quango, led by a board with a revolving door to the political parties is ok?

    You are now being incompetent.


  • #315
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    My name is URL wrote: »
    He wouldn't have got to that point in the first place as a primary school teacher from Ballygobackwards

    Nothing to be proud of but as a Ballygobackwards mayo man I have had the misfortune of being close neighbours of Kenny AND P Flaynn at different times


  • #316
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Barely There wrote: »
    ... water-infrastructure to remain under their remit.

    i think you'll find we want it to stay in state hands, not any party's remit.. when we sort out the politicians, we'll still own the water.


  • #317
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    Barely There, where have I campaigned that exactly?

    What are you attending the marches for exactly?


  • #318
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Barely There wrote: »
    What are you attending the marches for exactly?

    You tell me, you said I was campaigning.


  • #319
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    i think you'll find we want it to stay in state hands, not any party's remit.. when we sort out the politicians, we'll still own the water.

    Whose behalf are you speaking on now as a matter of interest?

    How are ye planning on sorting out the politicians exactly?


  • #320
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Red Pepper wrote: »
    You tell me, you said I was campaigning.

    If you can't be bothered to answer a simple question, there's really no point in continuing.


  • #321
    Red Pepper
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Barely There wrote: »
    If you can't be bothered to answer a simple question, there's really no point in continuing.

    I accept your apology. :D


  • Advertisement
  • #322
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Barely There wrote: »
    Who' behalf are you speaking on now as a matter of interest?

    anyone that holds the opinion that irish water needs to stay out of corporate hands. i would have thought that clear from my words, no?
    How are ye planning on sorting out the politicians exactly?

    that my friend is a big debate, isnt it?

    either way, getting our water written down as owned by the irish people will be one step towards helping things change.


  • #323
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    I agree with metered water charges
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Bit more about the protest at Coolock from the Indo today.



    Genuine protestors need to seperate themselves from these people or their message will be lost.

    :pac: The Indo. fair and balanced it ain't no self interests there at all no siree Bob.


  • #324
    DamagedTrax
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Streetwalker wrote: »
    :pac: The Indo. fair and balanced it ain't no self interests there at all no siree Bob.

    lucky nobody involved with IW is involved with the indo.. otherwise we might have to take their reporting with a pinch of salt.


  • #325
    Streetwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Streetwalker


    I agree with metered water charges
    Weekend exclusive in the Indo...... Water protesters behead IW employee ISIS style and post video on YouTube.

    You know as we speak the Indo's "fair and balanced" journos are hard at it in parts of Coolock, Edenmore etc... looking for dirt on any protesters they can find. Not trying to set the agenda at all of course.


  • #326
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    I would like Irish Water as a company to be restructured
    Barely There wrote: »
    I find it very ironic that the people who do the most shouting about the current political leadership being incompetent, are the same ones campaigning for the responsibility of our water-infrastructure to remain under their remit.

    I find it ironic that the shoutiest shouter on this thread is complaining about shouting!


  • #327
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,226 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    Bit more about the protest at Coolock from the Indo today.



    Genuine protestors need to seperate themselves from these people or their message will be lost.

    How many of these known criminals have been arrested and charged for causing violence at water protests? There's more than enough Gardai present at them after all, yet I can find no details about anyone being arrested and charged.

    Bull**** scare tactics by the Indo, Gardai and TDs, attempting to muddy the waters and dissuade regular decent people from taking part in protests.


  • #328
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I would like to see IW to cease trading and water to remain controlled by government/local auth
    Streetwalker wrote: »
    :pac: The Indo. fair and balanced it ain't no self interests there at all no siree Bob.

    But the claims had been made before the Indo reported them. Even the most staunch anti water campaigner here claimed it was agent provocateurs causing the trouble from within the crowds.
    My name is URL wrote: »
    How many of these known criminals have been arrested and charged for causing violence at water protests? There's more than enough Gardai present at them after all, yet I can find no details about anyone being arrested and charged.

    Bull**** scare tactics by the Indo, Gardai and TDs, attempting to muddy the waters and dissuade regular decent people from taking part in protests.

    More than enough? The Gardaí have been massively outnumbered in every protest. In the most recent video posted form Coolock a guy can be seen giving a dig to a Garda in the back and when the Garda tried to grab him the crowd intervenes. I know you'd be happier believing the Gardaí randomly attack crowds for no reason but it doesn't happen. Either there are people in the crowds causing trouble or the crowd itself is just a mob.


  • #329
    Stargate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,680 ✭✭✭Stargate


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Can i ask a quick question?

    This injunction, if a person from the one of the households in the background in the video ( which say is 10 meters from the area ) comes out and cuts his grass, are they not breaking said injunction too and therefore should be arrested?

    Just asking?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJkqIj-emc0


  • #330
    Daith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭Daith


    Stargate wrote: »
    Can i ask a quick question?

    This injunction, if a person from the one of the households in the background in the video ( which say is 10 meters from the area ) comes out and cuts his grass, are they not breaking said injunction too and therefore should be arrested?

    Just asking?

    Fairly sure the injunction excludes actual residents of the area?


  • Advertisement
  • #331
    moxin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭moxin


    I do not want to pay for water in any way
    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    More than enough? The Gardaí have been massively outnumbered in every protest. In the most recent video posted form Coolock a guy can be seen giving a dig to a Garda in the back and when the Garda tried to grab him the crowd intervenes. I know you'd be happier believing the Gardaí randomly attack crowds for no reason but it doesn't happen. Either there are people in the crowds causing trouble or the crowd itself is just a mob.

    And yes, please point out the convictions for said assaults?

    The Gardai attacked a pensioner at Santry, you saw the video. They provoked the crowd which grew exponentially at Coolock hence this slur today from Denis O'Brien owned Indo and GMC Sierra.


This discussion has been closed.
Advertisement