Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Tomás McCarthy @tomasmcc · 1m 1 minute ago
@Munsterpps Full Time Midleton CBS 0-11 High School Clonmel 0-10 Gary Leahy with last gasp winner

Dr. Harty Cup result : PS na Tr. Youghal 0:15 v St. Caimin's 0:13, 2 wins from 2 for the Youghal Boys,#goingwell,@Munsterpps.

Dwayne lee got the two goals. De Mon well on top all through game. Don't have names. But center back and two corner forwards very good.

Orizio wrote: »

Merkushev and Ogbebor are Killeagh. So is Cantillion iirc.

Yes i do know that.
Killeagh st itas is their club at minor ,i said itas simply that as actually at match,hands so cold wanted make it as short as i could
And that report wasnt for just you other knowelagble posters knew well exactly.what i meant in st itas.

Jack o rourke.,bobby mccarthy,deane same club etc
I dont with all due respect need you.telling me what i need to know when i know too well where they from and practially all i need to know bout them hurling wise.
Youre great to sit back and identify mistakes of others,well done. Thanks

Rebel norrie thanks a lot,much appreciated.,dayne lee is unreal and the other forwards eetr probaly dan gunning and evan sheehan.

http://munster.gaa.ie/2014/10/14/dr-harty-cup-our-ladys-templemore-1-20-charleville-cbs-2-14/

http://munster.gaa.ie/2014/10/10/dr-harty-cup-castletroy-college-v-de-la-salle-waterford/

Breadandbutter wrote: »

TTM I'm copying your HARTY report into HARTY thread - presume that's ok !

No bother work away any time lad

This is from the score.ie

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That’s the headline in Bild
 as they bemoan a second successive qualification game where Germany failed to claim victory.
“Clearly, something more creative would have done well against Ireland. What disturbs rather, are the many lapses of concentration, bad passes and arrogance. A world champion should never act negligently or arrogant.”

]

My view


This is the german media reaction after last night.
I think it is very relative to here,this thread imo as it shows the perception of attuide on acceptance of standards and perception of focus compared to cork gaa at times.

Here you have the world champions just weeks in,just two bad results but proven players and manager missing key players,but as boateng their player also said they have no excues,shows why germany will bounce back be force in the euros,simply as the media demand more and world champions doesnt give them immunity,they wont accept sloppy passing or their Key word is arrogrance in any game they play.

In their eyes a world champion should never act negilenty or arrorgantly.Made the hair stand on my head.
Like cody in kilkenny,all blacks in rubgy,kerry in football they demand a mininim standard all the time ,whether youre winning or loosing.
Now what some may think is germany overreacting,its not,its ruthless truth and honesty in all corners such that germany wont drop of in their standards.


Cork get hammered,worst home defeat in twenty years over yet no uproar,no inquest more of it was just a bad day,a freak results.in year one,give cork time.
Germany like cork hurling suffered greatly in 2006 around but revamped the underage,radically changed its coaching set up,now world champions.
Germany look within,and theres a boiling point,enough is enough,but cork at u 21 hurling,senior football never accept when we hit rock g bottom.

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/martin-oneill-cavalier-germany-attack-ireland-1725161-Oct2014/
Anybody clinging to ah cork footballers ran mayo to a point would want to rethink imo moral victories are usless
Just see o.neills view on moral victory, it was a brillant view.
And they had more of a right than cork in moral victory proclammtion,imo as germany were world champions
Cork football taking on the second team in ireland with only one forward have no right imo to claim a moral victory in the one point loss to mayo.
Were becoming like england in football,we glorify results against second rate team,over hype a manager,like england and roy hodgdon who talks the perfect game,most english media adore him,yet like cork football against top top teams hes exposed time and again,and ex pundidts on itv for example glenn hoddle,ian wright calling him gaffer,treat him like a god when their job is to anayalse a game but imo they fail to ruthlessy anaylise hes weakness
Cork football must aim to be the Germany of soccer ,like kilkenny,not the england template,accept mediocrity despite huge rescources availble.
Attuides in cork gaa must change for cork gaa to evolve imo.

Rebel norrie wrote: »

Dwayne lee got the two goals. De Mon well on top all through game. Don't have names. But center back and two corner forwards very good.

D o connail na piarsaigh
E o chonaing,c o suilleabhain,r o meadhra all na piarsaigh
A o donobhain glen
Ro muireasa,glen
E o laoighre glen
L o cochlainn glen
C o hainifein na piarsaigh
P de faoite glen
D o breachtain glen
D o chonaing na piarsaigh
D o laoi na piarsaigh
E o siochain na piarsaigh

Id presume ag lined out similar to team here that lined out in the ist game

Key players are o darren connell gk played senior na piarsaigh when brady was abroad,eddie gunning fine job senior q final replacing injured darren mannix,evan sheehan u 16 supberb forward,dan gunning eddies brother,of,course dayne lee this year corkminor splendid goal v limerick this year,played senior with na piarsaigh in championship,liam coughlan of the glen and chris hanafin na piarsaigh
I think liam shorten ex cork footballer, current muskerry footballer,fine coach,is their fitness trainer with them still.

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/hurling-managers-2015-ins-and-outs-1709391-Oct2014/

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/gaelic-football-managers-2015-1709341-Oct2014/

Clare twice in succession have with kissane last year the brillant,magnificent,tactical mastermind in ephie fitzgerald better senior coaches than cork.
Tipp have a better coach in peter creedon,two counties with two good cork men.
Creedon coached cahir to their first south title til 1950,coached cashel minor schools title etc.

Bar waterford,kerry,tipp,clare with sean collins,successful with cratloe,also,limerick with john brudair who had,success with drom with ned english in 2008,2009,and got st patricks to a senior county final ,all imo have proven successful coaches compared to Cork.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/leahy-strikes-late-for-midleton-291542.html

I said it tuesdsay john looney would light up the harty cup,ist game four from play,cert for cork.minors,i also said manely be availble to them,he got a point as s sub,vital in the end.A strong midelton team,missing a few can and will get much stronger after this their ist game out,blowing out their cowbebs.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/tasty-gaelcholaacuteiste-mhuire-serve-notice-291546.html
The ag team i posted i was right,its similar to the ist game practially the same.
Gunning and lee got rave reviews i,said it many times,gunning will be next full back at club and county in two years.
A very Special player talent wise.
That was a fine report by denis hurley he done a splendid piece on ag the day before also.Harty cup coverage,Denis does and has done the last few years been splendid imo,well worth reading for any hurling fan.

Paddy ryan also does a lot of games
I have huge respect for anyone involved in the harty cup ,playing,coaching,media,fans etc.Its the bread and butter of young hurling imo.I love,cherish harty cup games,small crowds,yes but everyone their is not a bluffer or spoofer,they know their gaa,inside out,their there they simply want to be there,no prawn sandwich brigade more the flask of tea ham sambo liam griffin type of fan I admire truly and no matter what teams they support,all have a common interest,love,real real love for hurling.Great to see aron cunningham clare u 21 hurler their supporting hes brother.Top players are both.
I met a fella yesterday that travelled all the way from galway just to watch shanagher play.That galway man has my respect.Lot of cork people their in the crowd.

A real sign of autumn is the harty cup as the autumn leaves blow on the crisp cold sharp mornings where the hurling is a joy to behold.I thought Daltons Field of Gold is Charville.Breathtaking,mouth watering masterclass it was.
Well done Deccie.


Declan daltons free taking was an ehibition in masterclass long distance free taking.Low ,but hit like a bullet it,cruised over,like a concorde in flight bar the odd mishap,always reached its destination.Wonder flight trajectory in mid,air of the sliothar.11 frees,got 8 just two wides,one on target but dropped short,taken 65m out.

Great article Horse,you see the Dipalomtic process in Dublin would cause a,sevre allergic reaction to the cork, it would be alien to cork,they want total control.
Dublin,fair play rushe for saying it.
You see again always outside men in cork,eammon sweeney,liam griffin 2008 etc that critocise cork county board,no other cork pundit will do it regulary,No one still consitently questioned cuthbherts term over cleary.

Of course the one man that does question cork gaa is,cusack is seen as a trouble maker,having a rant,all the negatovity,and of course the great one, whats your agenda.I get that line here myself when I criticise things,stick to it,normally cause same mistake repeats itself.I wouldnt be saying it otherwise,but if your juding something you cant ignore a weakness if its exists.
People in cork must ,some,stand up and realise ,they know it too well ,but want the easy life,wont go again the grain and have demorcatic voice and demand better.
One  delegate in cork from a big club,believes ger blue had a job in cork,he left,not that cork lost him.It is like ger had no reason to leave
He would want to review hes thoughts imo.Ger blue had limerick.job in hes pocket,knew hed never get the cork one,they could have given him the u 21 job,i believe he wanted it, then coulf be told if jbm goes senior is yours.He had to take limerick .
Of course limerick blew it,wheel always turns a full circle,in
Dublin have a three year vision now,limerick dont,how can they look whos incharge.Ger wanted to be senior manager for last 8 years,he had to go.He cant be expected be to,second in command all hes life.

A clare poster told us last week here,kinnerk was for clare all hes people were to a point,and thats why he joined them.
Talk is kinnerk will do some coaching in limerick football at some grade now,ironic he wont do a thing with their hurling teams.
See imo in limerick football cause they see it as the poor relations,no egos exist,in hurling too many want a piece of the cake,and only a few deserve it.Imo it was a huge huge reflection on limerick hurling kinnerk choose clare.
Theres speculation one current,star underage limerick hurler has signed for aston villa.If thats true I wish him the best.If I was advising him,id say grab it with both hands,in this case.
Choosing soccer ,is a risk to all counties gaa lads,but imo when you have teams that dont have chance winning glory you will likely have less reason to stay.
The top elite athletes deserve to win glory.

Mountainlad wrote: »

Sounds like Youghal have recruited a few from their catchment area in Moscow!!!

Eddie.hallorhan clssmore fine.player
Whats the minor manager watrrford like
Who will join.mcgrath at senior,is their trouble their?

Orizio wrote: »

Yeah Merkushov and Ogbebor are good young hurlers for Killeagh, think they both have at least one if not two more years at Harty, so I'm sure they'll be starting next year.

killeagh st itas

Slobbery wrote: »

Ya it doesnt sound good a mass exodus, serious reality check for us this morning, if he kept the two selectors in itself but to lose them is makes it worse.

I was really encouraged to hear that our young players would be in a set-up with two guys who had recent success and experience with minor inter county and the fitzgibbon scene, guys use to dealing with players of their age group etc.

I would love to know why they left - is it because they went in and discovered it was a mickey mouse set-up?
Or that the players weren't of a sufficient standard/ability?

Bad times!

Id heard about Shane and pender hanging up their boots almost 2 weeks ago but there's possibly 5 or 6 more to follow suit if what I heard is true. I'm not naming names now as it wouldn't be fair. Mcgrath isn't popular there. It's not nice to see as there is talent in Waterford without a doubt.