Cork GAA Discussion Thread

sean mac wrote: »

That article by Christy o connor is appalling for how badly wrong he got his assessment. Its actually crongeworthy how poor that is from a writer who I feel is right most of the time. After reading that and seeing what Cuthbert did this year and how we are ****ed already for 2015 I would have to give Christy a sceptical reading from now on.
Unfortunately in both cork senior panels we are badly missing leaders - for the hurlers on field leaders to do something like make a change themselves or break momentum when things are going badly like the tipp game, off field leaders in the football panel who will put ut up to a seriously out of his depth manager and tell him what is required and if he says no then walk away. Too many fellas on both panels happy enough to go with the flow, desperately disappointing and depressing for 2015. TAaking it that the dual players will be hurling only and that pat mulcahy will come into the hurling set up and stand with JBM on the line I have hope for the hurlers as for the footballers genuinely feel relegation, a hiding in Killarney and a loss in a quarter final is the season to come

You were right saying sars would beat glen
How do you rate willam kearney

Sean i cant call sunday,i like both teams,probaly go for ballincollig over kielys,miskella deserves a senior county medal,kelly to prove a point
Who do you think will win??

Heres some real fact and realisim.
What to jesus do you think newtownshandrum were??do you realise the,size of the parish,surrounded by charville,dromina,milford,kilmallock to a point  if they wanted to go their,you do know won four counties senior,intermediate,all ireland senior,club title,two munsters plus another all ireland final.You could walk through there in two minute aprox ,its so small.Dont bulls##t me with nonense please.
Meelin close by win all ireland junior title,yes an all ireland,ffs ye cant even win a county title.

Ok TTM, I apologise my club hasn't been as successful as Newtown have. No doubt you also think Kilbrin, Cloughduv and every club with a bigger pick than Newtown should be ashamed of themselves? Or is it just Castlemartyr?

Ballymartle small club had success,now Senior,yes Senior and always competitng.
There great clubs,yere way of them success wise.Again i acknowleded castlelmatry were once great but now arent doing what they should be doing.

All those have just the same problems as castlematyr,Dont talk nonense with respect please

Bally have a much bigger pick than us, and have a number of lads from surrounding areas playing for them (from Kinsale, Ballyhooley etc). Saying we are comparable to Ballymartle is complete ignorance.

Casrlematyr imo on paper in hurling should be beating cloghduv
In faireness winning a mid cork is tougher than east cork ,as proven  more mid cork teams winning the last twenty years ,in dripsey,cloughduv ,blarney etc,so winning county mid cork is harder on cloughduv and imo doing great down their.When did ye last get to a final a long,long,long,very long time ago,not an opinion but a fact.East cork ,is poor enough in junior at times,making ye look better what ye are.

So why in God's name should we be beating Cloughduv if East Cork is a lot weaker than Mid Cork? Why are you contradicting yourself?

Look you clearly have no idea how weak our pick is. Moreover you have zero respect for the effort and work being done in the club, zero respect for us getting so much out of so little and zero respect for us having so many players represented at inter-county level recently despite our disadvantages compared to other clubs in the area.

Moreover you belittle what achievements we have made (East Cork division is poor, easy to win, you don't win finals etc). You speak with an animosity and aggression towards Castlemartyr GAA that you do not use towards any other GAA team on this forum, you compare us - and only us - to Newtown unfavourably, as if Newtown's achievements don't embarrass every other club in the county. You say we have a similar size to Ballymartle, which tells me straight away your what little knowledge of Castlemartyr GAA club you have is misinformed.

You have a bizarre dislike for the club and feel the need to insult it and belittle every chance you get. I'm sick of defending my club from your snide remarks and ignorance. This will be the last time I'll bother entertaining your prejudice on this subject.

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Best of luck to Kanturk and Midelton today and the Haven.


Much better for Cork hurling if kanturk and midelton win,in terms cork hurling.


Castlewatmtr 9 to 7 against kilbrin h time.


Id be sh** going against kilbrin ,closer to home,but i hope castlematyr win as better chance in munster than grenagh or kilbrin.The more i c kilbrin,their a one man team,with Egan.They wouldnt go far in munster.


Two lawtons are worth a look for cork ,if they had gd run.


Munster junior final mallow n 8 decemeber so cork team have that advantage if beat beat waterford and tipp champs.

3rd november 2013

This is my last post on the subject
For a poster that i meant be to.be preduice to castlematyr,this.post of mine rubbishes that i went against kilbrin,closer team as i wanted best for cork hurling.Lets be crystal clear,i dont do prejudice.Thanks

i said then lawtowns deserved a run for cork. Hardly prejuicded.
But you see lawton got hes chance and didnt take it,that simple in the league etc.Doesnt like others like haughney,cian mac imo deserve to be there next year.
They lost game to kilbrin were in control of.
This year i remain unconvinced on their form,and after last year,not prejudice but my realistic view as imo they flatter to decieve at times.
Ive clearly rubbished that myth here.I dont do club bias unlike you in my views ,i do whats best for cork hurling in general.
Now have the last word, if you wish but i want to get back to talking real gaa.Good lad.

darragh_haven wrote: »

I might throw my view that Carbery rangers will win. Purely on the view that they have about 6 or 7 players on the field that will chip in with scores while not relying on a single player to create those scores either.
I actually was impressed with the different tactics usedyby their coach on the 3 different occasions I have seen them play.he seems to be able to adapt the team to the opposition threat while still getting their own scores. There is a slight look of donegal about them. Organised defence and break at speed..... and have the players to do it effectively.
To be fair, ive only seen ballincollig once this year and that was in the semi final against nemo, but I thought that nemo looked letargic.

Neck on the block. Carbery rangers leading at half time by 1..... and win out by 4 or 5

What do you make of fitzpatrick and shanahan cork wise
Tough game to call

http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/kerry-legend-toms-s-to-join-cork-side-nemo-rangers-30662595.html



That is obivously with a view to management down the line ,sure be given u 21 job in future and with success at ucc,senior in time


Great move for all
A man i have the.utmost respect for,a winner,real dog within,wonderful talents on field,blessed with awesome intelligence of play,definetly one year club football left in him


Not a great reflection he didnt join on one other big cork club imo for example,o se is shrewd,he joined a real club where football than poltics always comes first.

darragh_haven wrote: »

Heard in the Club that he wont commit to cork, Farm and kids, and distance from cork are all factors. But i did not hear it directly from Sean himself.

He has a young family

Id say with the carry on in this years set up it infulenced him

The current set up going no where fast

Goalmouth
My cork minor hurling panel roughily up to now

Goal keepers
S fitgerald na piarsaigh
Cian collins charville intermediate keeper
Colin Looney sarsfields
Decalan dalton but he should be out field,some man catch a ball at times not the calmest for a goalie

corner backs
Tim murphy sarsfields
W hurley valley rovers , hamilton
Seadna smith midelton can play centre back,another year at harty and i think minor.Christ above,some hurler.Could be the next brian murphy.
c hegarty fr o neills
E o keoffe na piarsaigh
Cathal martin kitltha og
Mike mellrick fr o niells
Dean linehan bride rovers second year in harty plays them as forward,cork see him as corner back
I do too,wont get ahead other forwards imo
Full backs

Ian cahill cloyne
Sean o connor fr o neills
Darragh o.brien killeagh
David griifin outstanding at full for rochestown v charville,their captain played u 21 the weekend
Won minor county football with carriglaine
He will be dual
Jack meade charville dean ryan cup two years left at harty

Half backs
Donal english sars
Kelleher neweston ,playing harty with hamiliton and again next year,outstanding v nenagh I heard
Chris o leary valley
Shane walsh bride rovers senior expierence
Conor cahalane dual st finbarrs outstanding player,has the bite of a cahalane in hurling,in Breeding comes out through the eye of a cat

Daniel harrington fr o neills
Eoin o brien douglas
John cashman blackrock
David lowney clonkaiktly dual better footballer imo
Ryan dennehy kiltha og
Niall o leary castlelyons outstanding harty cup for colmans,two more years at harty and at least one at minor
Darragh guiney,captain of charville dean ryan,harty cup sub will likely play them at corner back or midfield,pace and hurling to burn,two years left at harty
Niall barry murphy aghallabouge
Shane garvey sarsfields two years left at minor
Cathal deane killeagh st itas,playing harty with youghal two years at harty ,minor left

Midfield
Butty mccarthy if availble carrigtwoill captain dean ryan winning team last year ,awesome player
Billy Hennessey st finbarrs played well old christians v drom in munster b in mallow two weeks ago.

mcdonnell aghada

Jeremy saich kilworth u16 this year playing harty colmans
Harty,cork minor next two years,the real deal
Dancing back round,saich has lovely balance of feet ,both telphatic,telementric fludity systematic cohesion of movement ive ever seen in a young hurler,hurl both sides,real real talent,missed by development squads before late developer,hes unreal if hes contuines progressing.
Some pace.Strong as an ox.
O brien blackrock
Kevin flynm kilshannig
Kevin moyinhan russell rovers
Is luke meade newestown underage??if so automatic starter
Liam couglan glen rovers
Darragh fitzgibbon charville,playing corner forward for the school
Mark coleman blarney,midfield or half forward,outstanding at u 21 all year,ace free taker,super hands,super touch.Very fast.
Jontahan mulchay bandon,hamilton if eligble

Half forwards
Declan dalton fr o.neills 1—14 for youghal v templemore.
From placed our unplaced balls,anywhere within sixty yards can score.Part last year set up for a while with cork,played half forward v ard scoil challenge in mallow,destoyed three different men in the air in pouring rain,hand like a vice grip,not afraid to win dirty ball.

john looney aghada,played awesome all year in last year dean ryan cup,outstanding for aghada in intermediate,fine footballer also,played u 17 all ireland final in mallow ,hes dual with john cashman was epiceally awesome to watch.
A sub ,got superb point v limerick im the galeic grounds,this lad is majestic,will light up the harty cup .

Robbie flynn eirins own v good in u 17 semi v limerick

Tim.o.mahony ,newtownshandrum
Could play centre back won kinnane cup charville cbs there,centre forward or full forward
Played senior championship v ucc,sub v ns piarsaigh,caused great full back darren mannix all sort of problems.
Outstanding v duhallow both u 21 games, twogoal ist day,two last week again ,one one v carriglaine saturday,real pace,great in the air.
Shane kingston,could play anywhere,pace,strength,hurling,two four the last harty cup match
Jack barry charville,playing harty ,and u 21 ,intermediate final sunday for charville
Has improved by having good coaches at school and club in butler ,finn,will improve again under ring,landers.

Craig hannaffin na piarsaigh.u 16 playing harty for na piarsigh

Full forwards
Dan landers killeagh part of squad for a bit last year
Michael o halloran blackrock outstanding for old christians v drom b match i saw before rochestown ,he was Unmarkable

Benny dunne fr o neills,
Sean howard,dromtariffe
Killan tracey killeagh,josh beausang russell rovers,both harty cup this year plus next year
colm dinneen newestown if underage
dan gunning napiarsaigh two years left at minor and harty playing harty this year
Evan sheehan u 16 na piarsigh played harty cup ,goal two ist game,superb talent,played minor for club,two years left at minor,three at harty i think,triston o leary sarsfields,and killan aherne na piarsaigh are similär and id have in the training panel

Luke hackett sarsfields
Garan manley yes with cork city bit still avaible im told for cork

I could have left out a few,by all means add to it please,goalmouth.
Im unsure bout this new u 16 rule but i added few u 17 and u 16 now as like limerick in peter casey, paddy o loughlin,conor fitzgerald,conor houlohan,grimes,they blood young players building for next year to always have expierence in the panel
That would roughly be my panel,but keep in mind,form,injuries harty cup ,could and will likely change but if i was involved wuth them id monitor every lad i named,as imo you could make,strong cases for all to be on the preminarly panel before its cut to 34 or so in feburary.
A lot of these lads are verastile and
And quite interchangable imo in different positions.
The talent is there ,finding the perfect balance is key imo but i trust and believe in ring and landers,they won my trust and belief based on their track records.

darragh_haven wrote: »

Heard in the Club that he wont commit to cork, Farm and kids, and distance from cork are all factors. But i did not hear it directly from Sean himself.

Wouldn't blame the man one bit after the way he was treated in tullamore for the Sligo game and then being inexpicably dropped for the next game vs mayo. Pity a good manager could have made good use of dineen at this level.

Now if i was to pick the minor team now .It would be capable beating anyone in munster,including limerick.

Cian Collins
Dean linehan
Ian cahill they may play him as a forward where cloyne have i woud not ,Griffin just as good
Seadna smith
Donal english chris o leary shane walsh thats a hard line to pick

Defenders very hard to pick


Griffin,mellrrick,harrington,cashman.,id all be happy with
John cashman or chris o leary very very very hard call,toss a coin terriorty,chris just over expierence with hamilton last year

Midfield
Butty mccarthy defo, saich or coleman or coughlan

Half,forwards
dan landers,tim o mahony,kingston
Full forward line Dunne halloran looney

That team has power,pace,hurling,athlteicsim,hurling craft and intelligence with tough characters,take some team to beat them
Lots of other good hurlers could come in and,do a job

sean mac wrote: »

Btw I find it amazing that our media hungry manager hasn't announced officially that pat Flanagan is joining the set up, it begs the question is he? whats the issue in the background?

Frank called him into the office and handed him a note with "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" and told that all media requests had to be approved by Frank from now on or he's not getting a 2nd term. :pac:

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Apparently turned down an enticing offer from another big club,imo done right thing,hes a winner why change habits of a life time.Why choose silver when you can choose gold.
Winners will always choose winners

Groomed for management,nemo dont do poltics and wont bow to anyone,them and o se are a match made in heaven.
Douglas got tony leen this year.a kerry man with no record,their neighbours nemo likely to have tomas down line in management.Some contrast.

Can't help but be reminded of a response I heard from a Clare woman who was getting a slagging about Davy Fitz being in charge of Waterford and Anthony Daly in charge of the Dublin hurlers.

"Shure it's basically missionary work they're at - showing them folk how to play"