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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Ah now he admitted cork were well beaten, honest brave honest enough to do it ,no ego has truth and honesty to do it .
And yes we were spanked absoultely,said it myself after the game,many times since.
My abiding memory is tj telling anyone willing to listen , moral victorys ah limerick were unfortunate,we didnt get the breaks,we were unlucky,ollie moran then saying sport is cruel we were the better team we lost.The better team won,end off.
Kikenny too gracious to say it,but were laughing at Limerick ,puffed and blew like dragon but then folded like a butterfly when they could have won the game.
Well done limerick,wonderful stuff.
They had best minor some of the management,pissed away a title getting too big for their boots
They blame everything bar whats real.
I geuinly dont want to bust limericks bubble but imo No outside coach worth hes salt will touch limerick hurling for money even, after the treating of ger blue and o grady,so when tj goes it will be out of the frying pan in to the fire for limerick hurling brian ryan,tom ryan,leo o connor up for the job next as no one else will want it you coudnt make it up.Ger cunningham ul and shane fitzgibbon were involved before and they saw the shambles it is,two good coaches hardly go back again imo.
Kiely is good at u 21 but tom ryan will try and pull the strings their.
Their will be drama yet imo their.
For a man great to tell the gaa world how to do things,he talked some rubbish after u 21 were in your words Spanked and hes intermediate team lost a game ye could of won.Has tom ever won an ireland as manager at any level.NO
I want cork to draw limerick in the draw tonight,in hurling .
Calling a man that won minor title,beat beat kilkenny in a final,hammerred them in fact,won senior all ireland with a young team ,got a team with unlimited rescources ,a Dummy, hardly logical with all due respect.
Feel free to debate any points i raised,spefically the most sickening of all imo to limerick gaa,yere own man playing in club with limerick,set hes allegiance to clare,home of hes parents yes but he regards himself a clare man.Some kick in the stones for limerick hurling in fairness when kinnerk opted for clare.
At least any of other managers that left cork would take the senior job if offered,they wont be.thats only why they left ,but its a huge difference from being offered a job,turning it down that not being offered it at all
Solwhit,I said it many times jbm tactically was at times not great,i agree with you,not that he cant do it,just stubborn to old freestyle hurling and against the possessipn game.Tj just cant do tactics,hasnt the foresight as a manager to do it as hes too old school limerick hurling style.The game has moved on.
Theres a difference,cork hurling has hope next year,limerick,is a lost cause at senior hurling for a few years.
Win a munster,have celeberations from thomond to ahane to doon,to kilmallock to parade the cup,sing sean south of garryowen,limerick media do a fifty six page pull put,double what they had for the minors,while the Real teams concentrate on winning an ireland is probaly what Limerick will do,its what they do best and only they can do it,in build up a team of huge expecation,then yet another false dawn blows the wind beneath their sails imo.Thats not being rude,just look at past times.
You see corks hammering will actually open jbm eyes to the flaws we have like in 1996,limericks moral victory will cover up the cracks in limerick ,and they will belive they are better than they actually are imo and wont change much next year,likely to be the same starting team or close to it
Imo.
With cahalane hurling Corks problem at full back will be solved and im hearing a big shake up of management.
Who did tj bring in??davy clarke .
Wonderful player,coach what has he done though??
.Yes tj won a title with kilworth but even pat kenneally won county with valley in both,look at us now at u 21.
Everything i said of limerick last year would happen happened.Check my posts you dont believe me.
He brought back in niall moran , in dundrum in a summers night v waterford in a challenge he looked good.
Niall moran would make a great coach but hes finished in playing.
Thats shrewd management alright.
Mike fitzgerald,dropped by o grady previously brought back.He was good in 2007 but now imo way of intercounty level.
You complain bout me being harsh on a guy that won NOTHING IN INTERCOUNTY OR WONT,well.maybee munster title only as real teams dont give a toss bout it next year,yet you said nothing when a proven manager like jbm is called a Dummy.
For whatever jbm faults,Facts are he won two all irelands,got to an all ireland final ,only man to have 100 per cent record v cody in championship.Limerick further down the road of development than cork last few years,but now cork have caught up at senior.
Anyway ,lets get back to talking bout something worth talking bout ,cork gaa.
Jbm or tj if i had a choice,,jbm any and every day of the week ,any logical gaa man would choose jbm.No other top county imo wanting to win an all ireland would have tj ryan as manager imo purely on hes record.Top teams dont accept mediocrity.If i was picking a full back in limerick,id have tj every time,and as a player, i was a huge fan of the way he played.Managing and playing are though two very very different skillsets.
It will be interesting the excuses next year when limerick fail to get promoted,then become poor in the championship.
Last year some limerick fans had poor excuses,twas comical , blaming body fat levels, the day was too wet v kilkenny,we had no luck , ifs and buts and maybees you couldnt make it up if you tried.
Limericks main problem is the refusal to change its way or style of play,wont embrace innovation.T
The Draw is tonight, my hope is avoid all teams bar limerick for cork.Corks softest touch imo,even in limerick cork will beat limerick.
Limerick have superb young talent,lynch,english,coleman,nash but like cork footballers talent is wasted if you dont have competent,astute modern day management to compliment it when Tactics are now paramount to the Game of Hurling,at nearly all levels now.Straight Talker wrote: »TJ Ryan was an honest and committed player for Limerick but no more than that.JBM has all Ireland wins in hurling and football as a player on his CV and he has made a telling impact with Cork minor hurling teams winning a minor all Ireland as Cork manager.He has a senior all Ireland win as Cork manager on his CV and he was 30 seconds away from landing another one.TJ Ryan on the other hand had a disastrous spell as Limerick u21 manager and the highlight of his senior managerial career so far is a gallant defeat to an under par Kilkenny team who to be honest with you always felt and knew that they had yere measure.So to be honest with you i'd take JBMS record as a player and manager over TJ Ryans anyday.
I'm far from convinced about TJ myself. Likewise with JBM. Handy draw for Cork though, so he may get to the Munster final.
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I'm far from convinced about TJ myself. Likewise with JBM. Handy draw for Cork though, so he may get to the Munster final.
Well you must be deligjted with yere draw.You must be totally confident.
Im sure davy is lying awake now at night over this draw now.
Clare will match yere gutso,fury ,passion ball for ball but will play with an intelligence,game plan,thats alien to limerick hurling and blow limerick away
I think this huring draw will entice dual lads go hurling,as cork wont beat kerry in killarney in the football imo
Cork hurlers peak for waterford,relax for the munster final,have a few mars bars,ice creams,then ramp it up after the munster final
But of course play ,the public relations game,we want a munster title,we will go through hell and fury to win it etc.
Play the game.
Paudi ,rightwing came to the cork thread called jbm a dummy,if you havent got the courtsey or loyalty to defend a legend in cork,thats fine for you,dont preach to me with respect please what to do or dont.Good man.
I like limerick,again i say,that ,but emotion doesnt hinder me calling a spade a spade in limerick hurling.
Even limericks loyal fans,did not want niall moran back,never perfomed constantly in the big games.
How could breen start this year for ucc when he was injured??can you explain that one to me.
Shane o donnell wasnt starting this year all the time despite being fit,such was the pick.O donnell is the man that got a hat trick in the 2013 all ireland final replay.
you do know,ucc have a pick of players of intercounty standard from different counties,limerick dont and dont have an abdundace top quailty forwards so breen is best avaible forward to limerick.0 -
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