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Love/Hate (v2) [** Spoilers **]

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  • #1562
    [Deleted User]
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    emanresu esrever wrote: »
    Im not saying he wouldnt be well known. But as i said "hearsay" is irrelevant in a court of law. May effect judges leniency if he is aware of the character but a witness cant stand up and say "we think he done this and that" in court


    Yeah but were not talking about a court of law. You coudl be well known to guards without ever receiving a conviction. Obviously given that the guy is clearly unhinged and the Gardai know this we can assume that Fran has had form in the past.


  • #1563
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,742 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    BuilderPlumber wrote: »
    This will still feature I am sure. But I think the aim will be to keep both alive.

    Even if we all know that there is pressure on both actors - as this has been a massive improvement in both their acting lives.

    If there is another year next year (Should be last next year imo) - it is hard to imagine Fran and Nidge - not in last series.

    Perhaps Fran in jail - is a useful holding time to get fran to last series ?

    but just guess and enjoying speculation here.

    I'll be honest - I wasn't ready for this Paulie story at all.


  • #1564
    mzungu
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Great episode tonight, tour de force from Peter Coonan.

    Fran being in jail must mean we see Noelie again. This made me wonder about the final scene of the last series with Nidge in the cell. Maybe Fran gets out on bail and for his own protection Nidge goes into prison. Although id expect such questions to be answers at the business end of this season.

    Loving this so far.


  • #1565
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    walshb wrote: »
    We seriously meant to believe that Fran and the travellers didn't notice the white van? It was all over the scenes, yet Fran, this criminal, saw nothing. It was so obvious that he'd get nabbed before he went to kill Nidge.


    Frans mental state was in turmoil after Paddy told him about the Nidge Linda link, I'd say you could have driven a double decker bus full of ERU officers along side him at that point and in his rage of disbelief he wouldn't have noticed.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1566
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    walshb wrote: »
    We seriously meant to believe that Fran and the travellers didn't notice the white van? It was all over the scenes, yet Fran, this criminal, saw nothing. It was so obvious that he'd get nabbed before he went to kill Nidge.


    Must admit i didnt think Kieran was too inconcpicous myself.


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  • #1567
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    implausible wrote: »
    Trish is depressed, that's going to go somewhere and Paulie/Siobhan is going to end in something dramatic - maybe Tommy dies and she convinces him to off Nidge for her?


    Paulie did twig in tonight's episode that Siobhan doesn't like Nidge didn't he.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1568
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Blay wrote: »
    Well my source is the Dept. of Justice website so we'll go with that :pac:

    If they can pin him for intent to endanger life it would be 10 minimum, I wouldn't say they'd have trouble convincing anyone of Fran's form on that score.
    It's 5 years and the judge can suspend it or part of it. Purely going on this
    nc6000 wrote: »
    Why didn't the motorbike fall over during the hijack when the guy had to get off it?

    I said the same thing when it happened! Obviously they wanted to add to the drama and thought no one would notice.


  • #1569
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,742 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    As a side - a bit of a joke this country - a lad only getting 2 1/2 years for an illegal firearm

    Give them 10.


  • #1570
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,291 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Cienciano wrote: »
    It's 5 years and the judge can suspend it or part of it. Purely going on this

    It's 10 for possession with intent to endanger life.


  • #1571
    batistuta9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,508 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Blay wrote: »
    It's 10 for possession with intent to endanger life.

    what else would a gun do??? :pac::pac::pac:


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  • #1572
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,291 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    what else would a gun do??? :pac::pac::pac:

    This is the breakdown;
    Possession of firearms with intent to endanger life - maximum sentence of life imprisonment and a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years imprisonment;
    Prohibition of use of firearms to resist arrest or aid escape - maximum sentence of life imprisonment and a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years imprisonment;
    Possession of firearm while hijacking a vehicle - maximum sentence of 14 years imprisonment and a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years imprisonment;
    Possession of firearm or ammunition in suspicious circumstances - maximum sentence of 14 years imprisonment and a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years imprisonment;
    Carrying firearm with criminal intent - maximum sentence of 14 years imprisonment and a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years imprisonment; and
    Altering a Firearm - maximum sentence of 10 years imprisonment and a mandatory minimum sentence of 5 years imprisonment.

    Justice.ie


  • #1573
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Deleted User wrote: »
    He doesnt trust Paulie. But I think Micha the bodyguard might bear a grudge too after the way he was just left to be butchered as Nidge ran off.

    Speaking of bodyguards, where was Nidge's new guy tonight? Can he not do overtime due to budget cuts also?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1574
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Blay wrote: »
    It's 10 for possession with intent to endanger life.

    Would be difficult to prove that bit.

    Funny, the entire set up by the gardai was to get nidge. When he was about to be got, they go above and beyond the call of duty to save him :pac:
    (I know, they didn't know it at the time)


  • #1575
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    nc6000 wrote: »
    Why didn't the motorbike fall over during the hijack when the guy had to get off it?

    He's a rookie and was using stabilizers :D

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1576
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    gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Speaking of bodyguards, where was Nidge's new guy tonight? Can he not do overtime due to budget cuts also?


    I suppose Nidge didnt call on him since Lizzie is dead and he thought that Paulie would have killed Patrick


  • #1577
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,291 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    gadgetman496 wrote: »
    He's a rookie and was using stabilizers :D

    Poor young lad still has a learner permit :pac:


  • #1578
    Witcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,291 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Speaking of bodyguards, where was Nidge's new guy tonight? Can he not do overtime due to budget cuts also?

    He was driving Nidge and Paulie in the Beemer wasn't he? Then he dropped them at the garage and Aido picked them up out the back?


  • #1579
    lufties
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭lufties


    Fran's character as much as I enjoy him, seems to be a rip off heath ledger's joker in the dark knight movie.


  • #1580
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    Too much crap with the cops, ok showing him looking through his telescope once is fair enough, but christ i thought i was watching a bloody show on astrology with 4he amount of times we had to look through that cops bloody telescope

    That was done to emphasize exactly what the cop could see as opposed to what we could see I'd imagine.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1581
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    KKkitty wrote: »
    Tommy is annoying me so far.

    Why? Sure he hasn't said or done a thing :D

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



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  • #1582
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    Few people on twitter struggling as to why Paulie would only have a cheap Nokia. Think of it like this. He is not going to spend big money on something he might have to have to chuck into the river afterwards due to the fact it could be incriminating evidence.


  • #1583
    Witcher
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Few people on twitter struggling as to why Paulie would only have a cheap Nokia. Think of it like this. He is not going to spend big money on something he might have to have to chuck into the river afterwards due to the fact it could be incriminating evidence.

    Exactly what I thought the second I saw it.

    Anyone that watches a bit of NCIS etc. knows a burn phone is an essential.


  • #1584
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Few people on twitter struggling as to why Paulie would only have a cheap Nokia.


    He must monitor Boards Bargain Alerts     :D

    -

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1585
    foxtrot101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭foxtrot101


    mzungu wrote: »
    This made me wonder about the final scene of the last series with Nidge in the cell. Maybe Fran gets out on bail and for his own protection Nidge goes into prison.

    I was kind of thinking that "I've got a bone to pick with you" will do for nidge in the end. The finger is still hanging around Fran's caravan. The writer must of kept it there for a reason.


  • #1586
    Amazingfun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    How I wish I could watch this whole series in one go!! Brilliant episode, (despite how easy it was for the garda to follow Fran all about the place unnoticed).

    Only the second time Love/Hate made me cry; first time when Darren got shot and killed by Lizzie, and tonight when poor Frano found out the truth about Nidge pipebombing Linda. :(:o


  • #1587
    maryenault
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 ✭maryenault


    I loved Tony Soprano too, it's quality entertainment


  • #1588
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    foxtrot101 wrote: »
    I was kind of thinking that "I've got a bone to pick with you" will do for nidge in the end. The finger is still hanging around Fran's caravan. The writer must of kept it there for a reason.

    Maybe the Gardai will get a warrant to search Frans caravan (If they know of it's existence) and find something that might point the finger at Nidge ;)

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #1589
    Lovely Bloke
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,748 ✭✭✭✭Lovely Bloke


    gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Paulie did twig in tonight's episode that Siobhan doesn't like Nidge didn't he.

    twig? he asked her a direct question.


  • #1590
    Larry Wildman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    If/when Nidge goes, it's all over.

    My view is that the final scene of the final episode will be Nidge either dying or surviving.

    We're not gonna see Series 7 with Elmo leading the lads!


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  • #1591
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    gadgetman496 wrote: »
    Speaking of bodyguards, where was Nidge's new guy tonight? Can he not do overtime due to budget cuts also?
    Didn't Paulie say he had to borrow him when he called to the house?
    Nidge even said 'I managed to take a piss before x arrived'?


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