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  • #392
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Mike747 wrote: »
    Lol at the outrage. This isn't Sweden, men are allowed have opinions on women. Deal with it.

    Oh it isn't? Well that justifies everything you've said. In fact, I'm just going to save myself for marriage now, and I might even stay at home and cook and clean all day too while I'm at it :)


  • #393
    AndreaCollins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭AndreaCollins


    sup_dude wrote: »
    They were told they need to grow up if they said any of the negative things, not if they just stated their preference. As I said.



    Nope. They were shamed for having the preference in the first place. Im not talking about the guys who insulted women.


  • #394
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    AndreaCollins wrote: »
    Nope. They were shamed for having the preference in the first place. Im not talking about the guys who insulted women.

    Again, did you read the thread? Nobody who said it was just one of their preferences was attacked. In fact, it was repeated several times throughout the thread that that is perfectly fine.


  • #395
    AndreaCollins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭AndreaCollins


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Again, did you read the thread? Nobody who said it was just one of their preferences was attacked. In fact, it was repeated several times throughout the thread that that is perfectly fine.


    I did read the thread yes. Many people chimed in and said that they actual preference in itself was a negative thing and assumed that the preference in itself was a sign of something negative in the poster.

    Since we agree that it isn't, thats good.


  • #396
    Mike747
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 383 ✭✭Mike747


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Oh it isn't? Well that justifies everything you've said. In fact, I'm just going to save myself for marriage now, and I might even stay at home and cook and clean all day too while I'm at it :)

    And the tirade continues. Men have preferences in women and (shock, horror) sometimes judge them. Women do the same to men. Frankly, if a woman started this thread about her boyfriend's number of sexual partners there wouldn't be any problem.


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  • #397
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Hi Andrea,

    Interesting how you found this forum so randomly. :)


  • #398
    desertcircus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    Mike747 wrote: »
    Lol at the outrage. This isn't Sweden, men are allowed have opinions on women. Deal with it.

    Swing and a miss at the point being made.


  • #399
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Mike747 wrote: »
    And the tirade continues. Men have preferences in women and (shock, horror) sometimes judge them. Women do the same to men. Frankly, if a woman started this thread about her boyfriend's number of sexual partners there wouldn't be any problem.

    Shock horror, sometimes women like sex too :eek: People can judge, it doesn't make them right, nor does it give them the right to be excluded from judgement back.

    They might do, but how many of them claim men who sleep around have mental health issues or an alcohol/drug addiction?


  • #400
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Meh, I'd say some guys who want a borderline virgin girlfriend whom they can control, are happily ****ing around non stop themselves.


  • #401
    AndreaCollins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 61 ✭✭AndreaCollins


    Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »
    Meh, I'd say some guys who want a borderline virgin girlfriend whom they can control, are happily ****ing around non stop themselves.


    There you go again putting words into their mouths - "whom they can control".

    Negative shaming.


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  • #402
    DoYouEvenLift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    So many people on this forum are such tryhards at being totally politically correct and I'm not sure why. So many on here just seems like they were the type that reminded the teacher they forgot to give homework when they were in school. You're on an anonymous forum and I know forums are for discussions about everything but some of you need to lighten up, I can tell that some of you are the kinds of people that will actually take posts on here to heart and be affected by it in real life. Who are you trying to impress by forcing yourself into a totally permanent form of political correctness? A lot of you are hypocrites who get mad and angry at others for judging people when in doing so you are actually judging another person yourself.


    "Do not judge people guys, because I will judge you for doing so!"


  • #403
    Mister Vain
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    So many people on this forum are such tryhards at being totally politically correct and I'm not sure why. So many on here just seems like they were the type that reminded the teacher they forgot to give homework when they were in school. You're on an anonymous forum and I know forums are for discussions about everything but some of you need to lighten up, I can tell that some of you are the kinds of people that will actually take posts on here to heart and be affected by it in real life. Who are you trying to impress by forcing yourself into a totally permanent form of political correctness? A lot of you are hypocrites who get mad and angry at others for judging people when in doing so you are actually judging another person yourself.


    "Do not judge people guys, because I will judge you for doing so!"

    There's no PC brigade here. People are expressing their opinions. Just because you don't agree with them, that doesn't mean they're trying to be PC.


  • #404
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    AndreaCollins wrote: »
    There you go again putting words into their mouths - "whom they can control".

    Negative shaming.

    I think that was referring to a few posts back. Serious question Andrea, if you were someone who came on here and seen a whole heap of posts about you that were not true in the slightest and even down right insulting, would you be perfectly okay with it? Would you go so far as to even defend those dishing out those backwards thinking insults?
    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    So many people on this forum are such tryhards at being totally politically correct and I'm not sure why. So many on here just seems like they were the type that reminded the teacher they forgot to give homework when they were in school. You're on an anonymous forum and I know forums are for discussions about everything but some of you need to lighten up, I can tell that some of you are the kinds of people that will actually take posts on here to heart and be affected by it in real life. Who are you trying to impress by forcing yourself into a totally permanent form of political correctness? A lot of you are hypocrites who get mad and angry at others for judging people when in doing so you are actually judging another person yourself.


    "Do not judge people guys, because I will judge you for doing so!"

    It's not about trying to be politically correct. Could you imagine if someone came up with a thread that said they wouldn't date a black person because they're more like to cheat? Or they wouldn't date someone who liked animals because they're probably mentally unstable? Would you consider the people defending that to have gone political correctness mad? This may not affect you by voicing your opinion, but the opinion around here is shocking widespread and whether it's here or not, does affect people in real life. Thankfully, we aren't all stuck in the 1700s but there are still some people who are and they like to say disgusting things about people they don't even know, further ingraining a backwards idea into the general public. The sooner people accept that woman like sex too, the better.


  • #405
    desertcircus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    So many people on this forum are such tryhards at being totally politically correct and I'm not sure why. So many on here just seems like they were the type that reminded the teacher they forgot to give homework when they were in school. You're on an anonymous forum and I know forums are for discussions about everything but some of you need to lighten up, I can tell that some of you are the kinds of people that will actually take posts on here to heart and be affected by it in real life. Who are you trying to impress by forcing yourself into a totally permanent form of political correctness? A lot of you are hypocrites who get mad and angry at others for judging people when in doing so you are actually judging another person yourself.


    "Do not judge people guys, because I will judge you for doing so!"

    Judging people: apparently fine. Judging people who judge people: apparently not fine. Judging people for judging people who judge people: apparently back to fine. How does the pattern work? Is it all odd-numbered levels of meta judgement that are okay?


  • #406
    DoYouEvenLift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    sup_dude wrote: »
    I think that was referring to a few posts back. Serious question Andrea, if you were someone who came on here and seen a whole heap of posts about you that were not true in the slightest and even down right insulting, would you be perfectly okay with it? Would you go so far as to even defend those dishing out those backwards thinking insults?



    It's not about trying to be politically correct. Could you imagine if someone came up with a thread that said they wouldn't date a black person because they're more like to cheat? Or they wouldn't date someone who liked animals because they're probably mentally unstable? Would you consider the people defending that to have gone political correctness mad? This may not affect you by voicing your opinion, but the opinion around here is shocking widespread and whether it's here or not, does affect people in real life. Thankfully, we aren't all stuck in the 1700s but there are still some people who are and they like to say disgusting things about people they don't even know, further ingraining a backwards idea into the general public. The sooner people accept that woman like sex too, the better.


    Can a black person help having being born black?

    desertcircus wrote: »
    Judging people: apparently fine. Judging people who judge people: apparently not fine. Judging people for judging people who judge people: apparently back to fine. How does the pattern work? Is it all odd-numbered levels of meta judgement that are okay?

    I judge people on everything, I have no problem admitting that. I think every human ever has judged people so I just don't see why some people try to uphold some front as if they're saints that don't judge. Every day, even if subconsciously, we judge others whether we like it it or not, no matter how logical and progressive thinking we consider ourselves.


  • #407
    desertcircus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭desertcircus


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    Can a black person help having being born black?

    Oh dear. Comparison failure.


  • #408
    Ave Sodalis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    Can a black person help having being born black?

    Can a woman help like doing the most basic thing we are meant to do?
    I wouldn't mind if it made any sense but we have a whole heap of nerves down there that very few other animals have, solely for pleasure and women have a lot more than men do.


  • #409
    DoYouEvenLift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    sup_dude wrote: »
    Can a woman help like doing the most basic thing we are meant to do?
    I wouldn't mind if it made any sense but we have a whole heap of nerves down there that very few other animals have, solely for pleasure and women have a lot more than men do.


    I made a previous post ITT that covers my opinion/preferred method of dealing with this situation, obviously went amiss. I'll repost it.

    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    Can I ask also: If a woman has a high number and the man doesn't ask then that's fine. If the man asks and the woman explains that she simply doesn't want to talk about it then that's also fine (the man can take from that what he wants and he can end/continue the relationship if he feels he should for not receiving a straight answer or other reasons and she can also end/continue the relationship if she feels she doesn't wish to be with someone who finds her past important). But if the man asks and the woman disregards both of the previous points I've made and decides to answer with a lie, how is that justifiable as the past isn't any of his business and it's just all history? Should she not be totally honest and either accept that the man finds the topic important and if he feels her number is too high then he's obviously entitled to end the relationship and she is now free to try to find another man who will, but if he doesn't she will know that he is okay with her true number and she has found a partner who she can now be totally secure in at least one more part of her relationship with him knowing at least he hasn't/won't leave her based on her past?


    This can be applied with the genders reversed also, for anyone that feels I may be holding double standards. Wouldn't following a system similar to this make everybody happy?


  • #410
    RDM_83 again
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,116 ✭✭✭RDM_83 again


    beks101 wrote: »
    That's a bit unfair, don't you think? Pulling up a post I wrote more than a year ago without adding any of the context of the thread at the time in order to personally attack me? Nothing better to be doing?
    ----
    But feel free to trawl through my post history and find some more evidence to use as ammunition against me, I've been posting since 2008, knock yourself right out.

    Posting this as I deleted my previous post in reply but have since found my original post has been snipped without your post being snipped implying I'm obsessively trawling through your posts . I even added the bit about
    RDM_83 again wrote: »
    Ps before you pull the stalker card whenever you gave that post I was certain you'd replied in that thread with something different
    Because I knew it would be implied.

    To clarify it took me all of one minute to find that post, if you know the previous thread title and the persons username you use advanced search, I looked at 2 posts . And as I said I vaguely remembered you posting something different previously, the thread I saw it on was active till fairly recently.
    But apologies I didn't realize previous posts were not allowed to be quoted and I didn't realize your views had changed in the last year, I do actually agree with you that its stupid to judge someone solely on their number.

    Anyway my point still stands that we all judge potential partners sexual pasts, we can put a large or small emphasis on this fact, we each put different positive and negative values on different behaviors, its human to be like that.

    Whats hypocritical is to be offended by others internal judgment of potential "relationship value" when we carry out the same judgments ourselves in terms of "relationship value".
    Externalized judgment of placing a value on somebody as a person rather than as a potential partner, as has been illustrated by some of the posters on the thread, is a completely different matter as that does have a wider impact


  • #411
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    DoYouEvenLift wrote: »
    So many people on this forum are such tryhards at being totally politically correct and I'm not sure why. So many on here just seems like they were the type that reminded the teacher they forgot to give homework when they were in school. You're on an anonymous forum and I know forums are for discussions about everything but some of you need to lighten up, I can tell that some of you are the kinds of people that will actually take posts on here to heart and be affected by it in real life. Who are you trying to impress by forcing yourself into a totally permanent form of political correctness? A lot of you are hypocrites who get mad and angry at others for judging people when in doing so you are actually judging another person yourself.


    "Do not judge people guys, because I will judge you for doing so!"
    It's popular for a lot of people to just throw out the "PC" accusation, but they usually don't know what it means - e.g. in this case.
    What the fug do people's responses that are at odds with yours have to do with political correctness?

    If a man or a woman doesn't want to be with someone who has had a rampantly promiscuous past, that's their personal preference (it's mine, for what it's worth) but if a man wants to be with a virgin only or with a woman who has had sex with hardly any men, even by her late 20s, then people will debate it for the controlling mindset that it is (especially if he's ok with men being promiscuous and if he resorts to that misogynistic lock and key tripe).

    If you don't want it to be debated, don't post your view.


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  • #412
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    AndreaCollins wrote: »
    There you go again putting words into their mouths - "whom they can control".

    Negative shaming.
    I wonder is it the (sorry for being graphic) "tightness" that makes them want her to be a virgin.


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