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Is there "something wrong" with a guy if he...

  • 06-10-2014 9:24pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 245 ✭✭paddy1990


    Doesn't want his future wife to have had sex with 20+ guys?

    I was talking to some friends and this came up and the girls were all saying that any guy who has a problem with it (i threw out 20 as an arbitrary number) all had a complex and had issues and "something wrong" with them.

    What was funny to me was that some men agreed with the women. I think there was an element of white knighting going on, as the girl that was the most outspoken is absolutely gorgeous, so some of the lads would have been white knighting in the hopes of keeping any hope alive of something happening between them and her on a drunken night. In fact one guy actually admitted this afterwards lol

    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.


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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    paddy1990 wrote: »
    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

    Id rather marry someone who I get along with, but, you know, each to their own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭SparkySpitfire


    Well in that case, I hope you come to your future wife with as few notches on your belt as you expect her to have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Daft outlook to have.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Cassidy Nutritious Sympathy


    Virginity fetish is it


    Id rather marry someone who I get along with, but, you know, each to their own.

    :D
    yea


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    paddy1990 wrote: »
    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

    So someone with the same experience as yourself then?

    Understandable.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    In4 beta providers being okay with their possible future wives and partners being mothers to their offspring knowing they have previously had sex/blown countless other men.

    'Insert lock and key analogy here.'

    Those men were more than likely just agreeing because they're afraid of offending the women and think it'll give them a chance to get with them themselves. All women have beta orbiters, you know this.

    So someone with the same experience as yourself then?

    Understandable.

    Ayy lmao


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    paddy1990 wrote: »

    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

    Nah man she could be a right sack of spuds, you don't want that. A girl who has had quite a few partners is more likely to be good in the bedroom through experience. Obviously this is not always the case, but the odds are improved. She doesn't have to be a complete dirtbird either.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    In4 beta providers being okay with their possible future wives and partners being mothers to their offspring knowing they have previously had sex/blown countless other men.

    I accept that it matters to some people how many sexual partners their current partner has had. Whether this is right or wrong, rational or irrational, whether they prefer someone with more or less experience than them etc it cant be denied that many people feel that this is an important thing about their lover.

    But I got to ask you, how does it impact on their parental abilities?

    Surely, without being too glib, these are two very different skill sets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Mark Tapley


    paddy1990 wrote: »
    Doesn't want his future wife to have had sex with 20+ guys?

    I was talking to some friends and this came up and the girls were all saying that any guy who has a problem with it (i threw out 20 as an arbitrary number) all had a complex and had issues and "something wrong" with them.

    What was funny to me was that some men agreed with the women. I think there was an element of white knighting going on, as the girl that was the most outspoken is absolutely gorgeous, so some of the lads would have been white knighting in the hopes of keeping any hope alive of something happening between them and her on a drunken night. In fact one guy actually admitted this afterwards lol

    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

    Is this related to your concerns about insects passing on characteristics of previous sexual partners to their offspring.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭gunny558


    Galena Rhoades (Ph.D. in psychology) and Research Professor Scott Stanley published a paper through the University of Denver recently enough. I havent read it, but I think the gist of it is the more partners a woman has, the more likely she is to cheat on you. You're better off finding a woman with a low count if you actually plan on having a successful marraige.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Nah man she could be a right sack of spuds, you don't want that. A girl who has had quite a few partners is more likely to be good in the bedroom through experience. Obviously this is not always the case, but the odds are improved. She doesn't have to be a complete dirtbird either.

    A high number of previous sexual partners can also be linked with unhappy marriages down the line: www . huffingtonpost . com/2014/08/21/more-sexual-partners-unhappy-marriage_n_5698440.html

    Can't embed links yet, sorry.
    I accept that it matters to some people how many sexual partners their current partner has had. Whether this is right or wrong, rational or irrational, whether they prefer someone with more or less experience than them etc it cant be denied that many people feel that this is an important thing about their lover.

    But I got to ask you, how does it impact on their parental abilities?

    Surely, without being too glib, these are two very different skill sets.

    Parts of my post might sound crude but I'm not sure how else to put it, to be honest.


    I, personally, just wouldn't be comfortable seeing a woman who has a high number of previous sexual partners go on to have a kid and then kiss that child with the same mouth that has had multiple, multiple men blow their loads into. I'm saying this because I've experienced it in real life during school when the village bicycle had sex with over 30 people that we know of, its probably well over 50 to be honest, before she was even 18. Nobody respected her or took her seriously because of this. Now she has a child and it's just uncomfortable seeing it. And that's how I feel about a girl I don't even personally know. It'd be a lot worse if I was to be the one ending up with a girl like that, but I wouldn't allow it to happen and put myself through that in the first place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,193 ✭✭✭Mark Tapley


    A high number of previous sexual partners can also be linked with unhappy marriages down the line: www . huffingtonpost . com/2014/08/21/more-sexual-partners-unhappy-marriage_n_5698440.html

    Can't embed links yet, sorry.



    Parts of my post might sound crude but I'm not sure how else to put it, to be honest.


    I, personally, just wouldn't be comfortable seeing a woman who has a high number of previous sexual partners go on to have a kid and then kiss that child with the same mouth that has had multiple, multiple men blow their loads into. I'm saying this because I've experienced it in real life during school when the village bicycle had sex with over 30 people that we know of, its probably well over 50 to be honest, before she was even 18. Nobody respected her or took her seriously because of this. Now she has a child and it's just uncomfortable seeing it.

    Not so much crude as evidence of unpleasant thought processes. Why are you uncomfortable seeing this woman with a child?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    A high number of previous sexual partners can also be linked with unhappy marriages down the line: www . huffingtonpost . com/2014/08/21/more-sexual-partners-unhappy-marriage_n_5698440.html

    Can't embed links yet, sorry.



    Parts of my post might sound crude but I'm not sure how else to put it, to be honest.


    I, personally, just wouldn't be comfortable seeing a woman who has a high number of previous sexual partners go on to have a kid and then kiss that child with the same mouth that has had multiple, multiple men blow their loads into. I'm saying this because I've experienced it in real life during school when the village bicycle had sex with over 30 people that we know of, its probably well over 50 to be honest, before she was even 18. Nobody respected her or took her seriously because of this. Now she has a child and it's just uncomfortable seeing it.


    Mod

    Tone down your derogatory language. It's not acceptable or necessary in this forum. Also, as per our charter, PUA is not allowed to be discussed here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭Daveysil15


    paddy1990 wrote: »
    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

    Coming for the guy who admits been promiscuous and meeting loads of women from dating sites?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    20 by, say, 28 isn't that many. The thing about the 18-year-old girl, yeh id understand that being a turn-off but that's an extreme. 20 by 28 isn't even slightly comparable.
    But yeh I'd understand someone being turned off by a person (male or female) having a number of sexual conquests that indicates addictive behaviour.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    20 by, say, 28 isn't that many. The thing about the 18-year-old girl, yeh id understand that being a turn-off but that's an extreme. 20 by 28 isn't even slightly comparable.
    But yeh I'd understand someone being turned off by a person (male or female) having a number of sexual conquests that indicates addictive behaviour.


    Riiiiiggghhhhhtttttt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Nothing wrong with wanting a virgin but there is no need to constantly run down those with a history as if its a character flaw. You might be able to count your lovers on one hand but it doesn't mean anything. You could have been lucky to find someone young, you could have been so lacking in confidence that you never put yourself out there or you could have been in a long term relationship and had one or two affairs. Personally I prefer to know my partner was having sex responsibly regardless of the number.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭astonaidan


    Is this really still a thing to be weirded about :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭moonshadow


    Quote,

    "Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal."

    Two questions,
    1. Are you 14 years old ?
    2. Are you Paddy 147 in disguise ? (How's the briquettes going?)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭catallus


    This makes sense, if you want your kids not to look like her previous 200 partners! :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Riiiiiggghhhhhtttttt.

    That's only about two a year...

    I really don't see why it's such a big problem. My number is around twenty and that's in a three year period, two if you discount the year I've been with my boyfriend. I'm clean and healthy. I'm not going to cheat on my boyfriend, and he doesn't really want to know my number because it's completely irrelevant so I don't see it causing any problems down the line. In terms of parenting, some people actually do this thing called showering and brushing their teeth so traces of other men are long gone, as are their memories for the most part. The fact that that's what you imagine when you see that girl says more about you than about her.

    I honestly wouldn't have time for a man who has such a big problem with it. It shows immaturity and a backwards mindset, that hints on sexism and a controlling nature, particularly if they have a high count themselves and the same rules don't apply to men. I happen to know that my partner has only had potentially three girls max, including me but if his count was higher, I wouldn't care as long as he was healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Personally, 20 is a bit off putting to me. No matter what age the lady is.

    Not judging anyone but no thank you.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Doom


    paddy1990 wrote: »
    Doesn't want his future wife to have had sex with 20+ guys?

    I was talking to some friends and this came up and the girls were all saying that any guy who has a problem with it (i threw out 20 as an arbitrary number) all had a complex and had issues and "something wrong" with them.

    What was funny to me was that some men agreed with the women. I think there was an element of white knighting going on, as the girl that was the most outspoken is absolutely gorgeous, so some of the lads would have been white knighting in the hopes of keeping any hope alive of something happening between them and her on a drunken night. In fact one guy actually admitted this afterwards lol

    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

    If you are Muslim you will get 20 virgins when you die.... Why not still wait till then?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    sup_dude wrote: »
    That's only about two a year...

    I really don't see why it's such a big problem. My number is around twenty and that's in a three year period, two if you discount the year I've been with my boyfriend. I'm clean and healthy. I'm not going to cheat on my boyfriend, and he doesn't really want to know my number because it's completely irrelevant so I don't see it causing any problems down the line. In terms of parenting, some people actually do this thing called showering and brushing their teeth so traces of other men are long gone, as are their memories for the most part. The fact that that's what you imagine when you see that girl says more about you than about her.

    I honestly wouldn't have time for a man who has such a big problem with it. It shows immaturity and a backwards mindset, that hints on sexism and a controlling nature, particularly if they have a high count themselves and the same rules don't apply to men. I happen to know that my partner has only had potentially three girls max, including me but if his count was higher, I wouldn't care as long as he was healthy.


    Well that's kind of a given seeing as he also probably wouldn't have time for you since 20 would more than likely fall above what's an acceptable number to him.

    If someones number is high enough that they personally don't feel comfortable disclosing the honest truth in fear of the relationship ending or that one partner suspects the others of being too high to personally be able to accept that they fear even knowing the truth then it's just a tad bit sad that two people in a relationship cannot be completely open and honest with one another. If I was in that kind of situation I wouldn't settle until I was with someone I could be truly honest with and be accepted. Also, someone not being comfortable telling the truth about their number of previous partners seems a little insecure in my opinion. I mean, if women are going to try to be like certain men when it comes to having high numbers of sexual partners, which isn't actually very common I might add, then women should also be as confident about their high numbers as men are and be prepared to be open about it...[sarcasm]unless, of course, the woman feels guilty about it for some odd reason.[/sarcasm]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭gunny558


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with wanting a virgin but there is no need to constantly run down those with a history as if its a character flaw.

    I dont think people are saying its a black mark on your character. They'd probably still be friends with you (and even have a one night stand) but when it comes to settling down with a long term partner then its just something they wouldnt fancy in a woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Now she has a child and it's just uncomfortable seeing it.

    Bahahaha!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    gunny558 wrote: »
    Galena Rhoades (Ph.D. in psychology) and Research Professor Scott Stanley published a paper through the University of Denver recently enough. I havent read it, but I think the gist of it is the more partners a woman has, the more likely she is to cheat on you. You're better off finding a woman with a low count if you actually plan on having a successful marraige.

    Firstly who says a successful marriage has to be monogamous?

    Secondly what ever two people decide works for them one constant holds in the vast majority of cases and that's honesty and trust, if you don't have that then there's not really much else to worry about; you're doomed to fail.

    Thirdly, 1951 would like this thread back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    paddy1990 wrote: »

    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

    Odd attitude, Paddy. I wouldn't be advertising it if you want any girl to take you seriously, unless you're a virgin too.

    Which of course would be none of her business, unless you chose to tell her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bepolite wrote: »
    Firstly who says a successful marriage has to be monogamous?

    I do. But only for me, of course. Don't really care what other people do.

    :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,737 ✭✭✭Bepolite


    endacl wrote: »
    Odd attitude, Paddy. I wouldn't be advertising it if you want any girl to take you seriously, unless you're a virgin too.

    Which of course would be none of her business, unless you chose to tell her.

    I know a fair few who would take him seriously, generally all to be found gathered in one place on a Sunday and the very best of luck to all of them. The only thing I have an issue with is the hypocrisy of a guy who goes out every week end on the pull and then expects to marry little miss demure, shrinking violet. I'm not suggesting that's the case with the OP only he knows the truth on that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,935 ✭✭✭donegal_man


    Would you insist on knowing how many partners someone had had before entering into a relationship with them? It's an honest question as I can't see how you would introduce it into a conversation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Well that's kind of a given seeing as he also probably wouldn't have time for you since 20 would more than likely fall above what's an acceptable number to him.

    If someones number is high enough that they personally don't feel comfortable disclosing the honest truth in fear of the relationship ending or that one partner suspects the others of being too high to personally be able to accept that they fear even knowing the truth then it's just a tad bit sad that two people in a relationship cannot be completely open and honest with one another. If I was in that kind of situation I wouldn't settle until I was with someone I could be truly honest with and be accepted. Also, someone not being comfortable telling the truth about their number of previous partners seems a little insecure in my opinion. I mean, if women are going to try to be like certain men when it comes to having high numbers of sexual partners, which isn't actually very common I might add, then women should also be as confident about their high numbers as men are and be prepared to be open about it...[sarcasm]unless, of course, the woman feels guilty about it for some odd reason.[/sarcasm]

    It's not about openness or honesty. For a lot of people it's about not really caring that much about it in the first place.

    No idea how many previous sexual partners my wife's had and she's no idea how many I've had, but neither of us were virgins when we met.

    We've been married over 10years and it's honestly never cropped up in conversation. It's irrelevant really who she's been with sexually in the past, I'm far more interested in who she's with sexually in the present - that'd be me .

    I've found from previous relationships that people who are obsessed with knowing 'the number' tend to be a bit lacking in self-confidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    It's not about openness or honesty. For a lot of people it's about not really caring that much about it in the first place.

    No idea how many previous sexual partners my wife's had and she's no idea how many I've had, but neither of us were virgins when we met.

    We've been married over 10years and it's honestly never cropped up in conversation. It's irrelevant really who she's been with sexually in the past, I'm far more interested in who she's with sexually in the present - that'd be me .

    I've found from previous relationships that people who are obsessed with knowing 'the number' tend to be a bit lacking in self-confidence.

    +100%

    My fiance does not know my "number", I dont know hers, nor do either of us care. As you said above, who she is having sex with now is all that matters.


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    paddy1990 wrote: »
    Is there "something wrong" with a guy if he...
    doesn't want his future wife to have had sex with 20+ guys?

    I would not say there is anything "wrong" with it. Everyone has their preferences. I simply do not understand this particular preference myself. If a girl is sexually healthy in the present - then who she was with in the past would bother me not at all. That other people think otherwise is clear - but why they do is not I guess.

    I have many criteria for picking a partner - and their sexual history is simply not on the list. Perhaps there is something "wrong" with me. Actually my partners having little sexual experience before meeting me is one reason why extra-relationship activity is an avenue worth exploring. I would actually not like to think I am the only person a girl has sex with in their whole life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    Well that's kind of a given seeing as he also probably wouldn't have time for you since 20 would more than likely fall above what's an acceptable number to him.

    If someones number is high enough that they personally don't feel comfortable disclosing the honest truth in fear of the relationship ending or that one partner suspects the others of being too high to personally be able to accept that they fear even knowing the truth then it's just a tad bit sad that two people in a relationship cannot be completely open and honest with one another. If I was in that kind of situation I wouldn't settle until I was with someone I could be truly honest with and be accepted. Also, someone not being comfortable telling the truth about their number of previous partners seems a little insecure in my opinion. I mean, if women are going to try to be like certain men when it comes to having high numbers of sexual partners, which isn't actually very common I might add, then women should also be as confident about their high numbers as men are and be prepared to be open about it...[sarcasm]unless, of course, the woman feels guilty about it for some odd reason.[/sarcasm]

    Not once did I say I was afraid of telling him for fear of my relationship ending. I said he doesn't know because it's irrelevant so he never felt the need to ask. If he wanted to know, I would tell him and if he had a problem with it (and I don't see how he would) then I'd be better off without someone who judges me like that. Luckily, my boyfriend knows that it's irrelevant and that the only thing that matters now is that I only have one.

    Also, I have a high number because I like sex and was single up until my boyfriend. Not because I want to be like a man.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    I have a two fold question for those that say the amount of partners someone had had would be an issue.

    Firstly, say you meet the girl of your dreams, someone that ticks the boxes in every conceievable way based on your own preferences but you find out she had had intercourse with <insert your own cut off point here> partners.

    Would you over look it if she had slept with 1,2,3 or what ever more partners than you would deem normally acceptable?

    What's the cut off point, if any?

    Secondly, if the conversation came up with a partner and it turned out you had slept with twice as many people as she had. She decides based on your number that you have been too promiscuous for her tastes and bins you, I presume that would be 100% acceptable?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,217 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Firstly, say you meet the girl of your dreams, someone that ticks the boxes in every conceievable way based on your own preferences but you find out she had had intercourse with <insert your own cut off point here> partners.

    Would you over look it if she had slept with 1,2,3 or what ever more partners than you would deem normally acceptable?

    What's the cut off point, if any?
    For me the cut off point would be less a figure than the mentality/worldview behind it. A narcissist with self control issues with 10 would be a lot more of an issue than an emotionally stable woman with 20. However if the number is up at three figures I'd be asking questions regardless.
    Secondly, if the conversation came up with a partner and it turned out you had slept with twice as many people as she had. She decides based on your number that you have been too promiscuous for her tastes and bins you, I presume that would be 100% acceptable?
    Yep. I could perfectly understand their reasoning(if said number was well above average). It would be their choice to make that call, just as it would be my choice in reverse.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭gunny558


    Bepolite wrote: »
    Firstly who says a successful marriage has to be monogamous?

    Secondly what ever two people decide works for them one constant holds in the vast majority of cases and that's honesty and trust, if you don't have that then there's not really much else to worry about; you're doomed to fail.

    Thirdly, 1951 would like this thread back.

    Dont get me wrong, Im not saying the only way a marraige can be happy is through monogomy.

    If an open relationship works for you and having NSA encounters with strangers and your husband is happy then work away. Knock yourself out.

    But for the '1951 lads' amongst us, who actually want a closed relationship- if our woman wanted to sleep around with other men while dating us.... that would be a problem.

    Now Im not going to lie and try and think up reasons etc I can see its silly logic. Her sleeping around doesnt really hurt us in any real way (so long as she uses protection) but I guess we just dont like the idea that shes off sleeping with other men whilst dating us at the same time. Yeh its stupid logic, and probably makes us old fashioned and conservative etc but its just the way we are and theres no changing it. More liberal people like yourself can tell us we are oppressive and controlling etc... but it aint gonna change us :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭dissed doc


    paddy1990 wrote: »
    Doesn't want his future wife to have had sex with 20+ guys?

    I was talking to some friends and this came up and the girls were all saying that any guy who has a problem with it (i threw out 20 as an arbitrary number) all had a complex and had issues and "something wrong" with them.

    What was funny to me was that some men agreed with the women. I think there was an element of white knighting going on, as the girl that was the most outspoken is absolutely gorgeous, so some of the lads would have been white knighting in the hopes of keeping any hope alive of something happening between them and her on a drunken night. In fact one guy actually admitted this afterwards lol

    Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.


    If someone is used to having a lot of sexual partners and variety, they are unlikely to suddenly change if that way of life has developed in parallel to their personality.

    It is not time based but what experience people have developed and how prepared for adult long term relationships they are. 20 partners and 30 years old means e.g., 1 or 2 new people every year in a relationship. Would that person struggle after 3 or 5 years in a relationship leading to marriage? I think so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,447 ✭✭✭Zico


    I thought this was supposed to be the Gentlemen's Club. Whatever happened to never telling?:P

    There are some questions you're better off not knowing the answer to, in my opinion.

    If you've got a number in your head and they come back with a number way below it will you think they're lying?

    Best let sleeping dogs lie. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I often wonder about "the number" and if people who put such an emphasis on it are only concerned with the figure or it they have an issue with the nature of "the number"

    For example, say you meet a person who has had 10 partners. Does it make a difference if those 10 people were proper relationships? Is it better to have been in 10 relationships than say, have had 4 drunken one night stands with people who you barely remember?

    If you have had only had one lover what does that say about you? Does it make you a better prospect than the man or woman who has had a history? If so why and if not, why not?

    I don't get this hang up on the number of sexual partners a person has had, I can understand it if you are young and the people you are looking at as potential dates are young enough not to have a history but for most people over a certain age the idea of a virgin or a person who has only had sex with one person is a bit pie in the sky.

    Personally I want someone who has had a past, who has had a chance to hone his skills and get over his sexual hang ups with someone else. I don't want to have to be a teacher or the one who helps him through his fears of say, oral sex. I'm too old to take someone in hand and guide them. All I need to know is that they are experienced, std free and on the same wave length as me. The actual tally of past lovers is none of my business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,339 ✭✭✭The One Doctor


    The idea of finding a virgin is bizarre. Of the two partners I've had so far, including my current girlfriend with whom our baby is due in December, both have been more experienced than me, teaching me a lot in the process.

    Why would I want a partner with less sexual experience than I have? it doesn't make any sense. A virgin would make for an utterly crap sexual experience. Would I have my car repaired by someone with no experience of repairing cars? Fuck no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Id say its a power/ control thing for OP. She's mine, mine, all mine! I'd hazard a guess OP is likely young, inexperienced and slightly frightened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Sleephead


    Zico wrote: »



    Best let sleeping dogs lie. :)

    That's what caused the issue in the first place!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    The benefits of an experienced girlfriend/wife are obvious.

    But a lot of blokes don't like to think about them picking up that experience.

    The preference being The Immaculate Education, if you will.


    Personally, I don't really think about my wife's sexual history. It doesn't interest me because I love who she is. What she did is irrelevant.

    As is the fact I smoked for a week when I was 11.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,430 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    Sleephead wrote: »
    That's what caused the issue in the first place!

    Mod note - Clean up the tone a bit. Thx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,789 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    It seems reasonable for someone to want a partner with the same attitude to sex as they have themselves.

    In general though, this sort of thing tends to be a problem for certain men who are upset that the amount of sex they would like to have (and the amount they think others are having) doesn't match up with the amount of sex they get.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,552 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    As long as "the number" isn't in the magnitude of several hundreds then I wouldn't be too bothered. It's not really my business. A number of that magnitude would probably be indicative of some sort of issues for anyone of either gender though since I've no intention of dating any men then that's of no concern to me.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,493 ✭✭✭DazMarz


    First and foremost, would be someone who you can get along with, have a laugh with, enjoy being with, someone you can trust, someone who makes you smile when you think of them, someone who you can just be in love with. That would be what I'd look for first!

    When it comes to the bedroom side of things, I'd much rather someone who is very experienced, who knows what they're doing, who'd be open to experimentation and who would be just simply good in bed.

    Previous partners would not mean an awful lot to me, if at all. Maybe if a previous partner was a really, really close friend of mine or something, but even at that, I don't think it would bother me.

    I know plenty of girls who would have a lot of sexual partners, but once they get into a relationship, that guy is the only one for them. That's it. And that is all that really matters.

    This childish bull that some posters have said about the same mouth that was used to perform sexual acts is now being used to kiss their children... That is so childish and such utter rubbish, I don't even know where to start. What about a couple who have never been with anyone else, who have always been together? Surely the female partner in that relationship has performed certain sexual acts on her partner involving her mouth? If they have a child together then, do you still feel the same about her kissing her child?

    (Please note: the above paragraph was insanely hard to write without descending to childish sexual language)

    The bottom line is, once you are happy with your partner, once your sex life is good and once you are faithful to each other... leave the past where it is and move the fúck on. If you are trying to attain that "perfect", virginal woman later in life, you're in for a big disappointment... even if you find her...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    I don't really get why 'the number' has such a significance anyway.
    If a girl is in her mid-20's say, and has had two long term relationships which have lasted around 3 years each, then her number is only two, but she'll have had sex way more times and be far more sexually experienced than a similar girl who's had 30 ONS in the same period.


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