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Alf Veedersane

Mike747 wrote: »

From what I've seen women with very high lay counts tend to have drug/alcohol or mental health issues. Those with more 'average scores' are a lot more stable.

What's the sample size for the former?

Mike747

Barely There wrote: »

Just a follow up question on this.

Why does the number of partners matter so much.

If Girl A has had three long terms partners, she'll have had sex a lot of times, probably 100's of times in a lot of different ways.
Girl B with 40 ONS will have had sex 40 times - probably a lot of those times the actual sex will have been pretty ordinary.

Not to be crude, but Girl A's had a lot more dick in her than Girl B - she's probably experimented a lot more sexually than Girl B because couples in a long-term relationship are going to be more comfortable with each other sexually.

I don't get in this scenario why Girl A is consider relationship/wife material, but Girl B isn't?

Do you really need an answer to that? 40 different dicks, far higher chance of having a std? You don't think that's off putting?

You'd have no problem with a guy whose ****ed dozens of girls before you?

High mileage is not attractive.

Mike747

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

What's the sample size for the former?

The samples size is my personal experiences and the experiences of my friends.

Alf Veedersane

Mike747 wrote: »

The samples size is my personal experiences and the experiences of my friends.

That's not a size.

What's the number?

Penny Tration

Mike747 wrote: »

Do you really need an answer to that? 40 different dicks, far higher chance of having a std? You don't think that's off putting?

You'd have no problem with a guy whose ****ed dozens of girls before you?

High mileage is not attractive.

Lots of people don't have a problem being with a guy with plenty of previous partners. My boyfriend has slept with about 10 times my number. I don't care. He's disease free and eager to please.

Mike747

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

That's not a size.

What's the number?

What you're attempting to do is discredit my opinions and observations by attacking me for not using a scientific method.

This is a common tactic used on Boards when someone expresses an unpopular opinion.

You must understand that everyone in this thread is going on their own experiences.

Alf Veedersane

Mike747 wrote: »

What you're attempting to do is discredit my opinions and observations by attacking me for not using a scientific method.

This is a common tactic used on Boards when someone expresses an unpopular opinion.

You must understand that everyone in this thread is going on their own experiences.

Settle down, Mary-Jane. I'm not trying to 'discredit' or attack.

But if you're going to suggest that women who have a 'high' number have drug, alcohol or mental health problems then you have to qualify it.

That's all. There's no need to get precious about it.

If I said "50% of the women that gave me blowjobs were rubbish at it" it creates a different impression to "2 of the 4 women that have given me blowjobs were rubbish at it".

It's just better to indicate the size of the brush you're going to tar with, that's all.

Your opinion is your opinion but the statement is a little bit sweeping.

Mike747

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Settle down, Mary-Jane. I'm not trying to 'discredit' or attack.

But if you're going to suggest that women who have a 'high' number have drug, alcohol or mental health problems then you have to qualify it.

That's all. There's no need to get precious about it.

If I said "50% of the women that gave me blowjobs were rubbish at it" it creates a different impression to "2 of the 4 women that have given me blowjobs were rubbish at it".

It's just better to indicate the size of the brush you're going to tar with, that's all.

Your opinion is your opinion but the statement is a little bit sweeping.

And if its sweeping what of it? It's what I've seen in real life. I don't have to justify it to you or anyone else.

Alf Veedersane

Mike747 wrote: »

And if its sweeping what of it? It's what I've seen in real life. I don't have to justify it to you or anyone else.

You're very angry

I wasn't asking you to justify your opinion. Just qualify it.

Mike747

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

You're very angry

I wasn't asking you to justify your opinion. Just qualify it.

I shall conduct a nationwide survey on the relationships between substance abuse, mental health and promiscuity. When my work is complete I will get back to you.

desertcircus

Mike747 wrote: »

What you're attempting to do is discredit my opinions and observations by attacking me for not using a scientific method.

This is a common tactic used on Boards when someone expresses an unpopular opinion.

You must understand that everyone in this thread is going on their own experiences.

That's how argument works! Your case is badly lacking, and it was pointed out. That's what's MEANT to happen.

Alf Veedersane

Mike747 wrote: »

I shall conduct a nationwide survey on the relationships between substance abuse, mental health and promiscuity. When my work is complete I will get back to you.

It'd probably just be easier to say "I know of X instances where the woman had a number greater than Y and the majority/they all/<insert number> had drug/alcohol/mental problems".

It would be less time consuming than a national survey.

But if you want to do a nationwide survey, contact the CSO and they might give you funding.

Mike747

desertcircus wrote: »

That's how argument works! Your case is badly lacking, and it was pointed out. That's what's MEANT to happen.

Earlier a poster said 'lots of people have no problem with men who've slept around a lot'. So should I demand she provides raw data to back up her claim of 'lots of people'? Of course not.

In this type of thread we're all going on our life experiences

desertcircus

Mike747 wrote: »

Earlier a poster said 'lots of people have no problem with men who've slept around a lot'. So should I demand she provides raw data to back up her claim of 'lots of people'? Of course not.

In this type of thread we're all going on our life experiences

If you think that claim is suspect, ask for evidence. I think your claim is riddled with confounding problems that make it valueless as a statement about the topic, so I ask for evidence.

Pawwed Rig

Mod note - Attack the post not the poster

desertcircus

Honest question - was that directed at me?

desertcircus

Mike747 wrote: »

From what I've seen women with very high lay counts tend to have drug/alcohol or mental health issues. Those with more 'average scores' are a lot more stable.

To attack the post:

There are several issues with the above that make it impossible to rely on it as a factual claim. In no particular order:

1. There's no mention of the sample size, so we can't tell whether the disparity is the effect of random chance.
2. We're talking about a self-selecting group, which magnifies the potential for inaccurate conclusions.
3. Confirmation bias is a strong possibility, as people see what they expect to see and miss conflicting evidence.
4. No mention is given to the possibility that some women may lie about the number of prior sexual partners they've had.
5. Women with fewer sexual partners may be less open about their mental health or intoxicant consumption: if this is systemic, it renders the results null and void.

I suspect there are other problems, but the above should be sufficient to explain why I don't think the poster's stated experience is sufficient to support an assumption that can be extended to women in general, or especially a single woman in particular.

Lux23

If you fall for someone, you won't care who they have been with.

I think having a list of wants in a partner is naive, it doesn't work like that. Having said that I would be more jealous if my boyfriend had had a long term relationship with serious baggage than multiple sexual partners. One night stands and casual sex means nothing, it is just something to do until the right person comes along.

Pawwed Rig

Lux23 wrote: »

If you fall for someone, you won't care who they have been with.

Not really true as this thread has shown. It can be a big issue for some people. I would have to admit I would be turned off by someone with what I considered to be a high number of previous partners.
There are many traits that different people dislike that others do not have an issue with.

skallywag

I would be turned off myself.

It's not something that I have made a conscious decision on, and there may not even be any real logic behind it, it's just something that's intrinsic somehow.

Ave Sodalis

Mike747 wrote: »

From what I've seen women with very high lay counts tend to have drug/alcohol or mental health issues. Those with more 'average scores' are a lot more stable.

So you can claim that woman with a high number of men have some sort of problem but if someone challenges that, they're unrealistic and your posts dismiss and even have angry tones. Yet woman can't get angry at you for saying they have problems or they're just being typical?
I don't have a drug or alcohol problem, in fact I don't do either. Nor do I have mental health issues and yet, according to this thread, I've a high number. I have to say, in my own experiences, girls with mental health issues, as you put it, tend to cling to men and become freakishly controlling over them.

herisson

I really couldnt give a flying fcuk if my furture husband has slept with a load of women.

As long as i get along with him, i really dont care.

sbsquarepants

paddy1990 wrote: »

Personally I would rather marry a girl with as low an amount of sexual partners as possible, with a virgin being absolutely ideal.

Eh, no thanks. Give me someone who knows what they are doing, over some prude who has protected her "special gift" or some such bollox every single time.

DoYouEvenLift wrote: »

I, personally, just wouldn't be comfortable seeing a woman who has a high number of previous sexual partners go on to have a kid and then kiss that child with the same mouth that has had multiple, multiple men blow their loads into. I'm saying this because I've experienced it in real life during school when the village bicycle had sex with over 30 people that we know of, its probably well over 50 to be honest, before she was even 18. Nobody respected her or took her seriously because of this. Now she has a child and it's just uncomfortable seeing it. And that's how I feel about a girl I don't even personally know. It'd be a lot worse if I was to be the one ending up with a girl like that, but I wouldn't allow it to happen and put myself through that in the first place.

If I was you I'd move, sounds like you're surrounded by fúckwits.
Actually stay where you are, seems like the right place for you.

herisson

Mike747 wrote: »

From what I've seen women with very high lay counts tend to have drug/alcohol or mental health issues. Those with more 'average scores' are a lot more stable.

So women who have a high score have mental issues?

That is absolutely ridiculous statement to make.

What about men? Does the same go for them if they have a high score?

Some women actually like having a lot of sex. Some with the same partner, some with different. Alcohol/drug/mental issues, dont always come into play here.

sbsquarepants

It's typical catholic guilt bolloxology is all it is. Man or woman - you loose nothing by having sex with someone - you haven't given anything away, no more than if you'd gone for a nice stroll in the park. All you've done is have a (hopefully) nice time with another person - there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, nothing at all. Anyone who thinks there is just plain wrong.

paddy1990

RDM_83 again wrote: »

Actually Beks your a hypocrite, you do judge peoples relationship suitability on their sexual past. What you don't like is people judging you on your past.



Ps before you pull the stalker card whenever you gave that post I was certain you'd replied in that thread with something different

Edit:Perhaps hypocrite is a bit harsh but it definitely indicates the issue i mentioned earlier that posters in these types of threads don't seem to be aware of the value judgements they make while critising others for being judgemental

OWNED

Good post.

If Beks found out her BF has been with 50 escorts in the past would she have a problem with it? Seems like her argument is to disregard this post because she wrote it a year ago? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Viper_JB

herisson wrote: »

So women who have a high score have mental issues?

That is absolutely ridiculous statement to make.

What about men? Does the same go for them if they have a high score?

Some women actually like having a lot of sex. Some with the same partner, some with different. Alcohol/drug/mental issues, dont always come into play here.

Yep, some crazy immature drivel being touted out here, sexual history shouldn't matter really, in my experience the more experience the better and people who have been through a few relationships and have lived a little have a much better picture of what they actually want in life.

ongarboy

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Not really true as this thread has shown. It can be a big issue for some people. I would have to admit I would be turned off by someone with what I considered to be a high number of previous partners.
There are many traits that different people dislike that others do not have an issue with.

I can appreciate why some people would be put off by that or why it may be an issue but what I'm getting from the thread and particularly from what OP said is that it's ok for themselves to sleep around but not their prospective partner. I've an issue with the double standards of that attitude, not the number of sleeping partners.

Alf Veedersane

Pawwed Rig wrote: »

Not really true as this thread has shown. It can be a big issue for some people. I would have to admit I would be turned off by someone with what I considered to be a high number of previous partners.

I'm asking this as a genuine question but do people really ask early on? Is it something that you would have to know?

I don't mean you, per se.

skallywag

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I'm asking this as a genuine question but do people really ask early on? Is it something that you would have to know?

I think that young people are much more likely to ask / want to know that more mature folk. Personally I would have no interest in knowing any more, though may have acted differently when I was a young pup.