Motors Chat - Round 6

Alanstrainor · 15-09-2014 10:41AM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

It's like the assumption that any e60 (even with the m5 side skirts, quad exhausts, and air intakes on the side above the indicators) is a tarted up 520d.
The sad part is, a quick check on mywheels or similar normally proves that assumption to be correct.

Or again, the amount of RS4 TDIs versus real RS4's on the road. Certainly would be a factor in my decisioning not to buy a real RS4 if I was considering one.

I think I would be the opposite, I would absolutely buy an RS4, and badge it as a TDI. All letters are red, because V8 petrol

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 10:50AM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I think I would be the opposite, I would absolutely buy an RS4, and badge it as a TDI. All letters are red, because V8 petrol

Paint the exhaust tips black and all

I liked the idea (to the point I was considering rebadging my 535d to a 518i when I had it) but I've just been turned off the RS4 so much by all the wannabe's.
I mean I don't think I have seen more than one rs4 in the flesh - and that was at a boards meet! The rest (and you'd see multiples dalily) are RS4 TDI's

Alanstrainor · 15-09-2014 11:13AM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Paint the exhaust tips black and all
I liked the idea (to the point I was considering rebadging my 535d to a 518i when I had it) but I've just been turned off the RS4 so much by all the wannabe's.
I mean I don't think I have seen more than one rs4 in the flesh - and that was at a boards meet! The rest (and you'd see multiples dalily) are RS4 TDI's

I almost hate to say it. But in terms of mods you can do to standard A4's....they don't look half bad! (...form a queue to give me a punch in the face...). Completely over done, and a lot of them are done badly. But the RS4 is a very understated car in itself, when compared to the likes of an M3 of similar vintage.

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 11:16AM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

I almost hate to say it. But in terms of mods you can do to standard A4's....they don't look half bad! (...form a queue to give me a punch in the face...). Completely over done, and a lot of them are done badly. But the RS4 is a very understated car in itself, when compared to the likes of an M3 of similar vintage.

I've no problem with the mods to an a4, like even putting a (functional) dual exhaust system is kindof cool and improves the car imo.
But leave off the RS4 badge. Sacrilege.

YbFocus · 15-09-2014 11:19AM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

I've no problem with the mods to an a4, like even putting a (functional) dual exhaust system is kindof cool and improves the car imo.
But leave off the RS4 badge. Sacrilege.

My take on it also, it's not an rs4 so it doesn't wear the badge. Simple as.

My car was adorned with m badges when i got it, there's not one to be seen now!

Alanstrainor · 15-09-2014 11:21AM

YbFocus wrote: »

My take on it also, it's not an rs4 so it doesn't wear the badge. Simple as.

My car was adorned with m badges when i got it, there's not one to be seen now!

For clarity sake...no badge can be included...ever...on anything other than an RS4! And even then I'd totally debadge (or rebadge) the thing anyway. I'm talking like I'd ever actually own an RS4...unfortunately I just can't see that happening. MX5 with a supercharger is what's on my mind after watching that video in the youtube thread.

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 11:26AM

YbFocus wrote: »

My take on it also, it's not an rs4 so it doesn't wear the badge. Simple as.

My car was adorned with m badges when i got it, there's not one to be seen now!

+1
This irritates me no end.
The amount of m518d and m520d on the road really annoys me. F10 cars with m520d on the back?
Words cannot describe....:mad:
Anyway there's no point, as anyone who knows what the m badge signifies will knwo that there's no such thing as an m520d. And those that don't - wont care either way as they will just look for the BMW sign and the reg plate year.:rolleyes:

YbFocus · 15-09-2014 11:27AM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

For clarity sake...no badge can be included...ever...on anything other than an RS4! And even then I'd totally debadge (or rebadge) the thing anyway. I'm talking like I'd ever actually own an RS4...unfortunately I just can't see that happening. MX5 with a supercharger is what's on my mind after watching that video in the youtube thread.

Scrap the stock engine and get an sr20 in there.
Very light, you can push 300 with little work.
A few grand will see 450 to 500.
I can only imagine what that would be like in an mx5

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 11:32AM

YbFocus wrote: »

Scrap the stock engine and get an sr20 in there.
Very light, you can push 300 with little work.
A few grand will see 450 to 500.
I can only imagine what that would be like in an mx5

having been in a 550bhp near 3ton car at the weekend, I can only imagine what 450-500 would be like in a feather car like the mx5!

YbFocus · 15-09-2014 11:36AM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

having been in a 550bhp near 3ton car at the weekend, I can only imagine what 450-500 would be like in a feather car like the mx5!

Fastest thing i was ever in was a track ps13, rb26 pushing 600bhp.
Would have weighed 1.1 tonnes or so, it was mind blowing!

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 11:40AM

Id say the fastest car I've ever driven was my 535d. However the fastest car I was ever in was a civic owned by a poster on here, over 200bhp/tonne. I would say your track car was a feckin beasht, about 500bhp/tonne, thats insane!!

YbFocus · 15-09-2014 11:42AM

Cleveland Hot Pocket wrote: »

Id say the fastest car I've ever driven was my 535d. However the fastest car I was ever in was a civic owned by a poster on here, over 200bhp/tonne. I would say your track car was a feckin beasht!!

Oh god it wasn't mine man, a former idc pro driver owned it. He got all his work done by a mechanic friend of mine, brought me for a spin in it.
Bloody terrifying. Spinning in fourth at over 100mph in the dry when it came on boost kind of terrifying!

RandomAccess · 15-09-2014 12:03PM

YbFocus wrote: »

My car was adorned with m badges when i got it, there's not one to be seen now!

Saw an X5 M50d yesterday..

You had one job!

bmw-x5-m50d-4x4-2013-badge.jpg?itok=D0hWhPRA

Hard to believe that mish mash of font styles was from the factory.
It's like they left a chav handle the badging and he just went to Halfords!
Looks worse in person.

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 12:05PM

X5 m50d?

[/drool]

They could put whatever badges or colors or whatever on that car and I would still love it. Tri-turbo, enough torque to turn the planet's spin the other way, daysul, sub 5 seconds 0-60.... and in an SUV body! So much want, that words cannot describe.

tossy · 15-09-2014 12:18PM

I'd wager that X5 is a badge warrior, can't believe BMW let the car leave the factory like that. plus on the real M50's on google image the whole badge seems further over.

RandomAccess · 15-09-2014 12:34PM

Yeah the one I included is off a press car so its the real deal, I didn't bother taking a picture yesterday as I was too busy grimacing.

Just shows its bad if people think the real one looks fake.

bear1 · 15-09-2014 01:05PM

Can someone tell me what in the name of fook is wrong with the exhaust on this?

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-octavia-1-9tdi-2005-year-nct07-15-/7680429

Seems like a really bad DIY job

Alanstrainor · 15-09-2014 01:07PM

YbFocus wrote: »

Scrap the stock engine and get an sr20 in there.
Very light, you can push 300 with little work.
A few grand will see 450 to 500.
I can only imagine what that would be like in an mx5

Mother of god...

I mean I talk of the MX5 and turning into a beast...I could really just look at more mods for the e46. But there's no power to be had out of it, which maybe defeats the purpose...

Koni sport shocks on the way though...that should be a nice improvement.

bear1 · 15-09-2014 01:15PM

If the mileage was higher I'd nearly wager it was taxi. Rough as a donkeys arse that yoke.

Alanstrainor · 15-09-2014 01:17PM

That's presuming that mileage is genuine at all....I reckon not....

bear1 · 15-09-2014 01:23PM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

That's presuming that mileage is genuine at all....I reckon not....

Could be a possibility

YbFocus · 15-09-2014 02:33PM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Mother of god...

I mean I talk of the MX5 and turning into a beast...I could really just look at more mods for the e46. But there's no power to be had out of it, which maybe defeats the purpose...

Koni sport shocks on the way though...that should be a nice improvement.

Koni stuff is second to none, great choice man.

To do work on the 325 would be too costly to be effective.
I'd go low compression and supercharge it if you were doing anything.

Johnny_Fontane · 15-09-2014 03:37PM

kind of depressed. bought a vw passat estate 2011 (2.0) and its just not the same as my 2.0 petrol a4.

sure its more economical, but diesel cars suck. THEY SUCK

bear1 · 15-09-2014 03:40PM

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

kind of depressed. bought a vw passat estate 2011 (2.0) and its just not the same as my 2.0 petrol a4.

sure its more economical, but diesel cars suck. THEY SUCK

Remap it

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 04:16PM

Got to love classic insurance.
Changed my policy from a 1995 2.0d Toyota Carina to a 440ci (~7 liter) Chrysler and there wasn't even so much of an admin charge let alone a policy increase! (And it only cost 180 p/a to begin with)

Alanstrainor · 15-09-2014 04:29PM

YbFocus wrote: »

Koni stuff is second to none, great choice man.

To do work on the 325 would be too costly to be effective.
I'd go low compression and supercharge it if you were doing anything.

Power gains are not worth the extreme cost in such mods on the e46. Simply not worth it! Buying an M3 would be more cost effective in every way!

Cleveland Hot Pocket · 15-09-2014 04:38PM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Power gains are not worth the extreme cost in such mods on the e46. Simply not worth it! Buying an M3 would be more cost effective in every way!

Engine swap. 330d and bigger turbo.
That's the way to go :P

YbFocus · 15-09-2014 04:40PM

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Power gains are not worth the extreme cost in such mods on the e46. Simply not worth it! Buying an M3 would be more cost effective in every way!

If you want power then japs and turbos is the only way to go.
Easily accessible, cheap and some great cars.
Plus it's a road well walked so parts are cheap and plenty know the routine.
When building up that s14 we found all the info to do it ourselves online. 8 drift days later and still not a glitch!
The sr, jz and rb series engines love tuning and take mighty trashing! Plenty of jz's running 450 to 500 on standard internals!

CianRyan · 15-09-2014 05:02PM

I know a 350bhp sr20, gear box, exhaust and NISTUNE ECU sitting on a crate eating for a car.
It was offered to me for €2500 as a mates price, if you are thinking of an SRX5 Alan, let me know and I'll put you on to him.

Was planning on buying it but work fell through and I couldn't afford it.

Mycroft H · 15-09-2014 05:08PM

The Saab B204 is another engine capable of taking massive power increases. Some mad lads in sweden have engines pushing 700bhp.

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