Football Championship 2014

tanko · 19-07-2014 07:34PM

Extra time?

Boom__Boom · 19-07-2014 07:35PM

Injury time
Kildare still a point up

dmc17 · 19-07-2014 07:35PM

All over

Frankie Lee · 19-07-2014 07:36PM

Unlucky for Clare, Kildare will get one more game.

Boom__Boom · 19-07-2014 07:36PM

FT Kildare 0-13 Clare 0-12.

glued · 19-07-2014 07:36PM

Joe McQuillan is an awful referee. Shocking that he's still getting games.

Hammer Archer · 19-07-2014 07:40PM

Assuming Dublin win tomorrow, Kildare will play the losers of the Ulster final. Can't see them beating either.

Frankie Lee · 19-07-2014 07:47PM

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Assuming Dublin win tomorrow, Kildare will play the losers of the Ulster final. Can't see them beating either.

Clutching at straws but when Kildare have made 1/4 finals in recent years they usually have a lucky win over relative minnows like Cavan, Limerick and Antrim along the way. I'd rather play Monaghan. Kildare obviously massive underdogs.

Hopefully the minors give a good account of themselves tomorrow as there is an obvious need for new players to come through.

Boom__Boom · 19-07-2014 07:50PM

Of the 12 teams left in the Championship now, 5 are from Division 1, 5 from Division 2, 1 from Division 3 and 1 from Division 4.

Could well be the case when it goes down to 10 next week it could be all 10 from Division 1 and Division 2.

Squatman · 21-07-2014 08:15AM

After this weekends play, my prediction for the all ireland final is the same as last year. Im predicting a Mayo Dublin final, with Dublin to steal it again this year. Donegal failed to impress against monaghan yesterday, and meath failed to show up against dublin. Kerry whopped cork, but had a hard task against Clare in the weeks before. I think mayo will beat donegal, kerry, and cork/sligo, and i expect dublin to beat anyone that have the misfortune of going up against them... including mayo. What are your thoughts?

yop · 21-07-2014 08:19AM

Squatman wrote: »

After this weekends play, my prediction for the all ireland final is the same as last year. Im predicting a Mayo Dublin final, with Dublin to steal it again this year. Donegal failed to impress against monaghan yesterday, and meath failed to show up against dublin. Kerry whopped cork, but had a hard task against Clare in the weeks before. I think mayo will beat donegal, kerry, and cork/sligo, and i expect dublin to beat anyone that have the misfortune of going up against them... including mayo. What are your thoughts?

Donegal aren't on Mayos side of the draw I think? Mayo will be playing either Cork or Sligo and then Kerry if they come through.

Donegal impressed plenty yesterday, without McFadden and Murphy they were still well ahead of Monaghan.

Moneymaker · 21-07-2014 08:24AM

Squatman wrote: »

After this weekends play, my prediction for the all ireland final is the same as last year. Im predicting a Mayo Dublin final, with Dublin to steal it again this year. Donegal failed to impress against monaghan yesterday, and meath failed to show up against dublin. Kerry whopped cork, but had a hard task against Clare in the weeks before. I think mayo will beat donegal, kerry, and cork/sligo, and i expect dublin to beat anyone that have the misfortune of going up against them... including mayo. What are your thoughts?

Steal it?

Prop Joe · 21-07-2014 08:54AM

1/4 finals are looking like

Cork v Mayo
Kerry v Galway

Dublin v Monaghan
Donegal v Armagh

keane2097 · 21-07-2014 09:14AM

Two very tough tests for Dublin before they would get to a final. It'll be a well won All Ireland for whoever emerges at this stage. Would love to see Dublin really stretched, just to see how good they can be.

21-07-2014 09:21AM

Prop Joe wrote: »

1/4 finals are looking like

Cork v Mayo
Kerry v Galway

Dublin v Monaghan
Donegal v Armagh

Not sure how people are assuming a Cork win v Sligo.

Cork are a shambles, they scraped past Tipp, they were destroyed by Kerry, nothing they have done points to their continued participation in the championship.

Even though Sligo have only beaten Wicklow and Limerick they have some momentum.

Unless Cork have a serious look at themselves and decide that they want to be involved , for another round at least, I think this one will be going the way of Sligo.

Moneymaker · 21-07-2014 09:23AM

Galway beating Tipp isn't exactly a gimme either.

Squatman · 21-07-2014 09:25AM

Moneymaker wrote: »

Steal it?

I knew someone would pick up on that.
But in all honesty, the do seem like the best team this year.

even without diarmuid Suarez connolly

Squatman · 21-07-2014 09:26AM

yop wrote: »

Donegal aren't on Mayos side of the draw I think? Mayo will be playing either Cork or Sligo and then Kerry if they come through.

Donegal impressed plenty yesterday, without McFadden and Murphy they were still well ahead of Monaghan.

Oh righteo, i didnt know that, i though it was only the next round that was confirmed yet. Should be a very interesting development so. Mayo very rarely have beaten Kerry, but i think they have the skill to put them away this year.

keane2097 · 21-07-2014 09:41AM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Not sure how people are assuming a Cork win v Sligo.

Cork are a shambles, they scraped past Tipp, they were destroyed by Kerry, nothing they have done points to their continued participation in the championship.

Even though Sligo have only beaten Wicklow and Limerick they have some momentum.

Unless Cork have a serious look at themselves and decide that they want to be involved , for another round at least, I think this one will be going the way of Sligo.

I would submit that Sligo's form this year is worse than Cork's. Lost four out of seven in Division 3, beaten pretty comfortably by a Galway team rated no better than Tipp by the bookies before limping past Wicklow and Limerick.

You can call Cork a shambles based on form if you insist I suppose, but implying Sligo's form is any major encouragement seems like using the same metric the opposite way around for two teams based on the conclusion you had already reached.

21-07-2014 09:41AM

keane2097 wrote: »

Two very tough tests for Dublin before they would get to a final. It'll be a well won All Ireland for whoever emerges at this stage. Would love to see Dublin really stretched, just to see how good they can be.

Yes a couple of games v nordies will be interesting for Dublin.

They have meet with pretty tame opposition thus far.

Moneymaker · 21-07-2014 09:43AM

Dublin's playstyle is tailored to counter a mass defence though.

Fast paced movement, good support play and accurate kick passing.

And we are well capable of kicking scores from range too.

Kerry and Mayo are better equipped to beat Dublin then Donegal or Monaghan imo.

yop · 21-07-2014 09:56AM

Squatman wrote: »

even without diarmuid Suarez connolly

What are you on about?

Al Monds · 21-07-2014 10:00AM

The following is a generalisation.

'Managers focus too much on substituting forwards.'

I have frequently noticed that forwards are substituted more often than defenders.
I did a poll of games this weekend which confirms my suspicion.

Def Mid For

Donegal 1 1 4
Monaghan 1 1 3
Dublin 1 2 3
Meath 2 1 3
Armagh 1 4
Roscommon 1 4
Kildare 2 2 2
Clare 2 1 3
Wexford 2 1 2
Waterford 2 3

Total 15 9 31

Based on statistics alone I think managers need to rethink their substitution tactics.

Of course I’m biased.

I was once a corner forward and the manager/captain always took me off at half time. In a county match the half time score was .02 v .02. Three of the points came from frees. I scored the only point from play. Sure enough I was taken off at half time.

I was fit to fold a fiddle as I walked off. I’m still mad even after 40 years.

Shortly after, the captain/manager saw me play a rugby match. (The ban had just been lifted a few years before.) All GAA players played full back or wing as catching the ball was easy for us. The rugby crowd saw it as a mysterious skill.

In my next GAA match I was corner back, didn’t get a ball the whole game and had my first 60 minute match.

Al Monds · 21-07-2014 10:10AM

The following is a generalisation.

'Managers focus too much on substituting forwards.'

I have frequently noticed that forwards are substituted more often than defenders.
I did a poll of games this weekend which confirms my suspicion.

Def Mid For

Don 1 1 4
Mon 1 1 3
Dub 1 2 3
Mea 2 1 3
Arm 1 4
Ros 1 4
Kld 2 2 2
Cla 2 1 3
Wex 2 1 2
Wat 2 3

Tot 15 9 31

Based on statistics alone I think managers need to rethink their substitution tactics.
Surely it lacks balance?

Of course I’m biased.

I was once a corner forward and the manager/captain always took me off at half time. In a county match the half time score was .02 v .02. Three of the points came from frees. I scored the only point from play. Sure enough I was taken off at half time.

I was fit to fold a fiddle as I walked off. I’m still mad even after 40 years.

Shortly after, the captain/manager saw me play a rugby match. (The ban had just been lifted a few years before.) All GAA players played full back or wing as catching the ball was easy for us. The rugby crowd saw it as a mysterious skill.

In my next GAA match I was corner back, didn’t get a ball the whole game and had my first 60 minute match.

keane2097 · 21-07-2014 10:13AM

Moneymaker wrote: »

Dublin's playstyle is tailored to counter a mass defence though.

Fast paced movement, good support play and accurate kick passing.

And we are well capable of kicking scores from range too.

Kerry and Mayo are better equipped to beat Dublin then Donegal or Monaghan imo.

I do think you're right but still they've yet to actually come up against a really well functioning one with this new style at the business end. I agree they're designed to overcome it, but I still look forward to seeing it happen!

Redsoxfan · 21-07-2014 10:37AM

Prop Joe wrote: »

1/4 finals are looking like

Cork v Mayo
Kerry v Galway

Dublin v Monaghan
Donegal v Armagh

The Sunday Game seemed to be sure that Donegal would play the winner of Armagh/Meath - why is this? I would have thought that if Kildare beat Monaghan, we could draw Kildare, assuming of course that Armagh beat Meath (Donegal can't be drawn against Monaghan, Dublin can't be drawn against Meath)

ixus · 21-07-2014 10:52AM

If Dublin were to play Donegal/Monaghan, I could see either allowing Dublin to take short kickouts.

Simply, dropping 13/14 behind their own 65 as soon as the ball goes dead on the Dublin end. It would force Dublin to try and carry the ball into the the defense. Opposition counter from turn over.

intellectual dosser · 21-07-2014 11:10AM

Dublin v Monaghan would be a great spectacle IMO, I'd be interested to see how Dublin would handle Monaghan's 'tough' approach.

Someone tell the Dublin kit man to bring plenty of spare jerseys!

keane2097 · 21-07-2014 11:15AM

intellectual dosser wrote: »

Dublin v Monaghan would be a great spectacle IMO, I'd be interested to see how Dublin would handle Monaghan's 'tough' approach.

Someone tell the Dublin kit man to bring plenty of spare jerseys!

In fairness I think if it came to a scrap Dublin would beat everyone on that front as well!

Dubliner28 · 21-07-2014 11:16AM

Redsoxfan wrote: »

The Sunday Game seemed to be sure that Donegal would play the winner of Armagh/Meath - why is this? I would have thought that if Kildare beat Monaghan, we could draw Kildare, assuming of course that Armagh beat Meath (Donegal can't be drawn against Monaghan, Dublin can't be drawn against Meath)

If Kildare and Armagh both win its an open draw. If one of either Monaghan/Meath win they cannot play the team that beats them in the final. The are assuming Monaghan will be Kildare.

Fully agree that Dublin's playstyle is tailored to counter a mass defence though. Half forwards can shoot for 45 half backs coming forward. Dublin attack and defend as a team.
I would love to see how a defence approach would catch Dublin on the counter if ball was turned over. Serious pace in the Dublin team.
Agree can only see Kerry or Donegal troubling Dublin

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