Malaysia Airlines plane shot down in Ukraine near Russian border[Mod warning post#193

Peregrine · 17-07-2014 4:37pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

And why was it flying low enough to even make a shoot down possible.

It was cruising at 33,000ft.

Calina wrote: »

10000 is not especially low for an airport of that type that far into its journey.

Autocorrect?

Jawgap · 17-07-2014 4:38pm

RIAN (another Russian News Agency) reporting it as a shoot down.

Quoting the separatists who are saying they thought it was a Ukrainian transport.

jamo2oo9 · 17-07-2014 4:39pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Why shoot it down though? It was going from Amsterdam to Malaysia. What has that got to do with Russia/Ukraine. And why was it flying low enough to even make a shoot down possible.

It was cruising at 33,000ft. That's not low. That's pretty much the norm for long haul flights at the early stages of the flight

Jack1985 · 17-07-2014 4:39pm

thebannerboy wrote: »

Reuters have just confirmed there is burning debris and bodies scattered on the ground at the crash site.

And you have sick delinquents posting pictures of bodies on twitter, what the f*ck is wrong with people.

thebannerboy · 17-07-2014 4:40pm

popepaisley1 wrote: »

this is very bad for palestine. this story is going to dominate the headlines and, with most peoples attention diverted, leave israel to do whatever it wants

Are you aware that 14 armed members of Hamas were arrested in Israel this morning one mile from a kids school? They had tunnelled under the border overnight.

Lapin · 17-07-2014 4:40pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I was due to be in that plane but changed to Wednesdays flight I'm devastated at how close to death I came

It's impossible for anyone to comprehend how shaken you must feel right now.

Get talking to the people you love the most and take any support you need to get your head around this.

Hugs from everyone here Stincker.

fr336 · 17-07-2014 4:40pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

And you have sick delinquents posting pictures of bodies on twitter, what the f*ck is wrong with people.

There should be laws on that kind of **** man.

ProfessorPlum · 17-07-2014 4:41pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Why shoot it down though? It was going from Amsterdam to Malaysia. What has that got to do with Russia/Ukraine. And why was it flying low enough to even make a shoot down possible.

Trigger happy fool involved in a biggest dick competition. It was flying at a normal cruising altitude on it's filed flight path. Unless it was off course (unlikely), not difficult to verify it as civilian.

bluemartin · 17-07-2014 4:41pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I was due to be in that plane but changed to Wednesdays flight I'm devastated at how close to death I came

God this is so hard on you, take comfort that it wasn't your time, you were not meant to go so soon. Thank God and god bless you on your journey through life.

Stinicker · 17-07-2014 4:42pm

I'm devastated, this was me except something made me pay a few more euros to go for Wednesdays flight instead of Thursdays. I never had such a close call with death, I was trembling at AMS before boarding and the gate agent even asked me if I was ok.

Calina · 17-07-2014 4:44pm

Nimr wrote: »

Autocorrect?

Pure typo.

stevedublin · 17-07-2014 4:44pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

On a flight in an hour, absolute condolences to all the staff at MAS they have been through the worst any airline could go through. RIP to all of those board, seriously hope the ****ers who are responsible endure the most painful death. Scum.

There is a war going on in the area, I really doubt it was a deliberate action.

Lapin · 17-07-2014 4:45pm

kilkenny31 wrote: »

There will more then likely be Irish passengers on board. Very popular flight for people flying to Australia. Flew this route myself.

The Dept of Foreign Affairs have siad there were no Irish passengers on board.

RTÉ.

carpejugulum · 17-07-2014 4:46pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Why shoot it down though? It was going from Amsterdam to Malaysia. What has that got to do with Russia/Ukraine. And why was it flying low enough to even make a shoot down possible.

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Ukraine Reporter ‏@StateOfUkraine

#Russia'n cmdr Strelkov commented on downed #MH17 (thinking it was Ukrainian): "We warned - do not fly in our skies"

Jack1985 · 17-07-2014 4:46pm

stevedublin wrote: »

There is a war going on in the area, I really doubt it was a deliberate action.

Yeah because if it was an accident it was somehow excusable? ****ers who probably done it are trigger happy.

afatbollix · 17-07-2014 4:46pm

Lapin · 17-07-2014 4:46pm

popepaisley1 wrote: »

this is very bad for palestine. this story is going to dominate the headlines and, with most peoples attention diverted, leave israel to do whatever it wants

One of the most idiotic post I have ever read on Boards.ie.

Peregrine · 17-07-2014 4:47pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I'm devastated, this was me except something made me pay a few more euros to go for Wednesdays flight instead of Thursdays. I never had such a close call with death, I was trembling at AMS before boarding and the gate agent even asked me if I was ok.

Relax and be glad that it's not your time to go. Have a pint on me.

Calina wrote: »

Pure typo.

Well, I can assure you that neither AMS nor KUL was flying at 33,000ft

bluemartin · 17-07-2014 4:47pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I'm devastated, this was me except something made me pay a few more euros to go for Wednesdays flight instead of Thursdays. I never had such a close call with death, I was trembling at AMS before boarding and the gate agent even asked me if I was ok.

You will go on to do great things in life, spend time with love ones, you had a premonition that something was going to go wrong and you were stopped from boarding.

afatbollix · 17-07-2014 4:48pm

Looks like it broke up in mid air

cml387 · 17-07-2014 4:48pm

Russia Today, (in a rather hysterical on the ground report) are saying that Ukraine closed the airspace around Donetsk and that the aircraft should not have been there.

I find this impossible to believe?

ctrl-alt-delete · 17-07-2014 4:51pm

Terrible incident, even without the possibility of it being shot down.

R.I.P. to all those who have perished.

Maybe the Malaysian livery having the Russian colours might have been a factor. Just hearing it is a rebel controlled area and crash investigators might not get full access.

Sully · 17-07-2014 4:51pm

cml387 wrote: »

Russia Today, (in a rather hysterical on the ground report) are saying that Ukraine closed the airspace around Donetsk and that the aircraft should not have been there.

I find this impossible to believe?

Media reports saying the US told it's airlines not to fly over the area.

Saw the pictures on twitter. While it hasn't directly impacted me, I can't help but feel sick in my stomach and upset at the people who lost their lives today. Caught completely unaware mid-air. Heartbeaking.

May they Rest in Peace. God rest their soul and look after their families.

highlydebased · 17-07-2014 4:52pm

Mod note: The twitter link below contains extremely graphic pictures, do not click on the link if you're expecting pics of broken fuselage etc. https://twitter.com/MatevzNovak

Many pictures on that twitter account

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brandon_flowers · 17-07-2014 4:52pm

RT is not to be believed at the best of times.

RIP to those on board and condolences to families and friends. I guess that this will be the end for MH, the corporate raiders on the stock exchange will bury them.

popepaisley1 · 17-07-2014 4:52pm

no i was not aware of this. were they going to take over the school and shoot all the kids? is that what you are saying? is this a fact or are you just jumping to some crazy conclusion?

the only thing i am aware of is that 4 palestinian kids were murdered on a beach yesterday

thebannerboy wrote: »

Are you aware that 14 armed members of Hamas were arrested in Israel this morning one mile from a kids school? They had tunnelled under the border overnight.

Lapin · 17-07-2014 4:53pm

fr336 wrote: »

I'm worried about what Obama might say if there were US citizens on board! If it was Bush they'd have Russia surrounded already. Bad times...

No they wouldn't.

The Jim Corrisms that emerge within an hour of something like this happening really are astonishing.

Obviously what happened today a huge incident of international signifigance, but it's never going to result in a US assault on Russia regardless of who is in the Oval Office.

Keep some perspective here.

tricky D · 17-07-2014 4:54pm

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Why shoot it down though? It was going from Amsterdam to Malaysia. What has that got to do with Russia/Ukraine. And why was it flying low enough to even make a shoot down possible.

Why? Fog of war or a screw up.

33k is a normal altitude and well within the Buk's range/altitude capabilities.

_Puma_ · 17-07-2014 4:54pm

Had something come up on my twitter feed that I don't want to see again, it has actually made me sick to my stomach just sitting here...RIP

fr336 · 17-07-2014 4:54pm

Lapin wrote: »

No they wouldn't.

The Jim Corrisms that emerge within an hour of something like this happening really are astonishing.

USA good...Russia evil...with you now!

Stinicker · 17-07-2014 4:55pm

I'm just cold now looking at the images. At Amsterdam on Wednesday I observed the crew getting heavily security checked but they were in good spirits and had positive body language, their was an aura of despair in KL when I arrived there This morning however.

Rip to MH370 and MH17 and all those lost souls

vicwatson · 17-07-2014 4:55pm

I dunno if I like these pictures of parts of the plane being posted online, it's a damn graveyard FFS.

Some sicko people, maybe its just me that doesn't like it but I think if anyone has a brain they might realise that it's innappropriate

Jack1985 · 17-07-2014 4:56pm

All the aviation experts are out on Sky News I see, apparently we'll never know what happened - Just 3 hrs 40 minutes after the accident. Who are these morons.

Peregrine · 17-07-2014 4:57pm

popepaisley1 wrote: »

no i was not aware of this. were they going to take over the school and shoot all the kids? is that what you are saying? is this a fact or are you just jumping to some crazy conclusion?

the only thing i am aware of is that 4 palestinian kids were murdered on a beach yesterday

Jack1985 · 17-07-2014 4:57pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I'm just cold now looking at the images. At Amsterdam on Wednesday I observed the crew getting heavily security checked but they were in good spirits and had positive body language, their was an aura of despair in KL when I arrived there This morning however.

Rip to MH370 and MH17 and all those lost souls

Jesus christ just seen your post. Thank god you are ok, did you miss the flight?

vicwatson · 17-07-2014 4:57pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I'm just cold now looking at the images. At Amsterdam on Wednesday I observed the crew getting heavily security checked but they were in good spirits and had positive body language, their was an aura of despair in KL when I arrived there This morning however.

Rip to MH370 and MH17 and all those lost souls

You side stepped a big one there man, good to have you with us

Harry Palmr · 17-07-2014 4:59pm

Does anyone have a live tracker site that covers this area?

Penny Tration · 17-07-2014 4:59pm

Stinicker, upset as you are, take comfort that following your gut saved your life. Never forget to trust your gut at all times. Take care of yourself, mate.

vicwatson · 17-07-2014 5:00pm

Lufthansa confirms it will be avoiding the region

vicwatson · 17-07-2014 5:01pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

Jesus christ just seen your post. Thank god you are ok, did you miss the flight?

As he said in his post he paid extra quids to go a day earlier. He is now in the Phillippines if I'm not mistaken

Andy-Pandy · 17-07-2014 5:03pm

If it was flying at 33000 it must take some serious weaponry to take it out. RIP

Peregrine · 17-07-2014 5:03pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

Jesus christ just seen your post. Thank god you are ok, did you miss the flight?

He was supposed to on today's flight but changed it to Wednesday(yesterday). He's in the Phillipines now.

fr336 · 17-07-2014 5:04pm

green_screen wrote: »

Stinicker, upset as you are, take comfort that following your gut saved your life. Never forget to trust your gut at all times. Take care of yourself, mate.

Ain't this the truth. Never ever "Ah it'll be ok" or influenced by others.

Wibbs · 17-07-2014 5:05pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I'm devastated, this was me except something made me pay a few more euros to go for Wednesdays flight instead of Thursdays. I never had such a close call with death, I was trembling at AMS before boarding and the gate agent even asked me if I was ok.

Your story has hit home for me. You really never know. I'm so glad you're OK. No doubt you're very shaken but I hope you get some peace from talking to relatives and friends.

FHB · 17-07-2014 5:06pm

Although I haven't seen them myself, I've heard about some of the pictures online now. This type of stuff really annoys me. Do some people just not have any respect for the dead or their families?

Just thinking about how these people just this morning were going about their lives like anyone else here. Now there are these types of photos of them on the internet. It sickens me.

TheQueen · 17-07-2014 5:07pm

Stinicker wrote: »

I'm devastated, this was me except something made me pay a few more euros to go for Wednesdays flight instead of Thursdays. I never had such a close call with death, I was trembling at AMS before boarding and the gate agent even asked me if I was ok.

Have you spoken to your family? You must be very shook up.

fr336 · 17-07-2014 5:07pm

FHB wrote: »

Although I haven't seen them myself, I've heard about some of the pictures online now. This type of stuff really annoys me. Do some people just not have any respect for the dead or their families?

Just thinking about how these people just this morning were going about their lives like anyone else here. Now there are these types of photos of them on the internet. It sickens me.

Too many people lead nothing lives and think we're all part of one big society together...individuals don't matter in a media obsessed world.

GottaGetGatt · 17-07-2014 5:09pm

Jawgap wrote: »

Doubt they'll say / do much - everyone will be 'happy' to embrace the separatist story.......

From the Voice of Russia (29 June)

Donetsk militia takes control of Ukrainian anti-air installation

The self-defense forces of Donetsk People’s Republic seized control of a Ukrainian anti-air military installation, RIA Novosti reports.

Proof that it was Militia so

EoghanIRL · 17-07-2014 5:10pm

Ok after seeing crash site pictures I see why they aren't showing footage in the news .

vicwatson · 17-07-2014 5:11pm

Air France have confirmed they will be avoiding the airspace

Malaysia Airlines plane shot down in Ukraine near Russian border[Mod warning post#193

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