Malaysia Airlines plane shot down in Ukraine near Russian border[Mod warning post#193

keno-daytrader

11:04 (UA) Malaysia passenger aircraft has crashed near the Russia border with Ukraine; flight was from Amsterdamn to Kuala Lumpur - Russia press

11:04 (UA) Malaysia passenger aircraft (Boeing 777) has crashed (other reports indicate it was 'shot down') near the Russia border with Ukraine; flight was from Amsterdamn to Kuala Lumpur - Russia press - Said to have been carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew members. - Said to have disappeared from radar while traveling at 30K feet (cruising altitude).

Simon Gruber Says

Link?

neilthefunkeone

Sky have it too..

http://news.sky.com/story/1302864/malaysian-passenger-plane-crashes-in-ukraine

Simon Gruber Says

Would it be this flight? MH17, another 777

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh17/

Jawgap

Talk of it being a shoot down.....

http://espreso.tv/news/2014/07/17/litak_boyinh_777_malaziyskykh_avialiniy_vpav_v_rayoni_mista_shakhtarsk_doneckoyi_oblasti

(click the translate button)

from twitter....
Euromaidan PR ‏@EuromaidanPR 5m
BREAKING Boing777 Of #Malaysian Airlines Shot Down near #Shakhtersk, #Donetsk oblast http://youtu.be/dTCulEzHQh4 | EMPR Video #Ukraine

afatbollix

BBC saying its that flight

stevedublin

What the h€!! was a passenger aircraft flying over an active war zone?
it could have been mistaken for a spy plane and shot down.

jamo2oo9

stevedublin wrote: »

What the h€!! was a passenger aircraft flying over an active war zone?
it could have been mistaken for a spy plane and shot down.

It's not an active war zone. Only disputes with military and rebel of Ukraine. Russia has stood down on their presence on the border I believe.

If it was shot down, there will be serious repercussions to the nation involved in shooting it down

thebannerboy

It was in an international air corridor but it was also in the exact same spot where a Ukraine Air Force jet was shot down earlier today.

knucklehead6

I'd say Boeing and Malaysian Airways are PRAYING it was a shoot down

windowspotter

Thoughts with those onboard although it doesn't sound good

suasdaguna2

This is getting real scary....2 777s in a year off the Malaysian inventory. Can't see the airlines viability no matter the reason going forward. God rest the passengers souls.

Jack1985

Malaysian Airlines have confirmed the aircraft is down, 295 people on board - B772 from AMS TO KUL (9M-MRD). This is extremely worrying, same aircraft - 4 months later. Should be pointed out aircraft was in a potential warzone. RIP.

jamo2oo9

thebannerboy wrote: »

It was in an international air corridor but it was also in the exact same spot where a Ukraine Air Force jet was shot down earlier today.

First I've heard of that! Even nothing on RTE News

christy c

Holy crap, another Malaysian 777?

Jack1985

Interfax saying the aircraft was shot down at an altitude of 10km above Ukraine

Meglamonia

On sky now it was shot down.

bluemartin

A spokesman for Malaysian Airlines has confirmed "an incident" on board one of its flights and is expected to release a statement shortly.



I cant post links as I am a new user but it is on sky news

bluemartin

Dreadful altogether, my heart goes out to all those on board. It was on its way from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumper.

Aphex

Horrible news. RIP to the innocent souls on board.

Tabnabs

Unconfirmed footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTCulEzHQh4

keno-daytrader

11:34 (UR) Ukraine Govt now issuing commentary on the airliner crash; claim 'terrorists' separatists downed the Boeing jet near the border with Russia - press

TheQueen

Horrible horrible news. RIP.

Peregrine

Not sure if this is legit..can't even see it properly on my phone so apologies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp29qv6drTY

My thoughts are with the families of those on board.

2 777 losses so close to each other can't be good for Malaysian's image.

Jack1985

Expect diversion of overflying aircraft after this, not a chance will anybody risk flying over Ukraine

BobbyPropane

Jesus........ if that video is legitimate it doesn't look good. Madness

thebannerboy

jamo2oo9 wrote: »

First I've heard of that! Even nothing on RTE News

Which the air corridor part or the air force jet shot down? Actually two Ukraine planes shot down this week in the same spot.

Sully

Devastating news. Awful sad on the families of those on the plane. Really really hope there are survivors.

knucklehead6

Sully wrote: »

Devastating news. Awful sad on the families of those on the plane. Really really hope there are survivors.

doubtful if it was at the altitude reported by jack

who_me

Thoughts are with those onboard and their families.

Hard to know what to think though, if it's another Malaysian Air plane would set off a lot of alarm bells. The fact that another plane was shot down earlier the same day hints towards something entirely different. IF it was shot down (as has been reported) who knows how much further that could escalate.

Aerohead

My God not again surely they should not have ben flying a commercial aircraft over a war zone. RIP Folks killed for no reason what so ever :mad:

TimeToShine

Good lord, isn't that a route to Australia/NZ via Kuala Lumpur?

Jesus

edit: no survivors according to the minister in Ukraine. RIP

Sully

knucklehead6 wrote: »

doubtful if it was at the altitude reported by jack

We can only hope and pray tbh. Very sad news and a huge below to the Airline.

thebannerboy

Jack1985 wrote: »

Interfax saying the aircraft was shot down at an altitude of 10km above Ukraine

10,000m

FAILSAFE 00

Its being reported and its not yet 100% confirmed that a Buk Missile was used and that the plane was in Ukraine air space when contact with the aircraft was lost.

Buk

DieselPowered

Thats all risky aispace and has been NOTAM'd (Notice to Airmen) for the last couple of months, this is public info....

POTENTIALLY HAZARDOUS SITUATION UKRAINE AIRSPACE, PARTICULARLY OVER
CRIMEA, THE BLACK SEA, AND THE SEA OF AZOV.

DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICTING AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC)
INSTRUCTIONS FROM UKRAINIAN AND RUSSIAN AUTHORITIES AND FOR THE
RELATED POTENTIAL MISIDENTIFICATION OF CIVIL AIRCRAFT, IRISH
AIRCRAFT OPERATORS ARE STRONGLY ADVISED TO AVOID, UNTIL FURTHER
NOTICE,

THE AIRSPACE OVER CRIMEA, THE BLACK SEA, AND THE SEA OF
AZOV, WITHIN THE FOLLOWING LATERAL LIMITS:
454500N 0345800E-460900N 0360000E-460000N 0370000E-452700N 0364100E-
452242N 0364100E-451824N 0363524E-451442N 0363542E-451218N 0363200E-
450418N 0363418E-445600N 0363700E-443100N 0364000E-424400N 0361600E-
424700N 0340000E-424800N 0304500E-434100N 0303200E-441500N 0302400E-
444600N 0300900E-455400N 0322500E-454900N 0324700E-455400N 0330600E-
455600N 0332700E-455900N 0332900E-THEN ALONG THE CRIMEA BORDER TO
454500N 0345800E.

UNILATERAL ACTION TO ESTABLISH A NEW SIMFEROPOL (URFV) FIR THAT
INCLUDES BOTH UKRAINIAN SOVEREIGN AIRSPACE OVER THE CRIMEAN
PENINSULA AND INTERNATIONAL HIGH SEAS AIRSPACE MANAGED BY UKRAINE
CONTRADICTS INTERNATIONAL LAW AND ICAO ANNEX 11 STANDARDS.

UKRAINE NOTAM A0528/14, PUBLISHED 28 MAR 20:14 2014, REJECTS NOTAM
A0907/14 PUBLISHED BY THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION. UKRAINE CONTINUES TO
PROVIDE AIR TRAFFIC SERVICES (ATS) IN THE AIRSPACE DESCRIBED IN THE
PARAGRAPH ABOVE AND RUSSIA IS ALSO PROVIDING ATS IN THAT AIRSPACE.
FURTHERMORE, UKRAINE NOTAM A0520/14, PUBLISHED 28 MAR 16:59 2014,
CREATES A PROHIBITED AREA OVER THE CRIMEAN PENINSULA FOR OPERATIONS
BELOW FL290, AND UKRAINE NOTAMS A0524/14 AND A0569/14 CLOSE VARIOUS
ATS ROUTE SEGMENTS.

RUSSIAN FEDERATION NOTAM A0912/14 REJECTS AND
DIRECTLY CONFLICTS WITH UKRAINE NOTAMS A0520/14 AND A0524/14.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR CIVIL AIRCRAFT TO RECEIVE
CONFUSING AND CONFLICTING ATC INSTRUCTIONS WHILE OPERATING IN THE
DISPUTED AIRSPACE.

OPERATIONS ARE NORMAL IN ALL OTHER UKRAINE FIRS.

HOWEVER, IRISH OPERATORS FLYING INTO, OUT OF, OR WITHIN LVOV (UKLV),
KYIV (UKBV), DNEPTROPETROVSK (UKDV), AND ODESSA (UKOV) FIRS, AS WELL
AS AIRSPACE IN SIMFEROPOL (UKFV) FIR THAT IS OUTSIDE THE LATERAL Page 6 of 16
LIMITS OF THE AIRSPACE OVER CRIMEA, THE BLACK SEA, THE SEA OF AZOV
DESCRIBED IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THIS NOTAM, SHOULD REVIEW
CURRENT SECURITY/THREAT INFORMATION AND NOTAMS.

THE CONTENT OF THIS NOTAM SAFETY WILL BE RE-EVALUATED BY 30 JUN 2014.
FROM: 01 JUL 2014 08:45 TO: 01 AUG 2014 00:01

highlydebased

Flightradar24 says it was at FL330 (33000ft)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=742258872480205&set=a.116008071771958.7699.111607872211978&type=1&theater

Effects

Sully wrote: »

Devastating news. Awful sad on the families of those on the plane. Really really hope there are survivors.

Almost as much chance of it not being shot down to be honest.

Tabnabs

A Ukrainian interior ministry official, Anton Geraschenko, says that all 295 people aboard have died.

Mr Geraschenko has written on his Facebook page that the plane was flying at an altitude of 10,000 meters (33,000 feet) when it was hit Thursday by a missile fired from a Buk launcher.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article4150129.ece

Dublin Red Devil

A MALAYSIAN Airlines passenger plane with 295 people has crashed in Ukraine today after being reportedly shot down by Russian authorities.



The Boeing 777 went down near the Russian border according to an aviation industry source.

According to the Interfax News Agency flight MH17 was travelling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it was downed. It is not clear if there have been any fatalities.

The news agency claimed that the Malaysian Airlines passenger plane was shot down by Russian authorities but that has yet to be confirmed.

A Malaysia Airlines official has confirmed the plane has crashed and they are due to make a statement shortly.

The company also tweeted to say that they lost contact with MH17 after it took off from Amsterdam and its last known location was over Ukrainian airspace.

They posted on Twitter: "Malaysia Airlines has lost contact of MH17 from Amsterdam. The last known position was over Ukrainian airspace. More details to follow."

Cookiemunster

thebannerboy wrote: »

10,000m

Last time I checked 10Km = 10,000m.

DOCARCH

Just heard this on the news....just that contact had been lost with ac....Holy Moly! :eek:

gordongekko

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Last time I checked 10Km = 10,000m.

Delete

thebannerboy

What's going to happen the world if Al Queda or ISIS ever get there hands on weapons like these? We would be like ducks in a barrel up there.

crosstownk

There's already a thread on this disaster.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057251233

Simon Gruber Says

gordongekko wrote: »

Check again

1km = 1000m so 10km is 10,000m

ssaye2

http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17/history/20140717/1000Z/EHAM/WMKK/tracklog

String

Crazy.. Why were they flying low over a warzone?

DOCARCH

Holy bloody Moly! :eek:

What I have heard now is that Russian separists claimed (earlier) that they had shot down a Ukrainian military ac.

Dublin Red Devil

Shooting down a major passenger jet is huge. This will blow up all over international news media.

fr336

Dublin Red Devil wrote: »

Shooting down a major passenger jet is huge. This will blow up all over international news media.

I think it could do more than that :eek: This could be very bad.... for now my thoughts are with the passengers and their families