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Gerry Conlon has died

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  • #32
    Knock Off Nigel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Knock Off Nigel


    RIP Mr Conlon, this man was put through unimaginable torture all because he was an Irish man in the wrong place at the wrong time.


  • #33
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    pO1Neil wrote: »
    The Balcombe Street gang admitted it was the first bombing they did.

    I know. But we can't mention that here according to some tetchy people.
    egghead. wrote: »
    Is this thread about ira atrocities?

    Never pass up the opportunity.


  • #34
    Wishiwasa Littlebitaller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,337 ✭✭✭Wishiwasa Littlebitaller


    kneemos wrote: »
    Is the guy not entitled to an opinion misguided or not.The place is full of different viewpoints.

    People are only "entitled" to have informed opinions and especially so when discussing the recently deceased.


  • #35
    Fr. Ned
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Fr. Ned


    R.I.P Gerry Conlon.

    The British judiciary should be ashamed.


  • #36
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Lapin wrote: »
    This didn't take long.

    DO NOT FEED.
    I opened the thread thinking "At least nobody would be socio enough to make whataboutery comments to this thread" - ah well, my foolishness.
    And of course there can ****ing be "smoke without fire".
    kneemos wrote: »
    Is the guy not entitled to an opinion misguided or not.The place is full of different viewpoints.
    Yeh that's true - I think it's fair that they post a detailed analysis of their outlook rather than a one-liner that just looks like being inflammatory for the sake of it. I look forward to reading this analysis.


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  • #37
    Fiolina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭Fiolina


    In a statement issued through his lawyer Gareth Peirce, Mr Conlon's family said: "He brought life, love, intelligence, wit and strength to our family through its darkest hours.
    "He helped us to survive what we were not meant to survive.
    "We recognise that what he achieved by fighting for justice for us had a far, far greater importance - it forced the world's closed eyes to be opened to injustice; it forced unimaginable wickedness to be acknowledged; we believe it changed the course of history.
    "We thank him for his life and we thank all his many friends for their love."


  • #38
    kneemos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,436 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Magaggie wrote: »
    I opened the thread thinking "At least nobody would be socio enough to make whataboutery comments to this thread" - ah well, my foolishness.
    And of course there can ****ing be "smoke without fire".

    Yeh that's true - I think it's fair that they post a detailed analysis of their outlook rather than a one-liner that just looks like being inflammatory for the sake of it. I look forward to reading this analysis.

    He can't now can he?


  • #39
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    kneemos wrote: »
    He can't now can he?
    They're not forum-banned - I'm sure if they write this analysis, the moderators will be ok with it and realise they weren't trying to inflame, oh no.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 53,068 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mod

    kneemos banned, move on please.


  • #41
    pO1Neil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 354 ✭✭pO1Neil


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEV9zQill6Y


    What a great, great guy, just wish he had a few more years left in him, guess it wasn't to be.


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  • #42
    getzls
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

    I know that sounds strange.
    IRA. And truth.


  • #43
    Knock Off Nigel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Knock Off Nigel


    getzls wrote: »
    Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

    I know that sounds strange.
    IRA. And truth.

    The British government agencies and armed forces have far more blood on their hands and will never be brought to justice.

    I know that sounds strange.
    British and justice.


  • #44
    Choochtown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    getzls wrote: »
    Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

    I know that sounds strange.
    IRA. And truth.


    There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever about Gerry Conlon's innocence.

    What is strange is the number of times the IRA have been mentioned in this thread as Gerry Conlon was not a member of this organisation. Again there is no doubt whatsoever about this fact.


  • #45
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    egghead. wrote: »
    Is this thread about ira atrocities?

    Never pass up the opportunity.
    They're just saying there was no conviction of the actual perperators despite an admission by them.
    gold_bricker wrote: »
    true but lets not pretend that our own police force don,t ( at times ) stand back while innocent people are convicted of crimes
    Who's pretending this? Just because the police force of another jurisdiction is being criticised doesn't mean it's inherently being said therefore that the police here are totally fine.


  • #46
    pO1Neil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 354 ✭✭pO1Neil


    getzls wrote: »
    Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

    I know that sounds strange.
    IRA. And truth.

    They did come clean about it in 1976. Joe O'Connell admitted it was the first bombing his ASU carried out in England several times.


  • #47
    pO1Neil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 354 ✭✭pO1Neil


    Knock Off Nigel wrote: »
    The British government agencies and armed forces have far more blood on their hands and will never be brought to justice.

    I know that sounds strange.
    British and justice.

    They have the blood on their hands of the 33 people murdered & over 300 maimed in the Dublin and Monaghan bombs that's for sure, which happened 40 years ago last month. And nobody was even questioned about it ffs! an absolute national & international disgrace.


  • #48
    getzls
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    pO1Neil wrote: »
    They have the blood on their hands of the 33 people murdered & over 300 maimed in the Dublin and Monaghan bombs that's for sure, which happened 40 years ago last month. And nobody was even questioned about it ffs! an absolute national & international disgrace.
    And there is no absolute proof of that.
    Same as Joe O'Connell's guilt of the Guildford murders.

    The IRA were quite, no very happy, to let Gerry Conlon stew in jail.


  • #49
    Yellowblackbird
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Yellowblackbird


    Kneemos is innocent.


    Free Kneemos


  • #50
    pO1Neil
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 354 ✭✭pO1Neil


    getzls wrote: »
    And there is no absolute proof of that.
    Same as Joe O'Connell's guilt of the Guildford murders.

    The IRA were quite, no very happy, to let Gerry Conlon stew in jail.

    There was no synchronized bomb attack ever carried out like this by Loyalists before & there never was since. The bombs were constructed so well that 100% of each bomb exploded upon detonation. So that tells us that either it was not the UVF or the UVF went from being amateurs to being the worlds leading bomb experts over night.

    By your lazy replies I'm guessing you haven't looked at the facts of this war crime or you just don't want to know about it, same with Guildford.


  • #51
    stimpson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,707 ✭✭✭stimpson


    What's wrong with you AH? The man is barely cold and you've turned an RIP thread into a political football. There is a whole forum for that bull****.

    RIP Gerry

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0WLCJ26Emc


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  • #52
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    stimpson wrote: »
    What's wrong with you AH? The man is barely cold and you've turned an RIP thread into a political football.
    To be fair, it's not AH - it's only getzls and one or two people who are taking their bait, which I agree they shouldn't. More to the point though, getzls shouldn't be baiting in the first place. But some folks just can't resist when it comes to anything even dubiously linked to republicanism.


  • #53
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    A man of incredible dignity and honour who fought to clear his name and exposed the British establishment and the 'Justice' it meted out to the Irish. RIP Gerry.


  • #54
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,585 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    kneemos wrote: »
    Is the guy not entitled to an opinion misguided or not.The place is full of different viewpoints.
    little troll wasn't expressing an opinion as little troll is factually wrong

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #55
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,585 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    getzls wrote: »
    Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

    I know that sounds strange.
    IRA. And truth.
    only to those who have unquestioning belief of the justice system and police that they would never do wrong, these men were innocent

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #56
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Gerry's greatest only crime was being Irish in the wrong place at the right time.

    RIP


  • #57
    end of the road
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,585 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    getzls wrote: »
    there is no absolute proof of that.

    there is, it will never be public though, the british government know what really happened.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • #58
    getzls
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 806 ✭✭✭getzls


    end of the road wrote: »
    only to those who have unquestioning belief of the justice system and police that they would never do wrong, these men were innocent
    And i never said they were not.

    I wonder if he had be unjustly jailed for say, rape, for 15 years would people be
    mourning him on here?

    Doubt it.


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,735 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RIP Gerry.


  • #60
    jca
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,539 ✭✭✭jca


    pO1Neil wrote: »
    So sad he was such a nice guy & didn't seem bitter at all to me which is pretty amazing considering what happened to him & his father.

    Seriously the people who prosecuted the Guildford four & Maguire seven must have been on cloud cuckoo land. "Evill Aunt Annie makes bombs in her bomb factory all day long with her children one of whom is a 13yr old kid" Unbelievably fu*ked up.

    They made that fatal mistake of believing their own propaganda.


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  • #61
    Shakespeare's Sister
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    getzls wrote: »
    I wonder if he had be unjustly jailed for say, rape, for 15 years would people be
    mourning him on here?

    Doubt it.
    Wow.
    And speak for yourself with your "Doubt it".

    If he was convicted of rape, always protested his innocence, and then his name was cleared... yes people would be mourning him. Just because you're gutted that he was in the right and the police/judiciary were in the wrong and made themselves look appalling, no point in resorting to that particular tripe.
    It's staggering that you're trying to find a problem with people mourning him. And clearly because he was from the nationalist community.


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