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Gerry Conlon has died

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭Tramps Like Us


    Gerry Conlon spent a lot of time in recent years working on the case of the Craigavon Two, two men jailed for a murder they did not commit and were stitched up for

    You can read more about the case and campaign here:

    http://justiceforthecraigavontwo.com/


    The best tribute you can make to Gerry is to continue his work against injustices like what he and now the craigavon two are suffering. Sadly the cases of the Guildford Four etc were not unique and similar things happen today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,569 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    RIP Gerry Conlon, thankfully he didn't die in a prison cell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    getzls wrote: »
    And i never said they were not.

    I wonder if he had be unjustly jailed for say, rape, for 15 years would people be
    mourning him on here?

    Doubt it.

    Do you think he would have received the same media attention if he was (wrongly) jailed for rape:confused:

    They were accused of killing five people ffs, 4 soldiers and a civilian. The.British public were even suggesting they should be hung.

    Stupidest. post. ever!

    Knuckle dragging season is just beginning. Go erect an arch for your glorious twelfth or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    I feel sorry for normal unionists being let down by such numbskullery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    Do you think he would have received the same media attention if he was (wrongly) jailed for rape:confused:

    They were accused of killing five people ffs, 4 soldiers and a civilian. The.British public were even suggesting they should be hung.

    Stupidest. post. ever!

    Knuckle dragging season is just beginning. Go erect an arch for your glorious twelfth or something.

    The trial judge lamented that they had not been tried for treason as he was denied the opportunity to give the death sentence. Fckin disgrace.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    The only thing that should be said in this thread is RIP

    RIP Gerry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭Fiolina


    Gerry Conlon spent a lot of time in recent years working on the case of the Craigavon Two, two men jailed for a murder they did not commit and were stitched up for

    You can read more about the case and campaign here:

    http://justiceforthecraigavontwo.com/


    The best tribute you can make to Gerry is to continue his work against injustices like what he and now the craigavon two are suffering. Sadly the cases of the Guildford Four etc were not unique and similar things happen today

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/MOJO-The-Miscarriages-of-Justice-Organisation/98677679249?fref=ts

    For anyone interested, the above link (if it works) shows the kind of cases Gerry got involved in. Paddy Joe Hill, one of the Birmingham Six is also a part of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    Saw a documentary about that organisation around the time of this man's conviction being quashed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3697544.stm

    Paddy Hill featured in the documentary a lot. Poor man - extremely broken person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 623 ✭✭✭Fiolina


    Magaggie wrote: »
    Saw a documentary about that organisation around the time of this man's conviction being quashed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3697544.stm

    Paddy Hill featured in the documentary a lot. Poor man - extremely broken person.

    That's exactly how I'd describe him, broken. He never reconciled properly with his family after his release. So terribly sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,083 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    RIP Gerry

    He and his family went through an experience most of us will never be able to come close to comprehending. He spent his youth wasting away in a prison for a crime he didn't commit, his father spent the last years of his life wasting away for a crime he didn't commit. He campaigned for others, a decent skin caught in the wrong place, at the wrong time, being the wrong nationality.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    anto9 wrote: »
    Maybe he was a supporter of the IRA at the time ?.If he was he deserves what he got ,and more .

    You have to wonder are some people just on a windup.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    wazky wrote: »
    You have to wonder are some people just on a windup.

    Anto9 and his location been in Thailand i'd hazard a guess of him being a **** troll


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,871 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    little troll wasn't expressing an opinion as little troll is factually wrong

    Maybe the poster got him mixed up with Paul Hill ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭on the river


    anto9 wrote: »
    Maybe he was a supporter of the IRA at the time ?.If he was he deserves what he got ,and more .

    Is that what you believe or what you want to believe


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    anto9 wrote: »
    Maybe he was a supporter of the IRA at the time ?.If he was he deserves what he got ,and more .

    Don't feed it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,555 ✭✭✭Ave Sodalis


    The trial judge lamented that they had not been tried for treason as he was denied the opportunity to give the death sentence. Fckin disgrace.

    It really is times like these that I'm particularly glad we don't have the death penalty.

    RIP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭onlyme!


    On the daily mail uk site, lots of rip messages are being red ticked on the article regarding gerry's death, so it looks like some british still believe gerry was guilty, why else the hatred?
    unbelievable!

    RIP Gerry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    onlyme! wrote: »
    On the daily mail uk site, lots of rip messages are being red ticked on the article regarding gerry's death, so it looks like some british still believe gerry was guilty, why else the hatred?
    unbelievable!

    RIP Gerry!

    Some Irish think so too. Idiots though .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 258 ✭✭krazyklown


    So sad - its frightening the lengths the establishment went to hide the truth. Even now, the case files are locked away under the secrets act for 45 years which denied him the opportunity to pursue those who essentially fabricated his involvement in a heinous crime. It suggests that knowledge of his innocence went a long way up the chain. He was effectively denied the opportunity of getting closure for what must have been a horrific period of his life and i think this had a big affect on his life post release.

    This doesnt preclude sympathy for all victims of the violence and the day to day impact it has had on their lives. But there is a marked difference in that this crime was committed and abetted by the state of which he technically was a citizen and not by an illegal, terrorist organisation unanswerable to anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,486 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Chucken wrote: »
    Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.

    What?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 275 ✭✭Colinf1212


    onlyme! wrote: »
    On the daily mail uk site, lots of rip messages are being red ticked on the article regarding gerry's death, so it looks like some british still believe gerry was guilty, why else the hatred?
    unbelievable!

    RIP Gerry!

    It's the Dailymail....

    Besides most of the comments are green arrowed by a ratio of 2:1.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭onlyme!


    Colinf1212 wrote: »
    It's the Dailymail....

    Besides most of the comments are green arrowed by a ratio of 2:1.

    yes i know! thats still a hell of a lot of people, proportion wise!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,634 ✭✭✭feargale


    FWVT wrote: »
    There's no smoke without fire

    What a fine, erudite exposition of basic principles of justice, from the Chimneysweep School of Jurisprudence. It has had many adherents, including Stalin, Mao, Franco, the Spanish Inquisition and Ivor Starbrook.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,598 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    wazky wrote: »
    You have to wonder are some people just on a windup.
    yes, little trolls a trolling, pathetic isn't it

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,289 ✭✭✭tfitzgerald


    I hope he had finally found some peace. R I P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭Shakespeare's Sister


    What?
    It's the Irish for RIP, as you probably know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭scuba8


    Hope Gerry is at peace now. What he was put through was shameful. I cannot imagine how he could cope with being jailed for something he did not do. The British Police that fabricated evidence against him are a disgrace and should be jailed themselves.

    Having said that spare me the crocodile tears of Adams on the telly tonight and the rest of the shinners. They could have spared Gerry the horror of his 15 year incarceration by the real bombers coming forward and taking responsibility for the bombing. It would have saved all of those wrongly convicted for the Guilford and Birmingham bombings the horror of being in jail for all that time. When they could have had them released they did not give a fcuk about them. The IRA left them to rot for 15 years and did nothing to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 115 ✭✭Knock Off Nigel


    3 weeks after he was cleared Lord Lane, England's Lord Chief Justice said that the Guildford 4 and the Maguire 7 should have being hanged even though they were probably innocent to protect the image of the British judicial system.

    Absolute evil scum.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    [QUOTE=scuba8;90946358Having said that spare me the crocodile tears of Adams on the telly tonight and the rest of the shinners. They could have spared Gerry the horror of his 15 year incarceration by the real bombers coming forward and taking responsibility for the bombing. It would have saved all of the Birmingham6 and the Guilford7 the horror of being in jail for all that time. When they could have had them released they did not give a fcuk about them. The IRA left them to rot for 15 years and did nothing to help.[/QUOTE]

    In February 1977, during the trial of the Balcombe Street ASU, the four IRA men instructed their lawyers to "draw attention to the fact that four totally innocent people were serving massive sentences", referring to the Guildford Four.[5] Despite claims to the police that they were responsible[5] they were never charged with these offences, and the Guildford Four remained in prison for another twelve years.

    I am old enough to remember when there was active protests and campaigns to highlight the innocence of the Birmingham six,Guildford four and the maguire family, and the complete silence and indifference of the majority of the Irish goverment and media was shamefull.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭scuba8


    realies wrote: »
    In February 1977, during the trial of the Balcombe Street ASU, the four IRA men instructed their lawyers to "draw attention to the fact that four totally innocent people were serving massive sentences", referring to the Guildford Four.[5] Despite claims to the police that they were responsible[5] they were never charged with these offences, and the Guildford Four remained in prison for another twelve years.

    I am old enough to remember when there was active protests and campaigns to highlight the innocence of the Birmingham six,Guildford four and the maguire family and the complete silence and indifference of the majority of the Irish goverment and media was shamefull.

    Did they actually produce evidence that they had committed the bombing or did they just say that they did it. Did they make written statements confessing their guilt. That was what was required. They could have done that much.
    By the way who were the bombers?


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