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Gerry Conlon has died

Tipsy McSwagger

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/0621/625499-gerry-conlon/

Gerry Conlon, the Belfast man who was wrongly jailed for an IRA bombing, has died.

Mr Conlan, who was 60, had been ill for some time.

He died this morning at his home off the Falls Road in west Belfast.

The Guildford Four - Gerry Conlon, Paul Hill, Carole Richardson and Paddy Armstrong - were jailed for life in 1975 for an IRA bombing campaign that killed five people and injured 65.

Gerry's father, Giuseppe, was jailed later that year. He had one lung, and emphysema and had just undergone chemotherapy. He died in prison five years later.

The Guildford Four were freed in 1989.

Finally, 16 years after their release, then British Prime Minister Tony Blair apologised for the miscarriage of justice.

RIP

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Knock Off Nigel

RIP Mr Conlon, this man was put through unimaginable torture all because he was an Irish man in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Lapin

pO1Neil wrote: »

The Balcombe Street gang admitted it was the first bombing they did.

I know. But we can't mention that here according to some tetchy people.

egghead. wrote: »

Is this thread about ira atrocities?

Never pass up the opportunity.

Wishiwasa Littlebitaller

kneemos wrote: »

Is the guy not entitled to an opinion misguided or not.The place is full of different viewpoints.

People are only "entitled" to have informed opinions and especially so when discussing the recently deceased.

Fr. Ned

R.I.P Gerry Conlon.

The British judiciary should be ashamed.

Shakespeare's Sister

Lapin wrote: »

This didn't take long.

DO NOT FEED.

I opened the thread thinking "At least nobody would be socio enough to make whataboutery comments to this thread" - ah well, my foolishness.
And of course there can ****ing be "smoke without fire".

kneemos wrote: »

Is the guy not entitled to an opinion misguided or not.The place is full of different viewpoints.

Yeh that's true - I think it's fair that they post a detailed analysis of their outlook rather than a one-liner that just looks like being inflammatory for the sake of it. I look forward to reading this analysis.

Fiolina

In a statement issued through his lawyer Gareth Peirce, Mr Conlon's family said: "He brought life, love, intelligence, wit and strength to our family through its darkest hours.
"He helped us to survive what we were not meant to survive.
"We recognise that what he achieved by fighting for justice for us had a far, far greater importance - it forced the world's closed eyes to be opened to injustice; it forced unimaginable wickedness to be acknowledged; we believe it changed the course of history.
"We thank him for his life and we thank all his many friends for their love."

kneemos

Magaggie wrote: »

I opened the thread thinking "At least nobody would be socio enough to make whataboutery comments to this thread" - ah well, my foolishness.
And of course there can ****ing be "smoke without fire".

Yeh that's true - I think it's fair that they post a detailed analysis of their outlook rather than a one-liner that just looks like being inflammatory for the sake of it. I look forward to reading this analysis.

He can't now can he?

Shakespeare's Sister

kneemos wrote: »

He can't now can he?

They're not forum-banned - I'm sure if they write this analysis, the moderators will be ok with it and realise they weren't trying to inflame, oh no.

[Deleted User]

Mod

kneemos banned, move on please.

pO1Neil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEV9zQill6Y

What a great, great guy, just wish he had a few more years left in him, guess it wasn't to be.

getzls

Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

I know that sounds strange.
IRA. And truth.

Knock Off Nigel

getzls wrote: »

Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

I know that sounds strange.
IRA. And truth.

The British government agencies and armed forces have far more blood on their hands and will never be brought to justice.

I know that sounds strange.
British and justice.

Choochtown

getzls wrote: »

Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

I know that sounds strange.
IRA. And truth.

There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever about Gerry Conlon's innocence.

What is strange is the number of times the IRA have been mentioned in this thread as Gerry Conlon was not a member of this organisation. Again there is no doubt whatsoever about this fact.

Shakespeare's Sister

egghead. wrote: »

Is this thread about ira atrocities?

Never pass up the opportunity.

They're just saying there was no conviction of the actual perperators despite an admission by them.

gold_bricker wrote: »

true but lets not pretend that our own police force don,t ( at times ) stand back while innocent people are convicted of crimes

Who's pretending this? Just because the police force of another jurisdiction is being criticised doesn't mean it's inherently being said therefore that the police here are totally fine.

pO1Neil

getzls wrote: »

Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

I know that sounds strange.
IRA. And truth.

They did come clean about it in 1976. Joe O'Connell admitted it was the first bombing his ASU carried out in England several times.

pO1Neil

Knock Off Nigel wrote: »

The British government agencies and armed forces have far more blood on their hands and will never be brought to justice.

I know that sounds strange.
British and justice.

They have the blood on their hands of the 33 people murdered & over 300 maimed in the Dublin and Monaghan bombs that's for sure, which happened 40 years ago last month. And nobody was even questioned about it ffs! an absolute national & international disgrace.

getzls

pO1Neil wrote: »

They have the blood on their hands of the 33 people murdered & over 300 maimed in the Dublin and Monaghan bombs that's for sure, which happened 40 years ago last month. And nobody was even questioned about it ffs! an absolute national & international disgrace.

And there is no absolute proof of that.
Same as Joe O'Connell's guilt of the Guildford murders.

The IRA were quite, no very happy, to let Gerry Conlon stew in jail.

Yellowblackbird

Kneemos is innocent.

Free Kneemos

pO1Neil

getzls wrote: »

And there is no absolute proof of that.
Same as Joe O'Connell's guilt of the Guildford murders.

The IRA were quite, no very happy, to let Gerry Conlon stew in jail.

There was no synchronized bomb attack ever carried out like this by Loyalists before & there never was since. The bombs were constructed so well that 100% of each bomb exploded upon detonation. So that tells us that either it was not the UVF or the UVF went from being amateurs to being the worlds leading bomb experts over night.

By your lazy replies I'm guessing you haven't looked at the facts of this war crime or you just don't want to know about it, same with Guildford.

stimpson

What's wrong with you AH? The man is barely cold and you've turned an RIP thread into a political football. There is a whole forum for that bull****.

RIP Gerry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0WLCJ26Emc

Shakespeare's Sister

stimpson wrote: »

What's wrong with you AH? The man is barely cold and you've turned an RIP thread into a political football.

To be fair, it's not AH - it's only getzls and one or two people who are taking their bait, which I agree they shouldn't. More to the point though, getzls shouldn't be baiting in the first place. But some folks just can't resist when it comes to anything even dubiously linked to republicanism.

Son Of A Vidic

A man of incredible dignity and honour who fought to clear his name and exposed the British establishment and the 'Justice' it meted out to the Irish. RIP Gerry.

end of the road

kneemos wrote: »

Is the guy not entitled to an opinion misguided or not.The place is full of different viewpoints.

little troll wasn't expressing an opinion as little troll is factually wrong

end of the road

getzls wrote: »

Until the IRA come out with the truth about these attacks there will always be doubts of their guilt or innocence to some.

I know that sounds strange.
IRA. And truth.

only to those who have unquestioning belief of the justice system and police that they would never do wrong, these men were innocent

Banjo String

Gerry's greatest only crime was being Irish in the wrong place at the right time.

RIP

end of the road

getzls wrote: »

there is no absolute proof of that.

there is, it will never be public though, the british government know what really happened.

getzls

end of the road wrote: »

only to those who have unquestioning belief of the justice system and police that they would never do wrong, these men were innocent

And i never said they were not.

I wonder if he had be unjustly jailed for say, rape, for 15 years would people be
mourning him on here?

Doubt it.

[Deleted User]

RIP Gerry.

jca

pO1Neil wrote: »

So sad he was such a nice guy & didn't seem bitter at all to me which is pretty amazing considering what happened to him & his father.

Seriously the people who prosecuted the Guildford four & Maguire seven must have been on cloud cuckoo land. "Evill Aunt Annie makes bombs in her bomb factory all day long with her children one of whom is a 13yr old kid" Unbelievably fu*ked up.

They made that fatal mistake of believing their own propaganda.

Shakespeare's Sister

getzls wrote: »

I wonder if he had be unjustly jailed for say, rape, for 15 years would people be
mourning him on here?

Doubt it.

Wow.
And speak for yourself with your "Doubt it".

If he was convicted of rape, always protested his innocence, and then his name was cleared... yes people would be mourning him. Just because you're gutted that he was in the right and the police/judiciary were in the wrong and made themselves look appalling, no point in resorting to that particular tripe.
It's staggering that you're trying to find a problem with people mourning him. And clearly because he was from the nationalist community.