Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

adox · 09-04-2014 09:12PM

Your Airbag wrote: »

Geoff with a few tough questions here

What was said?

n32 · 09-04-2014 09:13PM

Hard to believe that De Gea hardly had a serious save to make over the 2 legs. Normally watching United my heart is in my mouth when the opposition attack but over the 2 legs I ve never been as relaxed. Bayern slaughtered us with possession but we kept them from making too many clear cut chances. They only started carving us up when we started chasing the game in the last 15 minutes.

xtal191 · 09-04-2014 09:14PM

Moyes on injured Rooney: "I felt at times tonight he was having a struggle striking the ball (cleanly) but he's such a vital player for us'

No balls to take off Rooney. Disgraceful stuff!

IamtheWalrus · 09-04-2014 09:16PM

Football is depressing sometimes. I suppose I've had it great for so many years I can hardly complain.

user2011 · 09-04-2014 09:16PM

MD1990 wrote: »

i was expecting him to get hold of the ball & try to find Welbeck.
& at least hit the target when a chance arose.He didn't work as hard as Welbeck either.He showed why Ferguson dropped him last year tbh.

God job MD1990 :rolleyes:

bucketybuck · 09-04-2014 09:16PM

Bombleswizzum wrote: »

Carrick was plop, especially in the first half. Got caught on the ball at least five times.

In my opinion he is to blame for the killer 3rd goal. Robben is running across the line of defense so they are all wary of touching him and giving a penalty, what was needed was the midfielder to drop in and crowd out the run. Carrick is supposed to have this holding role that absolves him of all creative responsibility so where was he? Jogging back along with Rooney and watching it happen, thats where he was.

redbaron_99 · 09-04-2014 09:17PM

What we need:

RB - Rafeal is too injury prone
CB -Losing Vida and Rio
LB - Evra has narcolepsy

2 CM - Carrick is like a mannequin, Fletcher isn't up to it.

Probably need another midfielder who can play both flanks - Valencia is a one trick pony (played well tonight though), young not good enough.

Don't care who you want in as manager, or if you want Moyes to stay, the team was neglected for far too long.
We're payin the price now.

sigmundv · 09-04-2014 09:17PM

I must say that Bayern were underwhelming over the two legs. It's alright having 70% possession, but they don't have it in dangerous areas. I would like to see Atlético meet them in the semi.

Dozyart · 09-04-2014 09:17PM

He is a player that has the ability to produce a moment of magic in a game,damn right you leave him on!!

irishfeen · 09-04-2014 09:17PM

Proud of the team tonight - we went down fighting and Rooney could easily have really made things very very interesting... these are the current CL winners and runaway BL champions and those predicting a cricket score before the two legs were thankfully proved very wrong.

MagicMarker · 09-04-2014 09:17PM

xtal191 wrote: »

No balls to take off Rooney. Disgraceful stuff!

Take him off for who? Young? Giggs?

It's not like we had Mata, Kagawa or Nani on the bench, and we'd already brought on Chico and Januzaj.

dubmick · 09-04-2014 09:18PM

sick of Bayern, they've knocked us out 3 times since 1999 and that is twice that Robben has done us.

FortuneChip · 09-04-2014 09:18PM

Phil Jones is becoming a quality player.
One of many to get tired out there tonight, but he put in two great shifts against a player that was at one stage expected to win the Ballon d'Or.
Whatever about Robben squandering possession, Ribery was blocked out by Jones. Really good performance.
I thought Fletcher played decent as well, and Smalling.

Carrick was very poor, Rooney was dreadful in both legs.

Evra's goal was the diamond in his own rough. Offers a lot going forward, but is lax as anything defending.

Timmyctc · 09-04-2014 09:19PM

MD1990 wrote: »

i was expecting him to get hold of the ball & try to find Welbeck.
& at least hit the target when a chance arose.He didn't work as hard as Welbeck either.He showed why Ferguson dropped him last year tbh.

Rooney was a great player last year as evidenced by some of his best performances in the biggest games. (City away springs to mind) Fergie and he had a very public falling out. Literally everyone knows about this. Rooney was going to leave the club until Fergie left. You know this, of that I'm sure. Either try harder or give up please.

Lord TSC · 09-04-2014 09:19PM

MagicMarker wrote: »

Take him off for who? Young? Giggs?

It's not like we had Mata, Kagawa or Nani on the bench, and we'd already brought on Chico and Januzaj.

Chico should have been on for Rooney.

Welbeck - Kagawa - Valencia
Hernandez

Welbeck shouldn't have been the one to come off...

thelad95 · 09-04-2014 09:19PM

2moreMinutes wrote: »

The debt is irrelevant when talking about how they have apparently done nothing but leech the club since they came.

I would reckon it's the kernel of the issue. As much as I hate plastic clubs like Chelsea, Man City, Monaco, PSG etc. Man United will need oil money to keep up within the next decade. The 200million warchest we keep hearing about will be a once off whereas other clubs will continue to outspend us. We're going nowhere fast under the Glazers

redbaron_99 · 09-04-2014 09:20PM

By the way, I cannot stand Ribery. Did anyone else see him trying to get his mate Evra sent off?

nullzero · 09-04-2014 09:20PM

dubmick wrote: »

sick of Bayern, they've knocked us out 3 times since 1999 and that is twice that Robben has done us.

Have to say I hate Arjen Robben. Horrible little man. Absolutely classless. I remember him laughing at the irish side after a friendly a few years ago. Horrible little sh1t

EDIT; Robben laughed at Ireland whilst being interviewed by irish TV after the game.

Son Of A Vidic · 09-04-2014 09:20PM

n32 wrote: »

Very disappointed over all but we have nothing to be ashamed of. It was all going to plan until we scored! We had limited them to nothing and were rock solid at the back. Evras goal shook Bayern into action and once we went behind we hadnt the legs to get back into it.

Despite his wonder goal Evra cost us big time. What possessed him for the 2nd goal I ll never know. He gave Robben so much time and space, all he had to do was pick his man with the cross. Fletcher and Carrick tried manfully but dont have the engine for this level anymore. Rooney was woefully out of sorts . Cant blame Moyes for starting him but he just couldnt function properly. He tried all night but the injury affected him too much.

Vidic,Smalling and Jones were outstanding. No blame to any of them , they were superb. Glad to see Vidic bowing out on a good performance. Valencia looked back to his old self. He is an absolute machine when he gets going. Welbeck played a fine game again, constant threat. The most important thing tonight was Kagawa proving that he can do it in the big games for 90 minutes. Hopefully he has convinced Moyes he is worth keeping.

We went down fighting at least unlike some of our pathetic league displays. Sad to think we ll never see Vidic in the CL for United again.

I agree with all of that, well said.

adox · 09-04-2014 09:21PM

redbaron_99 wrote: »

By the way, I cannot stand Ribery. Did anyone else see him trying to get his mate Evra sent off?

And his elbow gesture to the ref to help get Vidic booked.

redbaron_99 · 09-04-2014 09:21PM

thelad95 wrote: »

I would reckon it's the kernel of the issue. As much as I hate plastic clubs like Chelsea, Man City, Monaco, PSG etc. Man United will need oil money to keep up within the next decade. The 200million warchest we keep hearing about will be a once off whereas other clubs will continue to outspend us. We're going nowhere fast under the Glazers

United are in a fantastic financial position, to be fair, and I'm no fan of the Glazers. The problem is getting the club to spend it on bringing the players in that we need.

xtal191 · 09-04-2014 09:21PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Ah now you're clutching at straws picking that apart. We're losing Rio, Vida, (Nani, Young presumeably) Anderson, Evra, Giggs, Carrick is too old, RvP is constantly injured and Zaha looks set to stay away on loan. If that doesn't require rebuilding then please submit your CV to United xoxo

Th squad is easily good enough for top four and its a disgrace that they're 7th in the league. The squad is not as bad as Moyes has them playing.

Timmyctc · 09-04-2014 09:22PM

xtal191 wrote: »

No balls to take off Rooney. Disgraceful stuff!

Its like you're reading what he said. Then doing some sort of Junior Cert poetry interpretation of what the subtext of the Author's(Moyes) childhood was like. He said Rooney is a vital player, in a vital game, he left him on. Who would you have replaced him with? I think we had Rio on the bench? Ben Amos? Maybe Lindagard.

redbaron_99 · 09-04-2014 09:22PM

adox wrote: »

And his elbow gesture to the ref to help get Vidic booked.

Yep, we can add that to the list.

Maximus Alexander · 09-04-2014 09:23PM

I feel so sad.

xtal191 · 09-04-2014 09:24PM

Timmyctc wrote: »

Its like you're reading what he said. Then doing some sort of Junior Cert poetry interpretation of what the subtext of the Author's(Moyes) childhood was like. He said Rooney is a vital player, in a vital game, he left him on. Who would you have replaced him with? I think we had Rio on the bench? Ben Amos? Maybe Lindagard.

As someone said already they could have taken Rooney off instead of Welbeck

John Cherry · 09-04-2014 09:24PM

We do have a brutal record against the big sides in the knock out stages.

Timmyctc · 09-04-2014 09:24PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Th squad is easily good enough for top four and its a disgrace that they're 7th in the league. The squad is not as bad as Moyes has them playing.

Thats 100% true. Our league form has been abysmal and is unforgivable. But thats not what we're talking about. Moyes is saying the team needs to rebuild next year. Which is true? So I don't understand where your issue lies?

Lord TSC · 09-04-2014 09:24PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Th squad is easily good enough for top four and its a disgrace that they're 7th in the league. The squad is not as bad as Moyes has them playing.

Sadly, Moyes' legacy will be how easily he managed to sap all confidence out of the fans, and all fear out of our opponents.

redbaron_99 · 09-04-2014 09:25PM

xtal191 wrote: »

Th squad is easily good enough for top four and its a disgrace that they're 7th in the league. The squad is not as bad as Moyes has them playing.

It's the remnants of the great side that won so much over the years. All the big names are there, but so many of them are past it.
I've played football my entire life, albeit at a much lower level, and let me tell you, if one or two players aren't putting in a proper shift, the team suffers badly. If three or four players aren't doing it, the whole team falls to pieces.

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