Manchester United Superthread 2014 Mod warning Post #1880 #2613

Some of you might know that I've been emphatically in favour of keeping the manager before now.

And taken in isolation I can take the fact that Liverpool beat us. Same as they did with the 4-1. I can take that City beat us. Same as they did with the 6-1. But looking at the whole situation, the entire season so far and where we're likely to be in short term future only points to one thing man.

I only saw second half as was away with my kid but I've never been so passive watching United concede goals as I was tonight. I was resigned to it before it even happened.

As much as I want David Moyes to succeed it is only because he is manager of my team. I support Manchester United, and want them to be successful. The lack of fight, desire, passion whatever you want to call it is inexcusable. Yes the players have to take their portion of the blame, but everything that is wrong with United at the minute points to one man to be honest.

I shudder to think what Munich are going to do to us. They are scary good, and we are worryingly bad.

The fact is now that I don't trust David Moyes to be manager of my team.

I've changed my mind and I want him gone.

Just watching the highlights of Everton running riot at St.James' Park. They are all playing such positive football. It's like they have been freed of a curse and we are now plagued by it.

Imagine the football we would be playing with Roberto Martinez.

aspire to the level of city. Manchester United. Jebus wept.

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

Just watching the highlights of Everton running riot at St.James' Park. They are all playing such positive football. It's like they have been freed of a curse and we are now plagued by it.

Imagine the football we would be playing with Roberto Martinez.

That's a bit unfair, you're comparing Moyes to a manager who was won a trophy, plays an attractive, positive game, good with the media and has away won at Anfield, the Emirates and Old Trafford :eek:

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Why you think its going to all sunshine and lollipops when Bayern hammer us?

Nobody expects us to beat Bayern so Moyes cant be blamed..

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Watch Southampton even.

Watched them against Liverpool. They were very good no way were they 3-0 worse off.

and yet here we are..........

Oooh man I'd love Pochettino. Or Solskjaer. I would actually give Gary Neville a crack before continuing with Moyes.

I don't understand why the board are letting what appears to be pride get in the way of making the decision the club needs. The last managerial recommendation that Sir Alex Ferguson made was for Aston Villa to appoint Alex McLeish and he damn near took that club to the brink. Fergie got it wrong, lets admit that and move on. The longer we leave it the more damage will be done. The fans are turning, how long until the players do too?

At the moment, we're like an ould lad when he gets sick. "No, I don't need the doctor, it'll sort itself out and I'll be grand." It might sort it self out, but it might not, and if it doesn't you're (we're) dead.

spiralism wrote: »

See, this is the sort of arrogant ignorance of clubs on the continent i hate and always criticise. Ajax are a huge club, they may not be on our level commercially or in terms of fans but they have four european cups, gave the world players such as Cruyff, Van Basten, Rijkaard, Kluivert, Ibrahimovic, Suarez, Sneijder, Van Der Sar, Davids, De Boer amongst others..It was they who innovated total football and the tiki taka passing game that lives on some forty years later. Ajax are a huge club and certainly not dwarfed by us, simply because they and their league do not have the money to compete with the big guns in europe does not belittle their achievements and place as an elite club in europe.

Also, on that front, De Boer has won all around him at Ajax. Three titles in three years with a fourth likely on the way and a probable double? While losing key players every year and consistently bringing youth through while playing attractive football? They would have been in the knockout stages of the champions league this year as well and receiving more plaudits only for Balotelli cheating them out of it.

I don't doubt they have a great history, but most Ajax fans are not demanding being the best in Europe. That's the difference.
When players move to mediocre teams overseas, it's accepted.
Nobody thought anything odd when players like Vertongen and Christian Eriksen move to the 5th best team in England without CL football.

There is also an acceptance that de Boer will move on too. When he says in interviews that he'd like to manage in England one day, no Ajax fan begrudges him.

Expectations of United fans are higher. Moyes can soend 67 milion, or 100 million or whatever, but more is demanded. Hence I think the Ajax job is not necessarily a guarantee somebody is suited to the United job.

In that case Martin Jol should have been a huge success at Fulham.

keeponhurling wrote: »

In that case Martin Jol should have been a huge success at Fulham.

Jol wasn't a success at Ajax ,he won the Dutch cup and resigned the following season.Big difference between what he did/achieved and De Boer is doing now.

Headshot wrote: »

It all adds to the sacking at the end of the season

Wouldn't it be nice if we didn't have to beggar ourselves just to get rid of an incompetent member of staff!

Winter is Coming

we could get wenger lol
he,s in big trouble with le arse the are 6 points above everton.and everton have a game in hand and le arse play then everton.
if the get knocked out of the fa cup and lose out on 4th,can wenger still remain in charge?,approaching 10 years now with not even a cup.
yet folk very rarely want hes head on the block and media etc.