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New York Jets Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    phatkev wrote: »
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/03/10/jets-cut-santonio-holmes/

    so Santonio got released today, I have feeling no one will be that upset over this news!
    the cut will save the Jets around 8 million


    Whilst I wad down on Cro being released I'm over the moon this chap is gone. It all went downhill at the end of the 2011 Season in Miami.
    Again gave us some fantastic moments

    Many people will talk about that amazing clutch playoff catch in Foxboro against the Patriots but for me his OT Catch and Go TD against the Browns is mine. It was around that time we went through some really close wins against Houston, Detroit & Cleveland and he was the difference maker in them games.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,630 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I know he was dislikeable and all, but what are we going to do now in his wake?

    We now have no useful QB; no useful TE or WR; a couple of okay backs. That's a lot of work imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Silver-Tiger


    FreeOSCAR wrote: »
    Whilst I wad down on Cro being released I'm over the moon this chap is gone. It all went downhill at the end of the 2011 Season in Miami.
    Again gave us some fantastic moments

    Many people will talk about that amazing clutch playoff catch in Foxboro against the Patriots but for me his OT Catch and Go TD against the Browns is mine. It was around that time we went through some really close wins against Houston, Detroit & Cleveland and he was the difference maker in them games.


    :(

    That was one of those what if moments.

    What if Chansi Stuckey had of just stepped out of fcuking bounds. Instead of fumbling. We kick the field goal and beat the Saints, Patriots and Jets in 3 weeks on the spin.

    Mangenius and Ryan and Colt McCoy lead the Browns to the playoffs. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    LuckyLloyd wrote: »
    I know he was dislikeable and all, but what are we going to do now in his wake?

    We now have no useful QB; no useful TE or WR; a couple of okay backs. That's a lot of work imo.

    I'm still glad he's gone but your right, unless we strike gold in the draft we will be lacking at one position or another.

    There is talk of so many WR's going in the first round that some of them are bound to be busts - Really hope we don't end up being that team.

    By Mid May going into Mini Camp I think our skill positions will looks like this.

    QB
    1./2. Geno / FA QB (Schaub or Vick)
    3. Simms & Late Round Draft QB


    RB
    1.Ivory
    2.Powell
    3.Goodson / Draft RB

    WR
    1. Draft WR (1st Round) What would it cost to move up and take Sammy?
    2. FA WR (Would love Golden Tate here)
    3. Kerley
    4. Nelson
    5. Hill/Gates/XXX (All Battling it out for that 5th Roster Spot)

    TE
    1. Jeff Cumberland
    2. FA TE (Chandler or Pettigrew)
    3. Reuland / Pantale / Sudfeld


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,630 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    I think they should make a move for Shaub or Vick by the way. This is a make or break season for Rex Ryan and he should get the best QB available looking at purely week one as the consideration.

    But the roster is a bit of a disaster right now and there isn't enough cap room to properly fix all of it. I have no clue what they are going to do really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    I see ye couldn't agree to a deal with Austin Howard & he will test free agency. Massive blow if he departs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    its a bit siht alright, and if a team is willing to give him around 9 million, congratulations to him, but im glad the jets aren't giving him that type of cash


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    phatkev wrote: »
    its a bit siht alright, and if a team is willing to give him around 9 million, congratulations to him, but im glad the jets aren't giving him that type of cash

    Agreed - He's supposedly visiting with the Raiders so let them throw silly money at him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭franglan


    FreeOSCAR wrote: »
    Agreed - He's supposedly visiting with the Raiders so let them throw silly money at him.

    They have silly money to spend too. When is Sanchez getting cut then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    franglan wrote: »
    They have silly money to spend too. When is Sanchez getting cut then?

    There isn't too much of a rush to cut Sanchez - He's due some Roster in money in about 2 weeks or so. I think Idzik is waiting first till we get his replacement in before he's let go.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    So Howard signed with the Raiders in a deal wrought about 6M a year, but with 15M guaranteed which is an awful lot of money to be tied up in a RT. But you can't blame Austin Howard. He was a practice squad player and he finally had a shot at a big contract. He deserves it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Eric Decker to visit the Jets, please please don't overpay him. Former Seahawks OL Breno Giacomini due to visit today aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    phatkev wrote: »
    Eric Decker to visit the Jets, please please don't overpay him. Former Seahawks OL Breno Giacomini due to visit today aswell

    I think 7-8 Million a year would be ok over 4 years with some agreements that we can cut him short like Tone if it hasn't worked out after year 2.

    Cornerback is worrying right now. I think Revis being released and Talib signing that ridiculous contract in Denver has changed the market.

    Outside of Revis (who I'd be over the moon if he returned) we can realistically only be after DRC and bringing back Cro. Outside of that I'm not a fan of any of the other FA Corners out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    I think Captain Munnerlyn would be another CB the Jets should look at.

    the ridiculous amounts Davis, Verner and Talib got paid yesterday mean that Revis is going to demand an absolute mountain of cash and i cant see Idzik entertaining the idea of giving it to him(But it would be some class if we got him back). As long as he doesnt end up at the Pats!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    McCown gone to Bucs. Cant believe we going to end up with Vick. A broken down interception machine and definitely not mentor material. Rich Cimini has one article on ESPN about the dangers of signing players with character concerns and another urging the Jets to sign Vick! Maybe we end up keeping Sanchez due to no other viable options.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    McCown gone to Bucs. Cant believe we going to end up with Vick. A broken down interception machine and definitely not mentor material. Rich Cimini has one article on ESPN about the dangers of signing players with character concerns and another urging the Jets to sign Vick! Maybe we end up keeping Sanchez due to no other viable options.

    Jason Campbell?? i dont think Sanchez would be the worst backup to have on a lot less money though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭corner back 2


    Would prefer anyone to Vick. No problem with Sanchez staying on reduced terms but rumour is Seattle interested. I fear Vick would lead to media circus and have major unsettling affect on Geno.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    yeah I rather not see him the Jets colors to be honest, but he is always going to be linked with them when Mornhinweg is the OC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    So while the big news of last night was Revis heading to New England, John Idzik was quietly working away and signed both RT Giacomini and WR Eric Decker. I was ver wary of the jets signing DEcker because of the money he wanted. But the contract details are Decker receiving a 5 year contract for 36.25 million dollars with 15 million guaranteed. Considering what many anticipated him receiving on the open market, his production, age and the current state of the Jets wide receivers…that is an excellent contract by Idzik. I guess there is some reason to be excited about Decker considering Jets gave 1,996 snaps to Stephen Hill/David Nelson/Holmes/Salas/Gates last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    Good thing the bins are going out today in my Area. Should I put the Revis Jersey in the Green one or the normal? :)

    In all seriousness - It's awful he's with the evil empire now but at least we didn't lose some bidding war. Patriots @ Jets for the opening SNF game - Please make it happen scheduling committee.

    Giancomini is a solid pickup - Only worry is that he missed a good few games last year, hopefully Oday Aboushi shows he can contribute this year to our depth.

    Eric Decker for $7mil a year with 15 guaranteed is good buisness. Read an article on GGN which made a very good point. If Decker wasn't a white WR the media would be foaming at the mouth over him.

    http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/3/12/5500006/why-youre-racist-a-few-thoughts-on-eric-decker


    Also say hello to his missus Jessie James ;)

    jessie-james-4_raannt1-767x1024.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    FreeOSCAR wrote: »
    Good thing the bins are going out today in my Area. Should I put the Revis Jersey in the Green one or the normal? :)

    In all seriousness - It's awful he's with the evil empire now but at least we didn't lose some bidding war. Patriots @ Jets for the opening SNF game - Please make it happen scheduling committee.

    Hey look on the bright side we've got a 100% record against teams that Revis was on!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    so Sanchez has been cut. I think the front office screwed him over a little bit by not cutting him earlier but they obviously thought they could get something for him. hard to say where he'll end now the Pete Carroll connection could see him end up with the Seahawks or the Browns maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    Vick has just signed, dont know how to feel about this one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Danger_dave1


    phatkev wrote: »
    Vick has just signed, dont know how to feel about this one

    I think it will be an open competition at camp and i think Geno needs that .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    I think it will be an open competition at camp and i think Geno needs that .

    Absolutely, my worry would be that Vick becomes the day 1 starter which would be a step in the wrong direction imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    phatkev wrote: »
    Vick has just signed, dont know how to feel about this one

    Not something you will hear very often but ye'd have been better off with Mark Sanchez. Vick is an injury prone, turnover prone, washed up QB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,638 ✭✭✭phatkev


    HigginsJ wrote: »
    . Vick is an injury prone, turnover prone, washed up QB

    But he's still an upgrade on Sanchez


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭franglan


    phatkev wrote: »
    But he's still an upgrade on Sanchez

    Vick has had one 16 game season since being drafted so Geno will see action either way. I was pissed the night the jets drafted Geno, think the jets will be looking for another QB this time next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    phatkev wrote: »
    But he's still an upgrade on Sanchez

    He really isn't, Sanchez is obviously very poor but no where near as bad as Vick at this point


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭franglan


    How hard did they try and get Schaub, he would have been an upgrade on anything the Jets had this past year.


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