Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

JustShon · 15-11-2013 07:44PM

Hey folks, I have a question, well a request for advice really, wasn't sure if I should start a new thread or just post in here, since this is the SF discussion thread.

Anyway: It's about doing combos after getting focus crumple on my opponent. I've often seen players do, for example, standing heavy kick into shoryu as ken after getting a focus crumple but whenever I use a normal on an opponent when they're crumpled I just get an air-reset like if I'd hit them out of the airborne frames of a backdash.

So what am I doing wrong?

Kanped · 15-11-2013 07:47PM

If it's set to 15 frames, couldn't you kinda OS a safe meaty or something and keep using the same setups?

Even given what we know so far, I was planning on using a new character and treating this like a completely new game, anyway. I'll probably scrub out and go back to Honda by week 2 but... well, that's the plan, anyway.

TheMikenyan · 15-11-2013 07:58PM

JustShon wrote: »

Hey folks, I have a question, well a request for advice really, wasn't sure if I should start a new thread or just post in here, since this is the SF discussion thread.

Anyway: It's about doing combos after getting focus crumple on my opponent. I've often seen players do, for example, standing heavy kick into shoryu as ken after getting a focus crumple but whenever I use a normal on an opponent when they're crumpled I just get an air-reset like if I'd hit them out of the airborne frames of a backdash.

So what am I doing wrong?

Dash forward after the crumple, and then combo as usual. Otherwise it will reset as soon as you hit them.

JustShon · 15-11-2013 08:07PM

TheMikenyan wrote: »

Dash forward after the crumple, and then combo as usual. Otherwise it will reset as soon as you hit them.

Thanks man

Scavenger XIII · 15-11-2013 08:41PM

Yreval wrote: »

Poison U2 confirmed.

ladnopoka · 15-11-2013 09:12PM

lol more wake up options for bison

TheMikenyan · 15-11-2013 09:15PM

Scavenger XIII wrote: »

Poison U2 confirmed.

Mechanically, I'm assuming that it'll either be a counter stance or a command grab.

Super will probably be her Shinryuken knock-off from FF Revenge.

Doctor DooM · 15-11-2013 10:51PM

• Producers felt attackers had too much advantage in previous versions. They've given defensive players more tools now.

That sounds too good to be true, Zhi...

Nutrient · 16-11-2013 01:24AM

Will Street fighter become bogged down by more mechanics and/or willvetoed delayed wake ups by charge characters make the game last forever!?

Stay tuned to USF4:

Edition!

Sairus · 16-11-2013 11:50AM

Woo. Loctests next week.
Gonna be an expensive weekend.

If there's anything in particular anyone wants me to try, let me know.

K.O.Kiki · 16-11-2013 01:11PM

Sairus wrote: »

Woo. Loctests next week.
Gonna be an expensive weekend.

If there's anything in particular anyone wants me to try, let me know.

Rose impressions please.

Since you left, Fergus, Cobelcog & myself have started using her seriously. Would be good to know how she got buffed.

Sairus · 16-11-2013 01:42PM

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Rose impressions please.

Since you left, Fergus, Cobelcog & myself have started using her seriously. Would be good to know how she got buffed.

It takes three players to begin to fill the void I left in the Irish FGC, and even then the requests for my opinions of the character roll in.

Doyler01 · 16-11-2013 04:25PM

Every system change so far sounds great for rose imo.

OdgeXD · 16-11-2013 05:45PM

Cool

Dreddybajs · 16-11-2013 06:05PM

Wow that's crazy.

Misty Chaos · 17-11-2013 01:38PM

Sairus wrote: »

Woo. Loctests next week.
Gonna be an expensive weekend.

If there's anything in particular anyone wants me to try, let me know.

One of the more popular requests for Juri was increasing the size of the hitbox for U2. Could you see if you this is true and what possibilities this opens up ( ie, is the timing for Ex Dive Kick > U2 still super strict or the like. )

JustShon · 17-11-2013 02:59PM

Misty Chaos wrote: »

One of the more popular requests for Juri was increasing the size of the hitbox for U2. Could you see if you this is true and what possibilities this opens up ( ie, is the timing for Ex Dive Kick > U2 still super strict or the like. )

I second this.

Danonino. · 17-11-2013 04:31PM

This whole 'make defensive play more powerfull' has me worried. Downback is already Guys worst nightmare. Vs guy pick Ryu or any shoto really and hold down back, mash mk to stuff pretty much everything, run overhead, forward mp overhead, crossups, jumpins bar HK and elbow drop. Then just anti air and throw tech as you watch target combo whiff on your hitbox and smile as your 3 frame dp stops any attempt at wakeup pressure. Winner is you.

grumble whinge grumble

Sairus · 18-11-2013 06:58AM

Misty Chaos wrote: »

One of the more popular requests for Juri was increasing the size of the hitbox for U2. Could you see if you this is true and what possibilities this opens up ( ie, is the timing for Ex Dive Kick > U2 still super strict or the like. )

I'll give it a gawk, but testing Ultras is pretty awkward when you're on an arcade cab playing against actual other people and each attempt costs 1 euro :P

Also, re: proximity block OS, it apparently works with charge motions.

Doctor DooM · 18-11-2013 10:00AM

No Sairus, I am expecting a full run down of all Guile's changes, starting with a run down of all his normals, plz.

FutureGuy · 18-11-2013 10:32AM

Looking forward to seeing how DeeJay fares in Ultra.

Delayed wake up for all?

Super swell! Farewell vortex.

C0unter · 18-11-2013 11:08AM

Doctor DooM · 18-11-2013 11:12AM

Looking forward to this getting a week 1 patch in Ultra. lol

The Hound · 18-11-2013 01:04PM

Omg no patch plz

F Sim anyway. Like they can complain about the mu even with this new tech

Scavenger XIII · 18-11-2013 03:39PM

I'd be interested to hear anything new for Rose and Juri.

Not sure what to expect for Rose, Juri still has a host of issues like U2s funky-ass hitbox and dropouts on multihitters like EX divekick and EX pinwheel. All of those things have been unchanged since super though, so I'm not too optimistic for changes.

The Hound · 22-11-2013 02:59AM

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/nov/21/e-honda-has-invincible-command-throw-sagat-u1-connects-fully-corner-and-more-reports-usf4-changes-coming-first-japan-loc-test/

Makoto...

MelficeVKM · 22-11-2013 05:39AM

Abel cl.hp hitbox expanded
Juri st.lp hitbox expanded, 5f cr.mk

yessssss

Pity about yun nerfs but I agree with command grab range being too large lol
I like a lot of the changes, although wish they would give Ibuki something to compensate for delayed wakeup and her nerfed kunai

Sairus · 22-11-2013 06:05AM

Man, Rose is sick. Damage buffs on her best normals, extended lp spiral range, reduced startup on loads of stuff..

Mainly using Poison right now. She's totally different from SFxT. Her super is a double DP sort of like Dudly. Ultras are her SFxT fireball and a command grab. Grab does obscene damage.

I've been taking a lot of notes and I'll write em up properly when I get home.

Doctor DooM · 22-11-2013 06:47AM

Waitasecond. If Guile's U1 is now 5 frames that means I can hit confirm light punches into it? Surely not?

Standing hard punch is 5 frames and that's pretty easy to do.

Interested to see how good the autocorrect on it is too.

Still the Japs have historically always missed loads about Guile in loctests, hope that's the case.

Also Deejay looks rough...

Doctor DooM · 22-11-2013 06:52AM

More Japanese tranlastions in for Guile:

increased throw range and airthrow range

increased throw range and airthrow range

increased throw range and airthrow range

Sorry, I'm just going to have a little lie down.

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