Pylons

paulbok · 13-11-2013 06:12PM

SV wrote: »

Don't mind them at all, anyway, pylons can be amazing looking..if they wanted them to be
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kxPG6y8Qctk/TJj54ZCcVjI/AAAAAAAAgJs/jCzalKCwl9U/s800/Giant+Pylon+Men+-+Land+of+Giants+(2).jpg

Can you imagine hundreds of these in YMCA poses across the mountains?

Cantona's Collars · 13-11-2013 06:18PM

paulbok wrote: »

Can you imagine hundreds of these in YMCA poses across the mountains?

They could have them holding hurleys down in Tipp,that'd keep them happy.I bet if Michael Lowry told the masses down there that the pylons are going up he'd be hailed a hero (again)

darkpagandeath · 13-11-2013 06:19PM

zerks wrote: »

Big hulabaloo down my way over pylons aswell which are planned to run from Campile to Dublin.Getting bombarded lately with flyers,facebook updates from anti-pylon groups.Personally I don't care,it's not as if they're going up in people's gardens.

They are needed as the country consumes more & more electricity but as usual the scaremongering wins out over common sense.
Reminds me of the time the local radio station interviewed some nimby busybody who campaigned against a mobile phone mast on a hill (which was nowhere near her place) near Oulart.The interviewer ended the chat by asking was she in contact with the radio station via a mobile,of course she was.

Wherever there's progress in this country we have nimby's,one of the biggest housing estates in the town here is still waiting for eFibre due to one of these clowns.

Remember mobiles giving you cancer ? and all that nonsense most people would not be able to live without there IPhone and so on now

Cantona's Collars · 13-11-2013 06:22PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Remember mobiles giving you cancer ? and all that nonsense most people would not be able to live without there IPhone and so on now

That was her argument and all the while using one herself,some people object just for the sake of it.Isn't there some eejit in Galway who does it constantly,waits for a new road or whatever to be announced & immediately lodges an objection.Doesn't matter if it's at the far side of the country.

Fr_Dougal · 13-11-2013 06:35PM

These pylons aren't going anywhere near me so why should other people have a problem with them?

darkpagandeath · 13-11-2013 06:53PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

These pylons aren't going anywhere near me so why should other people have a problem with them?

Just like there over 500m away from the people complaining about them there no were near them. 500m is just under half a mile away..

Links234 · 13-11-2013 07:00PM

zerks wrote: »

That was her argument and all the while using one herself,some people object just for the sake of it.Isn't there some eejit in Galway who does it constantly,waits for a new road or whatever to be announced & immediately lodges an objection.Doesn't matter if it's at the far side of the country.

I think I know who you're on about

people in this country can be such unbelievable objectors and whingers

SV · 13-11-2013 07:07PM

paulbok wrote: »

Can you imagine hundreds of these in YMCA poses across the mountains?

I can dream

kneemos · 13-11-2013 07:09PM

They are unslightly things in fairness if you have to look out the window at one,even half a mile away.
Value of your property would probably suffer as well I'd imagine.

darkpagandeath · 13-11-2013 07:35PM

kneemos wrote: »

They are unslightly things in fairness if you have to look out the window at one,even half a mile away.
Value of your property would probably suffer as well I'd imagine.

Ah ok so a house in the country is worth more if it has no access to running hot/cold water sewerage electricity roads then ? you get added value from all the fly tipping and destroyed Boggs from turf cutting in the vicinity ?

kneemos · 13-11-2013 07:43PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Ah ok so a house in the country is worth more if it has no access to running hot/cold water sewerage electricity roads then ? you get added value from all the fly tipping and destroyed Boggs from turf cutting in the vicinity ?

Just sayin.
If the pylons are running from south Wexford. Dublin I don't know how they can avoid coming close to properties at some stage,but I don't know the details just seen a few anti posters about.

darkpagandeath · 13-11-2013 07:46PM

kneemos wrote: »

Just sayin.
If the pylons are running from south Wexford. Dublin I don't know how they can avoid coming close to properties at some stage,but I don't know the details just seen a few anti posters about.

Exactly there not putting them next to peoples houses on purpose there trying to do it in the most cost effective way. Imagine it was the other way around and the closest access to power was over 500m away ? pretty sure there would be outrage about no access to electricity. Imagine you lived in Africa somewhere with no power and they put power in with pylons would you be complaining then ? I'm sorry to tell you your house in the country is never going to be worth half a million Euros them days are gone.

Grayson · 13-11-2013 07:58PM

Cienciano wrote: »

Have to laugh at this one. If the massive tourist industry in South Tipp and Carlow is "destroyed", it's not by pylons.

I was in achill years ago and saw a protest against mobile phone masts. They were putting them up and people were complaining that it would destroy the sceenery.
I don't think those mobile phone masts have stopped any tourists.

kneemos · 13-11-2013 07:59PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Exactly there not putting them next to peoples houses on purpose there trying to do it in the most cost effective way. Imagine it was the other way around and the closest access to power was over 500m away ? pretty sure there would be outrage about no access to electricity. Imagine you lived in Africa somewhere with no power and they put power in with pylons would you be complaining then ? I'm sorry to tell you your house in the country is never going to be worth half a million Euros them days are gone.

All I'm saying is people have legitimate reasons for protest.
Granted we need the infrastructure but some will be left with the eyesores.
Don't have a house in the country sadly.

darkpagandeath · 13-11-2013 08:04PM

kneemos wrote: »

All I'm saying is people have legitimate reasons for protest.
Granted we need the infrastructure but some will be left with the eyesores.
Don't have a house in the country sadly.

So your house in the middle of a scenic area is not an eyesore just the pylons ?

Fr_Dougal · 13-11-2013 08:08PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Just like there over 500m away from the people complaining about them there no were near them. 500m is just under half a mile away..

Yeah adults can be so boooooring sometimes.

mud_guard · 13-11-2013 08:11PM

zerks wrote: »

That was her argument and all the while using one herself,some people object just for the sake of it.Isn't there some eejit in Galway who does it constantly,waits for a new road or whatever to be announced & immediately lodges an objection.Doesn't matter if it's at the far side of the country.

those kind of folk tend to have pretty uneventful lives and getting riled up about whatever latest happening visits their area , is what motivates them to get up in the morning

I see it in my own locality , same faces are always up in arms over infrastructural projects , the same people expect a state of the art hospital , secondary school , international airport etc , within spitting distance

funny enough , if the compensation was forthcoming , they,d tend to forget about being worried about cancer pretty quick , I suspect this might be whats happening here , anywhere their are farmers , their is a hunger for money

Fred Swanson · 13-11-2013 08:11PM

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kneemos · 13-11-2013 08:12PM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So your house in the middle of a scenic area is not an eyesore just the pylons ?

In a scenic area the house is an eyesore as well but a pylon is making matters a lot worse.
I'm agreeing that the pylons are needed but they're not without cost.

almighty1 · 20-11-2013 09:46AM

Discussed on primetime last night. Eirgrid CEO was put in his place quite a few times.

Eirgrid won't entertain the idea of putting high voltage lines underground although its becoming the standard in Europe (especially Denmark, Holland and Germany)

Eirgrid said themselves that the cost comparison is that underground is 3 times more expensive however thats purely construction cost,it doesn't take into account

- Lower costs of maintenance because lack of weathering
- Devaluation of peoples property and subsequent lowering of property tax
- Impact upon the tourism sector
- Impact upon peoples health (tentative links between EMF and leukemia and other cancers)
- Impact upon wildlife

lucylu · 20-11-2013 09:53AM

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Just like there over 500m away from the people complaining about them there no were near them. 500m is just under half a mile away..

These plyons can be 50m close to you house.. try selling your house then.

Sir Humphrey Appleby · 20-11-2013 09:55AM

MadsL wrote: »

Oh my god. The ground...we can dig it up and lay cables in it. What sorcery is this???

Yeah great idea, its three times more expensive with no real benefits!:rolleyes:

Guy:Incognito · 20-11-2013 09:58AM

almighty1 wrote: »

- Impact upon peoples health (tentative links between EMF and leukemia and other cancers)

Got to love how people fear their health from a big bad pylon a couple of hundred feet up but bury the cable under a few feet of dirt and the issue is sorted. Out of sight out of mind eh?

almighty1 · 20-11-2013 10:00AM

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

Yeah great idea, its three times more expensive with no real benefits!:rolleyes:

Read my post above and I detail just some of the benefits

20-11-2013 10:02AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Got to love how people fear their health from a big bad pylon a couple of hundred feet up but bury the cable under a few feet of dirt and the issue is sorted. Out of sight out of mind eh?

Soil absorbs cancer, didn't you know that?

R P McMurphy · 20-11-2013 10:04AM

Why can they not run them down along the side of the m1

almighty1 · 20-11-2013 10:07AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Got to love how people fear their health from a big bad pylon a couple of hundred feet up but bury the cable under a few feet of dirt and the issue is sorted. Out of sight out of mind eh?

You should really have some idea about what you talk about before you make such statements.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/545086.stm

People living and working near high voltage electricity cables may face a greater danger of getting cancer than those who do not, controversial research has concluded.

After completing 2,000 experiments near pylons, a team from the University of Bristol has concluded the cables are responsible for trebling the amount of cancer-carrying pollutants in the air.

20-11-2013 10:08AM

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Why can they not run them down along the side of the m1

The non-presence of the M1 in the areas where the pylons are needed is probably a factor.

kneemos · 20-11-2013 10:09AM

Putting a pylon 50m from someone's house is a bit criminal in fairness.

zl1whqvjs75cdy · 20-11-2013 10:13AM

I see almighty has arrived to spout his pseudo science again. I thought we agreed in the previous thread that the "studies" you so love to quote are completely statistically invalid and not worth the paper they are written on. But sure don't let that stand in your way of a good rant.

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