Pylons

Cienciano

BattleCorp wrote: »

It's all well and good saying things like that but would you like a pylon built next to your house?

You go on about wanting services but would you have a landfill site next to your house, or a sewage treatment plant over your back fence?

Have you ever stood under an electricity pylon. There's a fair ould buzz coming from them. I wonder are there any health implications for being so close to such a strong electrical field?

There's a difference between a pylon and a landfill/sewage plant. Sewage and landfill smell terrible. Drive down to dublin docks, it would make you wretch the smell is so bad.
There's nothing nagative proven about pylons other than people don't like the look of them.

fits

They are also very noisy! And very domineering. Do people have any comprehension of a 43 metre pylon? They're the ones that cross the m7 near kilcullen. People have genuine concerns about them and should be listened to.

hansfrei

Bah Feckin Humbug! wrote: »

The field may actually be stronger in that you are closer to it, cable at 95m high is further away from you than a cable 10 m underground. Burying the cable does nothing to lessen the EMF.

I dont understand the problem either. Trying to educate myself by reading about it now.

Wouldn't sheilding the trunks work? In the same way network cables get sheilded?

fits

Www.saveourheartland.com has lots of photos of the landscape they are proposing to bring the lines through in Carlow. Very near st Mullins monastery from 7th century as well as many other archaeological sites. Crossing a protected area for critically endangered freshwater pearl mussel. Runs close to historic village of borris and designed landscape of borris house.

I have no property there and I live in Finland. If they had a fraction of those features in one area here it would be a national park.

kneemos

Cienciano wrote: »

There's a difference between a pylon and a landfill/sewage plant. Sewage and landfill smell terrible. Drive down to dublin docks, it would make you wretch the smell is so bad.
There's nothing nagative proven about pylons other than people don't like the look of them.

The look of them is probably the main concern.
They'll make your house severely devalued or unsellable.Also they don't do a lot for the scenery.

hansfrei

fits wrote: »

Www.saveourheartland.com has lots of photos of the landscape they are proposing to bring the lines through in Carlow. Very near st Mullins monastery from 7th century as well as many other archaeological sites. Crossing a protected area for critically endangered freshwater pearl mussel. Runs close to historic village of borris and designed landscape of borris house.

I have no property there and I live in Finland. If they had a fraction of those features in one area here it would be a national park.

Borris, Offaly? They should plant one near Cowens house, or preferably on his face. Stick a wind turbine up his arse while they're at it.

fits

hansfrei wrote: »

Borris, Offaly? .

... Borris, south co. Carlow.

darkpagandeath

So hang on then .. putting them a couple of feet underground is these peoples fix ? Sure a few feet of dirt and some shielding you believe is a safety feature will stop this evil magnetic field. I'm not sure does our planet not generate a massive magnetic field already ? Do these people have their TV's, any cabling (that carries electricity), microwaves, mobile phone buried underground too ? What happened to them people in the country moaning about mobile phone (death tower’s) bay stations ? don't these people now complain there is no signal or internet access in some areas now ? And maybe just maybe try looking up information on what the buzz actually is ... And no no it’s not some kind of tesla death ray.

Frank Black

fits wrote: »

People have genuine concerns about them and should be listened to.

Yes, and then laughed at, given a boot up the arse and told to **** off back to the 19th century.

BattleCorp

Frank Black wrote: »

Yes, and then laughed at, given a boot up the arse and told to **** off back to the 19th century.

Hang on a minute. Have you got a pylon outside your front door?

Do you honestly think that you wouldn't mind if there was a huge pylon buzzing away outside your front door, you wouldn't give a sh1te?

darkpagandeath

kneemos wrote: »

There's no danger from EMF it's the dust particles they attract apparently.

Do they think the ceramic insulator's are made of asbestos ?

darkpagandeath

BattleCorp wrote: »

Hang on a minute. Have you got a pylon outside your front door?

Do you honestly think that you wouldn't mind if there was a huge pylon buzzing away outside your front door, you wouldn't give a sh1te?

No one does that's why we have planning law's

zl1whqvjs75cdy

BattleCorp wrote: »

Hang on a minute. Have you got a pylon outside your front door?

Do you honestly think that you wouldn't mind if there was a huge pylon buzzing away outside your front door, you wouldn't give a sh1te?

I actually do and I don't give a ****e. And it doesn't buzz.

BattleCorp

John Creamy Revenge wrote: »

I actually do and I don't give a ****e. And it doesn't buzz.

Just because you don't give a sh1te, that doesn't mean that everyone shouldn't give a sh1te.

I wouldn't want a pylon beside my house and I'm perfectly entitled to that opinion.

lucylu

darkpagandeath wrote: »

No one does that's why we have planning law's

As this is a semi state body Eirgrid are bypassing all planning Laws and going straight to an Bord pleanala. They are taking submissions now from the public. As these planning applications are not going to county councils for Planning, so officially you cannot object.
Eirgrid are offering a one off payment of approx. 22k Per pylon. If you say No , Eirgrid will take you to court.

fits

darkpagandeath wrote: »

No one does that's why we have planning law's

electric infrastructure is not subject to the normal planning process. Plans go straight to an bord pleanala. Guess who the new chairman of eirgrid is? Former chairman of an bord pleanala.

fits

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

I actually do and I don't give a ****e. And it doesn't buzz.

what voltage?

CB19Kevo

I cant understand why cables are not put down alongside roadways,You could have continuous access or access by manhole's every 100 metres. Cant see how maintenance would become more costly as it would make for far easier access plus would be less of an eyesore.

Having these cables running along fields in the middle of nowhere is strange really.

darkpagandeath

fits wrote: »

electric infrastructure is not subject to the normal planning process. Plans go straight to an bord pleanala. Guess who the new chairman of eirgrid is? Former chairman of an bord pleanala.

So this guy knows about the planning laws then does he not ? better having someone in there that knows what there doing rather than someone that does not . And there is a reason they go straight to planning you would never get any infra structure laid down anywhere as everyone moans. But there are still process to go through and best practice and laws

CB19Kevo wrote: »

I cant understand why cables are not put down alongside roadways,You could have continuous access or access by manhole's every 100 metres. Cant see how maintenance would become more costly as it would make for far easier access plus would be less of an eyesore.

Having these cables running along fields in the middle of nowhere is strange really.

Probably making the whole thing much longer going out of your way to put it on the side of the motorway. I'm guess there would be even more pylons then even if you put some of it down the side of the Motorway.

jack presley

lucylu wrote: »

As this is a semi state body Eirgrid are bypassing all planning Laws and going straight to an Bord pleanala.

It's called the Strategic Infrastructure Act. They aren't bypassing any laws.

Frank Black

BattleCorp wrote: »

Hang on a minute. Have you got a pylon outside your front door?

Do you honestly think that you wouldn't mind if there was a huge pylon buzzing away outside your front door, you wouldn't give a sh1te?

Nope and none of these whingers will end up with Pylons outside their front door either.
Talk about Drama Queen.

fits

darkpagandeath wrote: »

So this guy knows about the planning laws then does he not ? better having someone in there that knows what there doing rather than someone that does not .

. I know you are determined to disagree but do you not see the massive conflict of interest?

Probably making the whole thing much longer going out of your way to put it on the side of the motorway. I'm guess there would be even more pylons then even if you put some of it down the side of the Motorway.

. They can't go as the crow flies anyway. It has to avoid populated area, national parks, high amenity areas.
Infrastructure corridors such as on continent would make a lot of sense.

darkpagandeath

fits wrote: »

. I know you are determined to disagree but do you not see the massive conflict of interest?


. They can't go as the crow flies anyway. It has to avoid populated area, national parks, high amenity areas.
Infrastructure corridors such as on continent would make a lot of sense.

they guy has not worked for the government for years has he not ? don't see how it's a conflict of interests.. that only works if he still works for the government

If only we could build these in places were hardly anyone lives ... like on the continent

the_syco

almighty1 wrote: »

Burying removes the visual implications of pylons, potential airborne health hazards, devaluation of property etc.

Do you have a nice shiny link for this?

fits wrote: »

Infrastructure corridors such as on continent would make a lot of sense.

A lot of motorways go very near residential areas.

zarquon

almighty1 wrote: »

Haha brilliant .... that's like comparing a Fiat Seincento to an Airbus A380.

WOW, really! You clearly have no idea about electromagnetic fields or magnetic flux density therefore your rebuttal consists of irrational metaphor with no bearing on real science as a means to justify your use of certain EMF sources that you desire and to reject those you don't want.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

BattleCorp wrote: »

Just because you don't give a sh1te, that doesn't mean that everyone shouldn't give a sh1te.

I wouldn't want a pylon beside my house and I'm perfectly entitled to that opinion.

You asked above would the poster give a ****e about the pylon outside their house. I answered the question. No need to get snippy. And the poster who asked about the voltage I don't have a breeze, any way I could find out?

Cienciano

almighty1 wrote: »

Burying removes the visual implications of pylons, potential airborne health hazards, devaluation of property etc.

Eirgrid are not entertaining the idea of undergrounding any of their Gridlink projects at all. Although they have undergrounded a 40km route in Meath. I don't know the exact details which regards to distance from house.

Any link to that?

fits

donkeyoaty0099 wrote: »

You asked above would the poster give a ****e about the pylon outside their house. I answered the question. No need to get snippy. And the poster who asked about the voltage I don't have a breeze, any way I could find out?

what does the pylon look like? There aren't many existing 400 kv lines. If its about 20 metres high its probably a 110 or 220 kv line.

zl1whqvjs75cdy

I'd say its taller than 20 meters anyway.

fits

Pdf map of network
http://www.eirgrid.com/media/All-IslandTransmissionMap.pdf